What Single Issue Would Prevent You From Voting for the Next Prez?

Started by Yawn, January 31, 2013, 05:39:24 PM

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Yawn

Just curious if you have a single issue that would prevent you from voting for the GOP candidate? For me, it would be if I don't believe he'd appoint Justices to the Supreme Court that would overturn Roe v Wade. Next on my list is GOP supporters of amnesty for the new special class--the illegal Mexican voter. My two favorites are Rubio and Rand Paul, but both support amnesty for these "special" Mexicans. I may not vote if this is the best we can do.

Byteryder

Quote from: Yawn on January 31, 2013, 05:39:24 PM
Just curious if you have a single issue that would prevent you from voting for the GOP candidate? For me, it would be if I don't believe he'd appoint Justices to the Supreme Court that would overturn Roe v Wade. Next on my list is GOP supporters of amnesty for the new special class--the illegal Mexican voter. My two favorites are Rubio and Rand Paul, but both support amnesty for these "special" Mexicans. I may not vote if this is the best we can do.

The point here is how hard will this hypothetical President move on these issues?  They all talk a good line, but they dont all take it as The Word of God.

Yawn

Problem is, they both are already ON RECORD that they support amnesty for ILLEGAL INVADERS. I will have a hard time even voting for them, let alone "supporting" them. Wasn't that every establishment RINO'S problem--a lack of enthusiastic support from the Republican base?

The Stranger

"Every man is like the company he keeps."
"Show me your friends and I'll show you your Future"

kramarat

Yeah. That sitting out elections is working out wonderfully.

The people that stayed home, really showed the GOP who's boss.

Assuming we still have only two parties, nothing would prevent me from voting for the GOP candidate.

I'd rather be on here bitching about a RINO, than living in fear of a socialist.

Turks

Quote from: The Stranger on February 01, 2013, 03:33:35 AM
Anti Gun, Chris Christie.


I'm not sure.  I say not voting is a vote for the opposition but having said that, I would never vote for Christie. 

Reality

I agree with "kramarat". 

As conservatives we give more thought to what our candidate supports but that indivdual doesn't always match lock step to what I want and/or believe. Dems line up behind thier candiate no matter what and therein lies the difference in now having their guy for his second term and not having our guy as the POTUS. 

Is, and/or, will our candiate in 2016 match my position on all the issues on the table at that time.  I doubt it but I'm convinced whoever the dem opponent is will come nowhere near my position on the issues.  There are some core beliefs of the dems that I cannot support and those core beliefs will never go away. 

Supossedly there were pubs, and/or conservatives, that disagreed with Romney and decided to stay home on election day and not support him.  Obvioulsy they did not support Obama but the net effect of their stubborness and failure to vote was a vote for Obama.  Are those people happy with the outcome?  If they aren't they have no one to blame but themselves.

supsalemgr

Quote from: Reality on February 01, 2013, 05:16:25 AM
I agree with "kramarat". 

As conservatives we give more thought to what our candidate supports but that indivdual doesn't always match lock step to what I want and/or believe. Dems line up behind thier candiate no matter what and therein lies the difference in now having their guy for his second term and not having our guy as the POTUS. 

Is, and/or, will our candiate in 2016 match my position on all the issues on the table at that time.  I doubt it but I'm convinced whoever the dem opponent is will come nowhere near my position on the issues.  There are some core beliefs of the dems that I cannot support and those core beliefs will never go away. 

Supossedly there were pubs, and/or conservatives, that disagreed with Romney and decided to stay home on election day and not support him.  Obvioulsy they did not support Obama but the net effect of their stubborness and failure to vote was a vote for Obama.  Are those people happy with the outcome?  If they aren't they have no one to blame but themselves.

I am with Reality 100%. we will never have a candidate we will ever agree with on every issue. My litmus test is to just look at the dem candidate and what they offer. That makes my decision very easy. A non vote is a vote for a lib.
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Bowhntr

Reality and sup have nailed it.  I did not support Romney in the primaries but the guy that most agreed with my positions lost and Romney was the candidate up against Obama.  With that said I went and gladly cast my vote for Romney.  No candidate is ever going to match individual issue positions 100%.  However, up against the liberals/democrats a GOP candidate comes much closer to matching mine.

