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What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« on: August 10, 2017, 07:35:20 AM »
I ask, because as I've pointed out, NK is smaller than most states West of the Rocky Mountains, our military has every single one of their weapons targeted, we know each and every one of his launch sites and could take the entire mess out in an hour, I kid you not, 95% of his military capabilities gone in the first hour.

So why is the media suddenly again focusing on the attention seeking whore, what is so important about a guy that's made an industry of threatening his neighbors, why is American media feeding the troll?
Seriously, if one follows leftist media, one gets the impression NK alone can end Western culture on its own, yes, that's the picture the doom and gloomers are presenting.

WHY? Do they think it hurts Trump, are they trying to distract from the real news, the Dim catastrophe, Clinton Corruption Inc. or the DNC connection to ISIS terrorist (including McStain).
Is that the real reason they want Americans distracted and focusing on a two-bit dictator?

Folks, I can't stress enough, NK is not a threat and never will be unless he exports fusion material to ISIS, beyond that, he's essentially a caged rabid chihuahua barking at anyone who will pay attention.
China knows this all too well, so again, why are we feeding this troll?
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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2017, 09:42:56 AM »
Trump. They want to make North Korea look like the dragon that must be slayed. If he doesn't North Korea succeeding in acquiring nukes will be pinned on him. So Trump will be the culprit at it takes any blame off of Obama.
And, if Trump takes military action he will be branded a warmonger.


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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2017, 01:10:56 PM »
Trump. They want to make North Korea look like the dragon that must be slayed. If he doesn't North Korea succeeding in acquiring nukes will be pinned on him. So Trump will be the culprit at it takes any blame off of Obama.
And, if Trump takes military action he will be branded a warmonger.
That's what I was looking for! Makes total sense, flood the airwaves with images of the early 60s, kids duking under our desks in fear of the USSR.
I can see it, though I just don't think it will have the effect of the Cuban missile crisis, let alone the threat of a yapping dog.

I agree with your synopsis, however, I don't think the left is getting the mileage they hoped to attain, Hell, I'm even seeing them push stories claiming people want bomb shelters again, which I say is a crock of shit, no one is panicking like we did when JFK nearly got us killed in 62, or was it 63?

What Trump does next will be very telling, and I imagine NK will blink and call for dialogue, something they've been refusing to do, but now that they know Trump is serious and their ass is on the line, they'll tow the line to buy time.
Personally, I hope they provoke an attack so we can put an end to China's bargaining chip they claim they have nothing to do with.
I'd love to watch China squirm over this.
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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2017, 01:29:09 PM »
What is going on w/No.Korea?
Respectfully, it has everything to do w/reality.

Britannica compiled the following from our WW2 DoD archives:
                                                Hiroshima        Nagasaki
Population pre-bombing:               265,000          210,000
Casualties*                                  145,000            80,000
*some 90% were deaths.

Since No.Korea is highly mountainous, they have built extensive underground facilities out of eyesight of our satellites and sensors, in order to house and test their nuclear weaponry.
As a consequence, we have been surprised by their technological progress.
So given their capability of creating underground facilities, should we assume that "our military has every single one of their weapons and launch sites targeted" Really?????
For sake of argument, let's assume we can knock out 95% of No. Korea's capability in a first strike.
Seventy five years after our tests at Los Alamos; nuclear weaponry is at least 10X more deadly than it was at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
So consider a moment, the impact of the 5% of the Nukes we don't get in a first strike, on Seoul
(pop. 10,000,000) and/or Guam (pop. 175,000).
Suggest we let our military deal w/this in tandem w/their counterparts in So.Korea and Japan; while dramatically turning down the volume.
As for Trump pray for lengthy laryngitis and will somebody please toss his twitter machine in a raging fire!!!!! 

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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2017, 02:58:11 PM »
What is going on w/No.Korea?
Respectfully, it has everything to do w/reality.

Britannica compiled the following from our WW2 DoD archives:
                                                Hiroshima        Nagasaki
Population pre-bombing:               265,000          210,000
Casualties*                                  145,000            80,000
*some 90% were deaths.

