Quote from: darroll on June 24, 2015, 11:36:36 AM
You can bet your sweet bippie that the cops are protecting themselves after being accused of BS. They are the law so get over it.

And that'st he problem. A fundamental misunderstanding of the role of police. Contrary to your statement no, the cops are NOT THE  LAW. The people of the United States, are. It is the people who hold the political power in the U.S., and it is the people who create the laws, as the sovereigns in this nation.  The cops are the people we pay, to enforce those laws.

So get over it, and stop affording a position to police, they never have, and never were intended to hold in our nation.

Cops arn't the law?

He stole my chickens, call the law.
The cops comes out and has the guy return the chickens and cart his butt to jail.
I don't get the comment.

Quote from: darroll on June 27, 2015, 11:15:06 AM
Cops arn't the law?

He stole my chickens, call the law.
The cops comes out and has the guy return the chickens and cart his butt to jail.
I don't get the comment.

Now just WHO made that law in your area.  Cops enforce the laws, just like some judges.     

They don't make the laws unless they are on the supreme court like they do now.  Need I say more.   

The state, county, cities make the laws.
It's still up to the cop to decide what law was broken.
The cop could of made the guy give back the guys chickens
and just got his butt chewed.
I still would not question a cops authority as he will de-horn you quickly.

I don't regret saying it either.....in appropriate circumstances mind you!

Quote from: Montanamike on June 27, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
I don't regret saying it either.....in appropriate circumstances mind you!

There are whites and there are white trash, there are blacks and there are black trash.  My father took me out in the woodshed after saying the N word as a very young kid.  The woodshed was always full of knowledge too live by.  The woodshed was not always a bad place for knowledge as some words he would not use in front of mom, he was just that way.  You should not go back to the woodshed for the same thing. 

Quote from: Montanamike on June 27, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
I don't regret saying it either.....in appropriate circumstances mind you!

There is never an appropriate circumstance, and if blacks themselves ever stop using it, a little self-respect might follow.

I hope this is not too controversial a thing to say, but the problems are compounded by misdirected leadership on both sides.  Extreme black leadership -- and make no mistake, this is what we have -- is convinced the way to raise the black is to tear down the white. Conservative black leadership takes the opposite position, as does conservative white. To further complicate the issue, leftist whites have discovered lucrative careers based on exploiting the racial divide, aggravating it.
It manifests in whiners and wise-crackers like the Rev, and psychopaths such as Louis. The behavior we see in the cities is nothing more complicated than pillaging. The blacks and the politicians who exploit them are possessed to take more territory. Once the territory has  been taken, do they work to create a prosperous black community? No. They just create another no-go zone. They are locked into a mindset that must change before real progress will be possible.

Quote from: darroll on June 27, 2015, 03:01:22 PM
The state, county, cities make the laws.
It's still up to the cop to decide what law was broken.
The cop could of made the guy give back the guys chickens
and just got his butt chewed.
I still would not question a cops authority as he will de-horn you quickly.

You are forgetting something... It is called the presumption of innocence. Unless the cop actually saw the law being broken he can only act in accordance with a legal warrant, or an official complaint. Even then, all suspects are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

If the cop forces the guy to give you the chickens, he might actually be involving himself in a criminal act! (After all, you might have lied about the guy stealing your chickens!)

That is why we have a court system!

 a white person uses it everyone freaks out about it, a black person uses it everybody freaks out about it.  lets say we all man up and not give a shit about a word and get back to work.

Quote from: darroll on June 27, 2015, 03:01:22 PM
The state, county, cities make the laws.
It's still up to the cop to decide what law was broken.
The cop could of made the guy give back the guys chickens
and just got his butt chewed.
I still would not question a cops authority as he will de-horn you quickly.

I agree, as exlaw enforcement, the officer  is literally, judge, jury and hangman.
He makes the initial decision on how the incident is percieved by the judge and potential jury, all by how the report is written, or he can simply ignore the law and decide on the merits of the facts at hand, and tell them to get a life and get over it and quit acting like idiots.

I have predetermined the final outcome based on how, and what I wrote in my report.
Even when the evidence weighed poorly against the accused, sometimes the officer is privy to past circumstances that would never be seen in court, so as an officer of the "LAW" my opinion carries far more weight as the final arbiter.

Yes, the officer is the "LAW".

Quote from: Solar on July 02, 2015, 10:26:32 AM
I agree, as exlaw enforcement, the officer  is literally, judge, jury and hangman.
He makes the initial decision on how the incident is percieved by the judge and potential jury, all by how the report is written, or he can simply ignore the law and decide on the merits of the facts at hand, and tell them to get a life and get over it and quit acting like idiots.

I have predetermined the final outcome based on how, and what I wrote in my report.
Even when the evidence weighed poorly against the accused, sometimes the officer is privy to past circumstances that would never be seen in court, so as an officer of the "LAW" my opinion carries far more weight as the final arbiter.

Yes, the officer is the "LAW".

Not criticizing you personally as you had to work in the system as it exists, not as it was meant to be.

But, I"m pretty sure that is not what our founders had in mind. I know they were extremely fearful of a Federal police force.

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 02, 2015, 10:30:43 AM
Not criticizing you personally as you had to work in the system as it exists, not as it was meant to be.

But, I"m pretty sure that is not what our founders had in mind. I know they were extremely fearful of a Federal police force.

Actually it's exactly what they had in mind.
Liberty is only as free as the law enforced.

Many times I would have denied justice, tax payers hard earned money as well as caused loss of freedom of the true victim, had I followed the letter of the law.
I preferred to take the human approach when dealing with a black and white law.

EG. stupid cop syndrome/govt robot. Man races to hospital with dying wife.
Wife dies regardless, cop sites man for speeding on an empty freeway. Was justice really served?

Hell no, and that's not what the law was designed for, but that's how it's written, and only an idiot automaton would enforce it in that case.

Here's another example of not following the letter of the law. My hat is off to this DA.

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