The Stranger

I've never missed a state or fed election  my life. I did not agree with Romney on all issues but voted for him and liked his work ethic and family values so there were Positives over Negatives. But look how hard it was to pull the lever for McCain, Dole and such in the past.
I'm tired of not only the candidates but the stupidity of the Rep party, the infighting which was part of Romney's doom. The lackluster effort to attack the OTHER guy.
It's just where we are at. I liked Newt, I liked Cain but they had no chance and party crushed themselves.
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raptor5618

Nothing would prevent me from voting. I suspect that the Dem candidate will be Obama II so there is no way I would vote for who ever it is.  I do not think I could vote for Christie because while I thought he was for small govt and fiscally conservative as well as willing to do what he said he would do,  his true colors came out and perhaps he is just an egotistical loudmouth.  If the GOP candidate is vowing to focus on social issues I probably would not vote for him. 

I am fine with being against abortions, and thinking that gay marriage should be an issue for the churches to decide.  If they say they even want to eliminate gay unions I might not want to vote for them.  Immigration reform without border security again no vote for the GOP candidate.

As far as abortion goes I think the GOP would be well served if they attacked it in a different way.  If they said that they would change the law to only allow abortions up to the time that a fetus could be born and live.  I know abortions would still be able to be performed but they are able to keep babies alive at an earlier and earlier time than ever before.  I think that technology will advance to where a fetus could be saved at a very early time in the pregnancy making it pretty much illegal.  I think even this is abhorrent to those who believe that abortion is murder and I get that point but I think it is an issue that the Dem's are very good at twisting into a focal issue which it should not be.  Which is my point the GOP should no make this one of its key issues.  It is primarily a moral issue and I think I am a typical independent who wants the govt to stick to protecting us from invasion and from harming each other.   

But if the GOP was all about social issue I probably would vote for the libertarian or constitutional party candidate.   I just think that not voting is allowing the people with a vested interest to control things. If all the people who are disgusted with our politicians of either party still voted it is likely that Obama never would have been president.  We might have Ron Paul instead which is also a bit scary to me mostly because of his views on national defense but our voting apathy in a very real way rewards the politician who basically secures his voting base with goodies he hands out.
"An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity."

Reality

All POTUS candidates carry a "big stick" when they are on the campaign trail but when the winner gets the "let me tell you like it really is briefing" from the out going POTUS, especially in matters relating to foreign policy and military defense, I'm guessing the response is "no shi*, you got to be kidding me". Paul may have sung a different tune when he saw what the real musical score was.

Look at Obammy's "hope and change" BS.  All the hope is still there amd most if not all of his so called change BS hasn't occurred.  GITMO is a good example.  Nope, what you see on the campaign trail is not what you get when the rubber meets the road.  Carter comes close and we know what happened to him.  Reagan made it happen but it took two terms to do it.

Christy is on my shi* list.  His lovein with Obammy and his alligator mouth is over the top.


Shooterman

A question for the 'GOP Candidate At Any Cost Crowd'. Is there any issue that will grab you, other than 'winning' that will prohibit a vote for a PUB Candidate foe President. If there isn't you are a fool ( generic before getting panties twisted )  and if there are, you are a hypocrite for castigating others for what you may do yourself.

I would suggest the Little Vote Fairy doesn't automatically take any vote for other that a GOP Dickhead PUB and place it in a Democrat Dick vote tally.

I will repeat this. If every vote that was cast for a third party instead of McCain in '08, had gone to McCain, the results would not have changed.

Clinging to a dying misfit party such as PUBS will guarantee a further degenerating country.

Morphing parties originally created the regional party known as Republicans. The PUBS are now, have been before, and shall remain in the process of morphing into the Socialist Lite Party.
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JustKari

In a lot of ways, I agree with Kram, I am not a single issue voter.  I voted for Romney even when he said he listed his first 15 executive orders, which I hate.  I voted for him even when he talked about starting programs for this and that, while they may have been good ideas, were not fiscally conservative.

Also, the candidates promise is only as good as his/her allies in the congress.  It really does not matter how much Rubio or Paul push immigration, if the house and senate refuse to take up the cause.

If the republicans continue to drift further left though, they will lose my vote.

TowardLiberty

The election itself!

Seeing as though I would never again vote in one.