It appears that Sessions will open a Federal investigation.....GOOD! Such investigation should be out of the hands of Local Cops (Charlottesville is an undeclared sanctuary city full of leftist assholes) and State police under Gov McAwful who will whitewash any investigation.

Hopefully this is the incident that is needed for a RICO investigation into ANTIFA and BLM who started this violence, apparently the "alt right" had a PERMIT TO DEMONSTRATE granted by the city....the ANTIFA punks DID NOT.

Charlottesville is within Driving distance, we quit going to the restruants there last summer, too many marxists. People in the Real Virginia are real pissed about this, no one wants to see UVA campus turn into Berkley and that's what is happening here. Don;t forget Timmy Boy Kaine's scumbag son is a member of ANTIFA.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 09:19:45 AM
It appears that Sessions will open a Federal investigation.....GOOD! Such investigation should be out of the hands of Local Cops (Charlottesville is an undeclared sanctuary city full of leftist assholes) and State police under Gov McAwful who will whitewash any investigation.

Hopefully this is the incident that is needed for a RICO investigation into ANTIFA and BLM who started this violence, apparently the "alt right" had a PERMIT TO DEMONSTRATE granted by the city....the ANTIFA punks DID NOT.

Charlottesville is within Driving distance, we quit going to the restruants there last summer, too many marxists. People in the Real Virginia are real pissed about this, no one wants to see UVA campus turn into Berkley and that's what is happening here. Don;t forget Timmy Boy Kaine's scumbag son is a member of ANTIFA.

Corner Restaurant is the only place I'll get anything to eat, the chef salad is loaded with meat - a real treat.  Has everything the Arts & Croissant crowd loathes, namely MEAT.  The rest of them, including the fast food chains, the staff, for the most part aren't fit to man a car wash.   These kids are just radical enough, if they found out I support Trump in -any- way, they'd alter the food - God only knows what they'll do to it... and then wear their firing/jail time as a badge of honor.  Yes, they are *that* crazy in Charlottesville.   

It would not come as a surprise to find out a BLM or ANTIFA person shot at that police helicopter - just another thing they'd be awfully proud of.

I hope you're right about Sessions, and the possibility of RICO to bear - just follow the money, and I bet it'll lead to Darth Soros, again.

Quote from: Hoofer on August 13, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
Corner Restaurant is the only place I'll get anything to eat, the chef salad is loaded with meat - a real treat.  Has everything the Arts & Croissant crowd loathes, namely MEAT.  The rest of them, including the fast food chains, the staff, for the most part aren't fit to man a car wash.   These kids are just radical enough, if they found out I support Trump in -any- way, they'd alter the food - God only knows what they'll do to it... and then wear their firing/jail time as a badge of honor.  Yes, they are *that* crazy in Charlottesville.   

It would not come as a surprise to find out a BLM or ANTIFA person shot at that police helicopter - just another thing they'd be awfully proud of.

I hope you're right about Sessions, and the possibility of RICO to bear - just follow the money, and I bet it'll lead to Darth Soros, again.

I strongly suspect Kaine is behind this ANTIFA AMBUSH hoping to goad people into fighting back....which they did until cooler heads hustled them out of the area. Don't forget Timmy boys little rat faced son is a big time organizer with these loons.  It will be interesting to see if he was there yesterday.  He's already been arrested out of State for riot related activity.

Quote from: mrclose on August 13, 2017, 01:14:16 PM
This is the guy leading the effort to have General Lee's statue removed from the park in Charlottesville

Homophobic, sexist, anti-white language abundant in Charlottesville vice mayor's tweets



http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2016/11/wes-bellamy-charlottesville-twitter


https://www.amren.com/features/2016/12/wes-bellamy-anti-white-racism-jason-kessler/

So it was an Antifa commie scum bastard.

Quote from: Solar on August 13, 2017, 03:43:12 PM
So it was an Antifa commie scum bastard.

I told you it was a planned ambush.....Mark my words this will lead back to Kaine.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 03:54:28 PM

I told you it was a planned ambush.....Mark my words this will lead back to Kaine.

My bad, it looks like the guy was a white nationalist.

Quote from: Solar on August 13, 2017, 04:19:11 PM

I'm changing the title to Commies attack peaceful marchers over Confederate statue.

