Quote from: Shooterman on August 24, 2011, 02:14:49 PM
Christie is weak on Second Amendment issues, which is enough to disqualify him in my book.

Christie is weak in more areas than the Second Ammendment, sir. He has troubling issues in the social realm as well. In my mind he is not a viable candidate for the presidency, as he truly does not wholly represent conservative values. He is a North East conservative, or if you will, a rino. In my mind he resides in the "squishy" middle. Which he is where he needed to be in order to gain the position he currently holds. He's a sell out. We would do well to keep him in his current position. Wnat is good for New Jersey, is not neccessarily good for the nation.

Bottom line we can make any of these guys work with the current house and a republican senate. Some may be better than others but they are all better than Obama.

Quote from: Dan on August 24, 2011, 05:31:11 PM
Bottom line we can make any of these guys work with the current house and a republican senate. Some may be better than others but they are all better than Obama.

I hear ya Dan. But I want a guy, or gal for that matter, that will lead, and not lead from behind. Mr. Obama is a pathetic executive in every sense of the word. His lack of executive experience is glaring, and now the country as a whole is suffering from a massive mistake that was made by electing a community organizer. The United States is not a freaking community, it is the largest, or used to be, the largest economic engine in the world. In less than a year he relegated us to a second rate nation, and endangered the econmic future of several generations. His lack of leadership borders on treason. He should be impeached and exiled.

Cain.

Quote from: Dan on August 24, 2011, 10:15:25 AM
Right now my vote is for Chris Christie? Is he perfect? No. Do I agree with him on a whole host of social issues? No. But he has a bigger set of brass balls than any Republican in the primary (with the possible exception of Bachman) and he would be serious about cutting entitlements. He is charismatic, no BS and no afraid to mix it up to achieve a goal. Politics is a contact sport and this guy has the right temperment for it. To use a football metaphor he isn't afriad to hit or to get hit. That's what we need right now. You couple Christie with an even more Tea Party house and and a Republican controlled senate and it will be a fiscal conservative's dream. Real entitlement reform. Real cuts to discretionary spending. Real moves towards a pro-business tax reform agenda (cut loopholes and lower top marginal rates).

All that being said, I don't know if he passes the test on things like the second ammendment or gay marriage or abortion. And in a perfect world that would matter. But if we don't get our fiscal house in order and I mean soon then it won't matter if a public school is teaching 4th graders about Johnnie's two mommies or not. First things first and that means getting the federal government on a sound fiscal footing.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on Christie as well as the people you feel would be better.

I flat out don't like Perry, I don't like his stance on Immigration, I don't like the fact he was a campaign manager for Al Gore, a man I consider mentally unfit for anything.

Personally I would like to see Herman Cain for the simple reason he is a Businessman and I'm real tired of policitican/lawyers or Generals running the country and we need a businessman to run the country LIKE A BUSINESS and get people back to work again while triming the dead weight and fat (Govt) that is draging it down.

That said I don't think Cain has much of a chance.

As far as the others go they have their strong points and weak points, I would go with Bachman but I think she is lacking in experience or maybe Christie but I see a bit of RINO in him.

Yeah if RP gets the nod I'll vote for him. ;)

Comes down to it I'll vote for anybody to get rid of the guy we got messing things up big time now.


Billy

Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on August 24, 2011, 06:05:48 PM

I flat out don't like Perry, I don't like his stance on Immigration, I don't like the fact he was a campaign manager for Al Gore, a man I consider mentally unfit for anything.

Personally I would like to see Herman Cain for the simple reason he is a Businessman and I'm real tired of policitican/lawyers or Generals running the country and we need a businessman to run the country LIKE A BUSINESS and get people back to work again while triming the dead weight and fat (Govt) that is draging it down.

That said I don't think Cain has much of a chance.

As far as the others go they have their strong points and weak points, I would go with Bachman but I think she is lacking in experience or maybe Christie but I see a bit of RINO in him.

Yeah if RP gets the nod I'll vote for him. ;)

Comes down to it I'll vote for anybody to get rid of the guy we got messing things up big time now.


Billy

Cain has a better chance than Bachman. She's the prime target of the left. They can more afford to lose a small part of the black vote than they can the female vote, and will do as they did against Palin, and hit her with both barrels.


