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What Trump Says vs What Trump Does
« on: December 01, 2018, 11:16:41 AM »
I was commenting on a post earlier when another member claimed Trump does what he says, I was accused of de-railing the thread when I claimed Trump does not come through all the time.  I was told to make my own thread, so here it is.

Trump runs his mouth a lot.  I think some of his problems would be solved by pausing to think for a while.  If he thought, "does this tweet or claim make me look like a douche?" everytime he says something, then maybe he would embarrass the country less.  At least he is trying to Make America Rake Again.

I made several claims in the other thread.  It's easy to find Trumps quotes on the internet.  Unfortunately a portion of the claims I made are no longer supported by the Trump/Pence campaign page as much of the content is no gone.

Trump called for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the USA; not happening.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/24/travel-ban-donald-trump-campaign-promises-president-tweets/542504002/
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Dec. 7, 2015: "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on."
No complete muslim travel ban ever.

He said he would not be the vacation president, looks like he actually is one.
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/245884-trump-i-would-rarely-leave-the-white-house
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“I would rarely leave the White House because there’s so much work to be done,” Trump, 69, tells ITK. "I would not be a president who took vacations. I would not be a president that takes time off.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/08/03/by-end-of-august-trump-will-have-spent-three-times-as-many-days-at-leisure-as-obama/?utm_term=.9a71690d5c02
He golfs a ton compared to Obama who he mocked for played golf.

He was unable to cancel funding to sanctuary cities.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/01/25/trump-slashes-federal-funding-sanctuary-cities/CEXMyIvNZXEgtDTOOoyn3N/story.html
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President Donald Trump on Wednesday issued executive orders to build a wall at the Mexican border, crack down on undocumented immigrants, and strip federal funding from the sanctuary cities that protect them, including Boston, Somerville, and Lawrence.
Trying and failing is a broken promise.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/30/politics/judge-ruling-sanctuary-city-law-enforcement-grants/index.html

He was unable to stop the AT&T, Time Warner merger.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/21/trump-says-att-time-warner-deal-is-not-good-for-the-country.html
He said he would stop it, but was unable to.

He really hasn't gone anywhere with his promise to investigate Clinton.
https://www.ajc.com/news/trump-clinton-look-what-she-getting-away-with/ysBf1gX8kGwTCcUTuNyiZI/
As long as Clinton can keep giving us her middle finger, then the trump administration has failed to punish her or keep her on a leash.

As far as I know he hasn't brought back waterboarding.
http://theconversation.com/will-donald-trump-bring-back-torture-foreign-leaders-might-need-to-step-up-to-stop-him-70932
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I would bring back waterboarding, and I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.
He goes on to say he would obey the law, but he can help get it changed.

I still can't detuct my health care insurance premiums from my taxes.
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Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.
It was on this page, but it will not load right now. 
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform

Where are the lawsuits against his accusers of sexual misconduct?
https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/22/politics/trump-says-hell-sue-sexual-misconduct-accusers/index.html
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"Every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign," Trump said during remarks in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. "Total fabrication. The events never happened. Never. All of these liars will be sued after the election is over."
Trump isn't stupid enough to sue those women.  If he does, then he will have a hard time avoiding the depositions.
 
We still haven't seen his tax returns as he suggested we would.  It's completely legal to release them during an audit.
https://money.cnn.com/2017/04/17/news/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.html
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More than a year before he announced his presidential campaign, Trump told an Irish television station that he would "absolutely" release his tax returns if he entered the race.  "If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely," he said. "And I would love to do that."
But as the years go by he creeps further and further away from that promise.

I haven't seen the new child care tax deductions yet.
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"The Trump plan will rewrite the tax code to allow working parents to deduct from their income taxes child care expenses for up to four children and elderly dependents," the campaign said in its child care proposal.
This has also been removed from their website.  https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/fact-sheet-donald-j.-trumps-new-child-care-plan

He hasn't cut the current 7 tax brackets to 3.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-cuts_us_59cad42ce4b02aef6cd5fd04
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The White House officials said the current seven tax brackets that range from 10 percent to 39.6 percent would be collapsed into three: 12 percent, 25 percent and 35 percent.