Since No.Korea is highly mountainous, they have built extensive underground facilities out of eyesight of our satellites and sensors, in order to house and test their nuclear weaponry.
As a consequence, we have been surprised by their technological progress.
So given their capability of creating underground facilities, should we assume that "our military has every single one of their weapons and launch sites targeted" Really?????
For sake of argument, let's assume we can knock out 95% of No. Korea's capability in a first strike.
Seventy five years after our tests at Los Alamos; nuclear weaponry is at least 10X more deadly than it was at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
So consider a moment, the impact of the 5% of the Nukes we don't get in a first strike, on Seoul
(pop. 10,000,000) and/or Guam (pop. 175,000).
Suggest we let our military deal w/this in tandem w/their counterparts in So.Korea and Japan; while dramatically turning down the volume.
As for Trump pray for lengthy laryngitis and will somebody please toss his twitter machine in a raging fire!!!!!

At some place in time someone will have to bomb the shit out of them.  Their not going away peacefully, if you believe they are your living in the snowflake world.  Someone is going to get their nose bloody it's only matters of time.

Trump also knows his "twitter machine" is pissing off The Dem's, MSM, Snowflakes, and RINO. 
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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2017, 04:59:50 PM »
The Marxists are desperately trying to "pin" something on Trump. So far they got squat.  If Yung Son Fool actually does launch something it would likely be to hit S. Korea and/or Japan. The Left would blame the attack on Trump's rhetoric goading the NORK's into attacking. If Trump stuck first (unlikely) he would be starting a war needlessly. Either way the Left has something to "impeach trump" with and "try him for war Crimes" ala Bush/Cheney.

Did you hear what Susan Rice said?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/346050-susan-rice-us-can-tolerate-n-korean-nukes

Shows you where they are coming from....tolerate a Madman having nukes to point at the rest of the world.


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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2017, 05:42:50 PM »
What is going on w/No.Korea?
Respectfully, it has everything to do w/reality.

Britannica compiled the following from our WW2 DoD archives:
                                                Hiroshima        Nagasaki
Population pre-bombing:               265,000          210,000
Casualties*                                  145,000            80,000
*some 90% were deaths.
Nukes, who said anything about us using nukes?

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Since No.Korea is highly mountainous, they have built extensive underground facilities out of eyesight of our satellites and sensors, in order to house and test their nuclear weaponry.
Seriously? Have you ever seen a satellite image of a mining operation? You really don't give our intel much credit then. We take pics 24/7 of NK, know just what vehicles go where, how long they stay and where they came from where military operation is concerned, and oh yeah, a few bunker busters, and those cave will be grtaves in no time. This isn't the Korean war, even though that's about NK' military consists of with the exception of a handful of rockets.

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As a consequence, we have been surprised by their technological progress.
Turn off leftist news, no one has been surprised in the least, that was an excuse the left used every time NK snookered them into giving them more aid. "Oh My, NK has nukes?" How did that happen under Clintons watch? :rolleyes:

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So given their capability of creating underground facilities, should we assume that "our military has every single one of their weapons and launch sites targeted" Really?????
Oh Jeeez, yes, Really!!!

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For sake of argument, let's assume we can knock out 95% of No. Korea's capability in a first strike.

Seventy five years after our tests at Los Alamos; nuclear weaponry is at least 10X more deadly than it was at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
So consider a moment, the impact of the 5% of the Nukes we don't get in a first strike, on Seoul
(pop. 10,000,000) and/or Guam (pop. 175,000).
They won't even have a military command in place, even if we missed one, and we won't, believe me.

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Suggest we let our military deal w/this in tandem w/their counterparts in So.Korea and Japan; while dramatically turning down the volume.
As for Trump pray for lengthy laryngitis and will somebody please toss his twitter machine in a raging fire!!!!!

I see, so my knowledge of military is somehow outweighed by your emotional pleas for capitulation?
Gee, and look how well your tactics have worked over the past 60 years...
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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2017, 06:13:16 PM »
That's what I was looking for! Makes total sense, flood the airwaves with images of the early 60s, kids duking under our desks in fear of the USSR.
I can see it, though I just don't think it will have the effect of the Cuban missile crisis, let alone the threat of a yapping dog.