The female vote is key for any win for a democrat.

Well this will take us back to the "lesser of two evils' idea which i no longer will participate in. McCain was the last. Keeping out Liberals does not necessarily elect Conservatives and advance the Conservative agenda.

Now the name Christie was mentioned. People gravitate towards Christie for the same reason people briefly moved towards Donald Trump. Finally there was a Republican that is willing to speak his mind and step on toes. If you like Christie because of his directness then why not Perry? Now I am not saying he is my pick but penny to a pound he is more Conservative then Christie

However as it stands now Perry is the guy to beat. That could change at any time.


BTW this is my first political post since I got my new laptop...

Quote from: Harry on August 24, 2011, 06:10:40 PM

Cain has a better chance than Bachman. She's the prime target of the left. They can more afford to lose a small part of the black vote than they can the female vote, and will do as they did against Palin, and hit her with both barrels.


The female vote is key for any win for a democrat.

I think you are right, the left is gonna go hog wild on any
GOP female be it Bachman or Palin. You might get SOME of the black vote with Cain but I doubt it, they'll get some idiot like Jessie Jackass to lable him a "tom" and that will be that.


Billy

Quote from: Harry on August 24, 2011, 06:04:34 PM
Cain.

I wish.

Quote from: The mighty wu on August 24, 2011, 06:17:03 PM

I wish.

He could masterfully command about 2% of the black vote. Can't depend on skin color. Dear Leader is the Negro of Preference for the Modern Black Voter.

Quote from: tbone0106 on August 24, 2011, 06:31:00 PM
He could masterfully command about 2% of the black vote. Can't depend on skin color. Dear Leader is the Negro of Preference for the Modern Black Voter.

Bingo, unfortunately you are right, I don't care what his skin color is, he is a successful businessman and that how the Govt should be run. What you have are a bunch of idiot politicans with a background in law trying run a Govt (which is a business in itself) with out any idea of financing or fiscal expereince or expertise.


However he is gonna get the "Tom" label and the lemmings are gonna go Obamao for more and better bennies.


Billy

Billy

Quote from: Harry on August 24, 2011, 06:10:40 PM

Cain has a better chance than Bachman. She's the prime target of the left. They can more afford to lose a small part of the black vote than they can the female vote, and will do as they did against Palin, and hit her with both barrels.


The female vote is key for any win for a democrat.

Right now they are focusing on Perry as he is the front runner. That gives her a chance to really build a base and get her message out unfiltered. According to Dick Morris Cain is a serious threat. He's doing well in my opinion, for someone with little or no name recognition...

Quote from: Neener Neener Neener.... on August 24, 2011, 06:15:32 PM
Well this will take us back to the "lesser of two evils' idea which i no longer will participate in. McCain was the last. Keeping out Liberals does not necessarily elect Conservatives and advance the Conservative agenda.

Now the name Christie was mentioned. People gravitate towards Christie for the same reason people briefly moved towards Donald Trump. Finally there was a Republican that is willing to speak his mind and step on toes. If you like Christie because of his directness then why not Perry? Now I am not saying he is my pick but penny to a pound he is more Conservative then Christie

However as it stands now Perry is the guy to beat. That could change at any time.


BTW this is my first political post since I got my new laptop...

Congrats on the first political post. I'm impressed that a new computer can infuse so much in the way of common sense.


I don't think I really mean that the way it sounded.


Common sense is evident though. Almost anything we can put in office is better than what occupies it right now.


I'm sticking with Cain, but I won't sit on my ass because I disagree with the nominee on some points, and not vote.

Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on August 24, 2011, 06:16:49 PM


I think you are right, the left is gonna go hog wild on any
GOP female be it Bachman or Palin. You might get SOME of the black vote with Cain but I doubt it, they'll get some idiot like Jessie Jackass to lable him a "tom" and that will be that.


Billy

He's not a black vote candidate, although the left will portray him that way. Polls in this department can be used to show he is commonsense, instead of the next PC thing to do.

Quote from: tbone0106 on August 24, 2011, 06:31:00 PM
He could masterfully command about 2% of the black vote. Can't depend on skin color. Dear Leader is the Negro of Preference for the Modern Black Voter.

I mentioned skin color?