 
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Re: What Trump Says vs What Trump Does
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2018, 11:51:11 AM »
I was commenting on a post earlier when another member claimed Trump does what he says, I was accused of de-railing the thread when I claimed Trump does not come through all the time.  I was told to make my own thread, so here it is.

Trump runs his mouth a lot.  I think some of his problems would be solved by pausing to think for a while.  If he thought, "does this tweet or claim make me look like a douche?" everytime he says something, then maybe he would embarrass the country less.  At least he is trying to Make America Rake Again.

I made several claims in the other thread.  It's easy to find Trumps quotes on the internet.  Unfortunately a portion of the claims I made are no longer supported by the Trump/Pence campaign page as much of the content is no gone.

Trump called for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the USA; not happening.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/24/travel-ban-donald-trump-campaign-promises-president-tweets/542504002/No complete muslim travel ban ever.
No, he never made that claim, that's LSM lies, he staated he would shut down certain countries that support terrorism, which happened to be fro Muscum countries.

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He said he would not be the vacation president, looks like he actually is one.
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/245884-trump-i-would-rarely-leave-the-white-househttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/08/03/by-end-of-august-trump-will-have-spent-three-times-as-many-days-at-leisure-as-obama/?utm_term=.9a71690d5c02
He golfs a ton compared to Obama who he mocked for played golf.
Nice try, but using an opinion piece that even states as such is hardly a place to start to validate your point.

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He was unable to cancel funding to sanctuary cities.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/01/25/trump-slashes-federal-funding-sanctuary-cities/CEXMyIvNZXEgtDTOOoyn3N/story.htmlTrying and failing is a broken promise.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/30/politics/judge-ruling-sanctuary-city-law-enforcement-grants/index.html

He was unable to stop the AT&T, Time Warner merger.He said he would stop it, but was unable to.
How is he breaking a promise if the courts blocked his agenda?

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He really hasn't gone anywhere with his promise to investigate Clinton.
https://www.ajc.com/news/trump-clinton-look-what-she-getting-away-with/ysBf1gX8kGwTCcUTuNyiZI/
As long as Clinton can keep giving us her middle finger, then the trump administration has failed to punish her or keep her on a leash.

Wrong again, Hillary is being investigated, but it's no surprise you haven't heard about it when you bury your head up the leftist ass media.

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As far as I know he hasn't brought back waterboarding.
http://theconversation.com/will-donald-trump-bring-back-torture-foreign-leaders-might-need-to-step-up-to-stop-him-70932He goes on to say he would obey the law, but he can help get it changed.
No one really knows because much of what occurs during an interrogation remains secret.

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I still can't detuct my health care insurance premiums from my taxes.It was on this page, but it will not load right now. 
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform

Again, this is not Trup's fault, the gop'E refuses to do what they were elected to do, and we had all three branches.

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Where are the lawsuits against his accusers of sexual misconduct?
https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/22/politics/trump-says-hell-sue-sexual-misconduct-accusers/index.htmlTrump isn't stupid enough to sue those women.  If he does, then he will have a hard time avoiding the depositions.
No one cares, and whuy should he waste his time over such issues when in the end, even if he won, the media would use it to their benefit.

 
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We still haven't seen his tax returns as he suggested we would.  It's completely legal to release them during an audit.
https://money.cnn.com/2017/04/17/news/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.htmlBut as the years go by he creeps further and further away from that promise.
He didn't have to, the NY Slimes leaked them.