I agree with your synopsis, however, I don't think the left is getting the mileage they hoped to attain, Hell, I'm even seeing them push stories claiming people want bomb shelters again, which I say is a crock of shit, no one is panicking like we did when JFK nearly got us killed in 62, or was it 63?

What Trump does next will be very telling, and I imagine NK will blink and call for dialogue, something they've been refusing to do, but now that they know Trump is serious and their ass is on the line, they'll tow the line to buy time.
Personally, I hope they provoke an attack so we can put an end to China's bargaining chip they claim they have nothing to do with.
I'd love to watch China squirm over this.

There my be a second scenario. China has always been the key to this because they prop them up. They always promise to help but never do because they know the president isn't going to attack North Korea. So the media's hysterical reporting might just convince China Trump means what he says and finally step in and neuter the nip.


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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2017, 06:23:59 PM »
There my be a second scenario. China has always been the key to this because they prop them up. They always promise to help but never do because they know the president isn't going to attack North Korea. So the media's hysterical reporting might just convince China Trump means what he says and finally step in and neuter the nip.
Yeah, I think that's been a back channel ploy all along, because everyone knows who pulls the strings where NK is concerned, anyway, I assumed most people knew that, but I guess the lib media has yet to hear the truth, or at the least, accept it..
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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2017, 07:33:55 PM »
I ask, because as I've pointed out, NK is smaller than most states West of the Rocky Mountains, our military has every single one of their weapons targeted, we know each and every one of his launch sites and could take the entire mess out in an hour, I kid you not, 95% of his military capabilities gone in the first hour.

So why is the media suddenly again focusing on the attention seeking whore, what is so important about a guy that's made an industry of threatening his neighbors, why is American media feeding the troll?
Seriously, if one follows leftist media, one gets the impression NK alone can end Western culture on its own, yes, that's the picture the doom and gloomers are presenting.

WHY? Do they think it hurts Trump, are they trying to distract from the real news, the Dim catastrophe, Clinton Corruption Inc. or the DNC connection to ISIS terrorist (including McStain).
Is that the real reason they want Americans distracted and focusing on a two-bit dictator?

Folks, I can't stress enough, NK is not a threat and never will be unless he exports fusion material to ISIS, beyond that, he's essentially a caged rabid chihuahua barking at anyone who will pay attention.
China knows this all too well, so again, why are we feeding this troll?

The solution is obvious:

#1 Sell (or give) short range tactical nukes to South Korea and/or Japan.

#2 If that is not enough to neutralize North Korea, simply inform Beijing Taiwan is next.

China will cave and will do what is necessary to NK.

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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2017, 07:45:17 PM »
The solution is obvious:

#1 Sell (or give) short range tactical nukes to South Korea and/or Japan.

#2 If that is not enough to neutralize North Korea, simply inform Beijing Taiwan is next.

China will cave and will do what is necessary to NK.
Trump just approved a huge weapons package for Taiwan, China wasn't happy, and that was only the first salvo in his bag of tricks in getting China to move on NK.
Not all nations want nukes, it comes with a heavy price tag.
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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2017, 09:14:27 PM »
Trump just approved a huge weapons package for Taiwan, China wasn't happy, and that was only the first salvo in his bag of tricks in getting China to move on NK.
Not all nations want nukes, it comes with a heavy price tag.

Looks like China is already worried.

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If North Korea launches an attack that threatens the United States then China should stay neutral, but if the United States attacks first and tries to overthrow North Korea's government China will stop them, a Chinese state-run newspaper said on Friday.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china-media-idUSKBN1AR005


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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2017, 04:51:24 AM »
The Marxists are desperately trying to "pin" something on Trump. So far they got squat.  If Yung Son Fool actually does launch something it would likely be to hit S. Korea and/or Japan. The Left would blame the attack on Trump's rhetoric goading the NORK's into attacking. If Trump stuck first (unlikely) he would be starting a war needlessly. Either way the Left has something to "impeach trump" with and "try him for war Crimes" ala Bush/Cheney.