I used their title to expose the truth knowing the left would search to see what we're saying.

You know this will only change the title in the OP, it will not change anything after that.  Unless some one quotes the OP.

Quote from: walkstall on August 13, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
You know this will only change the title in the OP, it will not change anything after that.  Unless some one quotes the OP.

Yeah, it wasn't for our sakes, but those using search engines in hopes of finding out the truth.
And by changing the header for reply..

Quote from: Solar on August 13, 2017, 04:19:11 PM
My bad, it looks like the guy was a white nationalist.

Time will tell the real story.

I figure it's one of a few things'

a.)The guy is a lone Nut case

b.)Was somehow provoked, had his car surrounded by screaming ANTIFA loons and panicked or lashed out.

c.)Some sort of beef against ANTIFA or someone in that crowd personally
   

Apparently the "White Nationalists" had a LEGAL permit to hold their March or Rally, over the proposed removal of Robert E Lee's statue, That would make them legit, even if they are KKK or Nazi skinheads. Now here is where it gets interesting, when ANTIFA showed up (WITHOUT a Permit) and started their crap that is when the City officials decided to REVOKE the "white's" permit.....the cops actually pushed the "whites" into the mob of ANTIFA's and that is when the fights broke out.

JUst a side note, in all the hundreds of protests between pro and anti's I was involved in during my career in Washington DC,THE POLICE NEVER DO THAT, you erect either a physical barrier like a snow fence or stand police in a line separating the groups. If you cancel the permits, you cancel ALL PERMITS and dispurse the groups AWAY from each other and assign either plainclothes men or marked units to monitor the path of retreat to make sure one side doesn't follow the other to cause trouble.

Another side note it is against FEDERAL LAW to cross state lines to engage in a riot....not to protest. ANyone from out of state of the "Whites" would have been protected under the auspices of a LEGAL PERMIT, while any Leftist coming from out of State (Like Tim Kaine's son in Wisconsin) would be in VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2101

This car ramming occurred after the "Whites" were supposedly dispursed, that's why I say this guy who is from Ohio, lost, not sure of a way out of their might have got "caught" by a bunch of these ANTIFA who were intent on dragging him out of the car and whipping his ass, so he decided to hit the accelerator.

And an "Investigator" would have to look at all angles of this entire incident. That is why I say there is a greater chance for charges against ANFIFA and BLM as a whole rather than "White nationalists" unless of course they try to spin the car ramming incident into a planned conspiracy.....ala Trump and Russia.

There were a lot of cases of assault against non involved parties or bystanders..... apparently some ANTIFA punk hit a female reporter and other local newscasters were pelted with debris by Leftist loons.

That leaves the POlice helicopter crash....supposedly the Pilot flew into a tree....rumors persist he was shot. The leftist crowd later cheered and started the "Fk the Police chant of BLM". upon learning of such

Good op-ed piece on the matter:

Blaming Trump, But What About Obama?

....The Left is piling on President Donald Trump for what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia. They criticize the president for not doing enough or saying enough while shouting that it is Trump's fault for what happened. Where was that same outrage against Obama?

As black lives matter was killing police officers across the country, where was Obama's outrage? Why didn't the press attack him for failing to call out the black nationalist organization?  As police departments across the country geared up for more Black Lives Matter demonstrations, the White House called the street protests "a good thing."

I also remember the group yelling, "What do we want?" Dead cops, "When do we want them?" Now, and to Obama, that's a good thing? The Lame Stream Media said nothing; as a matter of fact, they seemed to be on the side of BLM.

After the demonstrations turned violent Trump made the following statement: "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides, on many sides."

Was he wrong? Both sides committed violence, as a matter of fact when violence does occur 99% of the time it is the Left that causes it. A White House official later said: "The President was condemning hatred, bigotry, and violence from all sources and all sides. ........

https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2017/08/blaming-trump-obama/

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 03:54:28 PM

I told you it was a planned ambush.....Mark my words this will lead back to Kaine.

...and I'm quite confident both 'sides' are actually the same side... probably funded by the same individual(s) too!

Why did Virginia's political leadership order the police and National Guard to stand down?