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I haven't seen the new child care tax deductions yet.This has also been removed from their website.  https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/fact-sheet-donald-j.-trumps-new-child-care-plan

He hasn't cut the current 7 tax brackets to 3.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-cuts_us_59cad42ce4b02aef6cd5fd04
Again, blame the leftist GOP, it's there job to see that a Bill arrive on his desk, and no, they have not sent him one yet. But be assured, if they di, it would be filled with pork.
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Re: What Trump Says vs What Trump Does
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2018, 11:52:31 AM »
I was commenting on a post earlier when another member claimed Trump does what he says, I was accused of de-railing the thread when I claimed Trump does not come through all the time.  I was told to make my own thread, so here it is.

Trump runs his mouth a lot.  I think some of his problems would be solved by pausing to think for a while.  If he thought, "does this tweet or claim make me look like a douche?" everytime he says something, then maybe he would embarrass the country less.  At least he is trying to Make America Rake Again.

I made several claims in the other thread.  It's easy to find Trumps quotes on the internet.  Unfortunately a portion of the claims I made are no longer supported by the Trump/Pence campaign page as much of the content is no gone.

Trump called for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the USA; not happening.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/24/travel-ban-donald-trump-campaign-promises-president-tweets/542504002/No complete muslim travel ban ever.

He said he would not be the vacation president, looks like he actually is one.
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/245884-trump-i-would-rarely-leave-the-white-househttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/08/03/by-end-of-august-trump-will-have-spent-three-times-as-many-days-at-leisure-as-obama/?utm_term=.9a71690d5c02
He golfs a ton compared to Obama who he mocked for played golf.

He was unable to cancel funding to sanctuary cities.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/01/25/trump-slashes-federal-funding-sanctuary-cities/CEXMyIvNZXEgtDTOOoyn3N/story.htmlTrying and failing is a broken promise.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/30/politics/judge-ruling-sanctuary-city-law-enforcement-grants/index.html

He was unable to stop the AT&T, Time Warner merger.He said he would stop it, but was unable to.

He really hasn't gone anywhere with his promise to investigate Clinton.
https://www.ajc.com/news/trump-clinton-look-what-she-getting-away-with/ysBf1gX8kGwTCcUTuNyiZI/
As long as Clinton can keep giving us her middle finger, then the trump administration has failed to punish her or keep her on a leash.

As far as I know he hasn't brought back waterboarding.
http://theconversation.com/will-donald-trump-bring-back-torture-foreign-leaders-might-need-to-step-up-to-stop-him-70932He goes on to say he would obey the law, but he can help get it changed.

I still can't detuct my health care insurance premiums from my taxes.It was on this page, but it will not load right now. 
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform

Where are the lawsuits against his accusers of sexual misconduct?
https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/22/politics/trump-says-hell-sue-sexual-misconduct-accusers/index.htmlTrump isn't stupid enough to sue those women.  If he does, then he will have a hard time avoiding the depositions.
 
We still haven't seen his tax returns as he suggested we would.  It's completely legal to release them during an audit.
https://money.cnn.com/2017/04/17/news/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.htmlBut as the years go by he creeps further and further away from that promise.

I haven't seen the new child care tax deductions yet.This has also been removed from their website.  https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/fact-sheet-donald-j.-trumps-new-child-care-plan

He hasn't cut the current 7 tax brackets to 3.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-cuts_us_59cad42ce4b02aef6cd5fd04

Great Ceasar's Ghost, Batman!

I'll betcha anything Obama looks this over and thinks Trump lost his pen and his phone.

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Re: What Trump Says vs What Trump Does
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2018, 12:14:21 PM »
Again, this is not Trup's fault, the gop'E refuses to do what they were elected to do, and we had all three branches.
No one cares, and whuy should he waste his time over such issues when in the end, even if he won, the media would use it to their benefit.
Trump knows there is a government he has to bend to his will when he makes a promise.  Why don't you know this?  A promise not kept for any reason is a promise broken.  You wouldn't give Obama a pass just because Congress didn't go along with his crazy schemes?  Or would you?

 
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He didn't have to, the NY Slimes leaked them.
That is a joke and you know it.  A tiny portion of his returns were leaked by certain asshats.  Trump promised that he would release his returns.  Either he does or he doesn't.  If he wants to go back on his word, that's fine with me.  It's not like it will be anything new from him or any other president.  I claimed that Trump was  not a man of his word and I'm right.