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So, obviously, this was a fraught moment. But what would have been the outcome had the police and the Virginia National Guard—both on hand in strong numbers—done their duty, enforced properly obtained demonstration permits, and preserved the right of the warring parties to make their respective points without being physically attacked, one by the other and vice versa? It's worth remembering that Charlottesville did everything it could to prevent the demonstrations, issuing permits only after being sued by the ACLU. And when push came to shove—literally—on Saturday, police and National Guardsmen were to be found only on the periphery of the brawling. Indeed, the Virginia ACLU reported that police were refusing to intervene unless specifically ordered to do so.

snip~
Almost at first contact, Charlottesville mayor Michael Signer and Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe declared a state of emergency and cancelled the demonstrators' permits, whereupon police began funneling the alt-right protestors away from the designated demonstration site—and, some reports have it, toward the counter-protestors. The carnage followed in short order. Whether the breakdown in police protection was purposeful—that is, intended to quash a constitutionally protected demonstration and provoke a violent confrontation—is a question unlikely to be pursued in Virginia's present political environment. As partisan eye-gougers go, Governor McAuliffe, a Democrat, is near the top of the list; Mayor Signer, also a Democrat, seems to be cut from the same cloth.

more @
https://www.city-journal.org/html/avoidable-mayhem-15394.html

Antifa Website Calls for Violence Against Trump Supporters

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A library of downloadable publications on the website offers long-form articles that call for "insurrectionary mass resistance and refusal" and militant tactics against employers and law enforcement

more @
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/21/its-going-down-antifa-website-calls-violence-against-trump-supporters-capitalists

Quote from: walkstall on August 15, 2017, 05:00:55 AM
Why did Virginia's political leadership order the police and National Guard to stand down?

snip~
So, obviously, this was a fraught moment. But what would have been the outcome had the police and the Virginia National Guard—both on hand in strong numbers—done their duty, enforced properly obtained demonstration permits, and preserved the right of the warring parties to make their respective points without being physically attacked, one by the other and vice versa? It's worth remembering that Charlottesville did everything it could to prevent the demonstrations, issuing permits only after being sued by the ACLU. And when push came to shove—literally—on Saturday, police and National Guardsmen were to be found only on the periphery of the brawling. Indeed, the Virginia ACLU reported that police were refusing to intervene unless specifically ordered to do so.

snip~
Almost at first contact, Charlottesville mayor Michael Signer and Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe declared a state of emergency and cancelled the demonstrators' permits, whereupon police began funneling the alt-right protestors away from the designated demonstration site—and, some reports have it, toward the counter-protestors. The carnage followed in short order. Whether the breakdown in police protection was purposeful—that is, intended to quash a constitutionally protected demonstration and provoke a violent confrontation—is a question unlikely to be pursued in Virginia's present political environment. As partisan eye-gougers go, Governor McAuliffe, a Democrat, is near the top of the list; Mayor Signer, also a Democrat, seems to be cut from the same cloth.

more @
https://www.city-journal.org/html/avoidable-mayhem-15394.html

I remind folks once again. Police departments are political arms of the mayor. Charlottesville is a liberal college town. Need we say more.

Quote from: supsalemgr on August 15, 2017, 05:26:07 AM
I remind folks once again. Police departments are political arms of the mayor. Charlottesville is a liberal college town. Need we say more.

Yup!   If you really want to start a fight, stir up a hornets nest.

The permit was issued, knowing something like this could happen, a big fight was likely.
The political 'authorities' realized this would be another way to promote their 'brand', give them media coverage and probably earn a few points locally.
The police knew this would probably 'go south' in a hurry, brought on extra help, but either failed, or were told to let it fail by someone else in authority.

History is being removed from America, first from the text books, then from the public square.
US Grant and Robert E Lee both attended the same military academy.  West Point.
Grant was not Lincoln's first choice, Lincoln asked Lee to be his general, Lee turned him down because he originated from southern states.  The guy did not want to fight against his neighbors & family (duh!)

The statue is of an honorable man, defeated in war, but honorable.   What's the big deal?

Tear down every statue of an American Indian.  Hell, the liberals already went after the Redskins logo, just a handful of people wanted that removed.  They said it insulted *me*, an Indian, yet, I was kinda proud of it.

One statue in Charlottesville insults a bunch of historically ignorant anti-Americans.
Where's a statue of that war-monger, drunk, US Grant?   How many deaths is he responsible for?   Tear down that Grant statue - we'll all feel better as we get a little dumber.