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Again, blame the leftist GOP, it's there job to see that a Bill arrive on his desk, and no, they have not sent him one yet. But be assured, if they di, it would be filled with pork.
Don't make the promise if you can't influence Congress to do their part.  Saying you tried is just another way of saying you lied.
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Re: What Trump Says vs What Trump Does
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2018, 12:17:30 PM »
Trump knows there is a government he has to bend to his will when he makes a promise.  Why don't you know this?  A promise not kept for any reason is a promise broken.  You wouldn't give Obama a pass just because Congress didn't go along with his crazy schemes?  Or would you?

 That is a joke and you know it.  A tiny portion of his returns were leaked by certain asshats.  Trump promised that he would release his returns.  Either he does or he doesn't.  If he wants to go back on his word, that's fine with me.  It's not like it will be anything new from him or any other president.  I claimed that Trump was  not a man of his word and I'm right.
Don't make the promise if you can't influence Congress to do their part.  Saying you tried is just another way of saying you lied.
Is his term up yet? I guess you're having a teenage premature ejaculation over nothing. Come back in 2024 and bitch when his time in the WH ends.
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Re: What Trump Says vs What Trump Does
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2018, 12:23:10 PM »
Is his term up yet? I guess you're having a teenage premature ejaculation over nothing. Come back in 2024 and bitch when his time in the WH ends.
I'll make sure to bring it back up in 2020 or 2024; or in the very unlikely event he is impeached/convicted in 2019.  I think you're going to ban me soon out of spite.  I'll keep this invitation in mind.
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Re: What Trump Says vs What Trump Does
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2018, 02:05:02 PM »


Trump runs his mouth a lot.  I think some of his problems would be solved by pausing to think for a while.  If he thought, "does this tweet or claim make me look like a douche?" everytime he says something, then maybe he would embarrass the country less.  At least he is trying to Make America Rake Again.




How often do you ask that question before posting.

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Re: What Trump Says vs What Trump Does
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2018, 05:11:50 PM »
So, Trump isn't an authoritarian after all.

This is kind of petty. If Trump is a liar because the courts or the congress prevent him from implementing his polices then every president is a serial liar and in future when campaigning candidates will say "when I am president I will try and do this and I will try and do that."

Not going to happen.
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Re: What Trump Says vs What Trump Does
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2018, 08:32:08 AM »
Trump knows there is a government he has to bend to his will when he makes a promise.  Why don't you know this?  A promise not kept for any reason is a promise broken.  You wouldn't give Obama a pass just because Congress didn't go along with his crazy schemes?  Or would you?

 That is a joke and you know it.  A tiny portion of his returns were leaked by certain asshats.  Trump promised that he would release his returns.  Either he does or he doesn't.  If he wants to go back on his word, that's fine with me.  It's not like it will be anything new from him or any other president.  I claimed that Trump was  not a man of his word and I'm right.
Don't make the promise if you can't influence Congress to do their part.  Saying you tried is just another way of saying you lied.


Obama used his pen and his phone to Circumvent Congress...especially on Immigration which is still damaging Our Country.

Nobody cares about Trumps Tax returns, except the left.....even some of them don't really care, but since they don't have anything else concrete to scream about they try pumping it up like a leaking flat tire which will hopefully hold up until one gets to the gas station....or the 2020 election.

I don't think anyone, even Trump himself anticipated the amount of resistience, sabotage and sedition he has experienced since he won the election in 2016.  The Judiciary has done more to thwart Trump especially on matters of National Security and immigration than any other President and makes Congress irrelevant. Then you have the whole Comey/FBI Mueller investigation which is essentially illegal, yet still persists.

In many cases it is not Trump going back on his word it is those Govt officials who are tasked with carrying out the business of the Govt who are going back on their word by betraying their oath of office and putting politics before the Constitution they are sworn to uphold.
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