Did you hear what Susan Rice said?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/346050-susan-rice-us-can-tolerate-n-korean-nukes

Shows you where they are coming from....tolerate a Madman having nukes to point at the rest of the world.

Maxine Waters has a solution. She said we should just ask NK what they want. Brilliant!
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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2017, 04:52:43 AM »
The Marxists are desperately trying to "pin" something on Trump. So far they got squat.  If Yung Son Fool actually does launch something it would likely be to hit S. Korea and/or Japan. The Left would blame the attack on Trump's rhetoric goading the NORK's into attacking. If Trump stuck first (unlikely) he would be starting a war needlessly. Either way the Left has something to "impeach trump" with and "try him for war Crimes" ala Bush/Cheney.

Did you hear what Susan Rice said?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/346050-susan-rice-us-can-tolerate-n-korean-nukes

Shows you where they are coming from....tolerate a Madman having nukes to point at the rest of the world.

I heard an interesting commentary on the Obama / Rice era approach to world powers - let everyone go Nuclear, and thus give them an equal footing at the world table of ideas. 

Sort of, "Well, eventually, everyone will be nuclear, so let's try to civilize them into the mainstream of the international community."

Already know for projection, the assumption these rogue states will somehow become rational if we treat them with equality and respect, the Democrats actually think America is the moral equivalent to Iran and North Korea - we just have Nukes....???? :scared:  Another Obama person said, 'Just give them what they want.'  As if MONEY is all it takes - what if they want to destroy democracy, or Republic and enslave us?  Give them what they want???

Keen insight into the Democrat mindset, buy off the howling masses!   Can't get something you want through legislation, or the courts, send out paid protesters, and demand respect and 'what you want'...  Democrats, assuming, the only solution is to, 'give them what they want', instead of discuss it in the public forum.   If they don't get what they want, 'burn the bitch down'.   The Union makes their demands known, striking and shutting down daily business operations - the strike fails, they'd rather see the whole business FAIL and stand in an unemployment line than negotiate a deal.

Is Yung Son Fool a Democrat at heart?  He sure acts like one!
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Re: What Is Really Going On With North Korea
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2017, 05:29:10 AM »
Since No.Korea is highly mountainous, they have built extensive underground facilities out of eyesight of our satellites and sensors, in order to house and test their nuclear weaponry.
As a consequence, we have been surprised by their technological progress.
So given their capability of creating underground facilities, should we assume that "our military has every single one of their weapons and launch sites targeted" Really?????
Yea, we really have little things that fly high, quietly, can see in the dark, through the clouds, and unleash terrible weapons of death and destruction.
Drones.
You can't live in a cave forever, you need air to breathe.   Once the landscape has been rearranged, there is no more air vents, water, waste disposal, the cave becomes your tomb.  Every dictator understands the persuasion pain and suffering has on decision making - they fear it more than anyone else, they've seen the effects, first hand.

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Suggest we let our military deal w/this in tandem w/their counterparts in So.Korea and Japan; while dramatically turning down the volume.
As for Trump pray for lengthy laryngitis and will somebody please toss his twitter machine in a raging fire!!!!!

I think the saying, "force is met by force" applies best to dictators.  Overwhelming force is my hope, to bury this fanatical fool, Kim I'm Dung.  IMO, Donald Trump is perfect for the solution... which will be messy, thanks to Bill Clinton and Barak Obama.  Oh, remember them?   They also turned down the volume, and paid off NK and Iran, destabilizing both areas where tiny democracies exist.

The bigger picture, Walter, (stay with me here..), China just expanded their territory into foreign waters, with a couple of "Military Resorts".   They are determined to annex thousands of miles of international shipping lanes as their own territory.   Thank you, Barak Obama & Susan Rice for that wonderful international diplomacy!   :scared:  Give up territory for peace!? :confused:   Do we think, North Korea isn't mulling the idea of lopping off a chunk of South Korea... Sheol for instance, like China did, and threatening Japan, USA or ?  if we try to take it back?   Move on our annexed territory, and we'll sink every trade ship & nuke Japan.

North Korea successfully BLACKMAILED Clinton and Obama, and they still got nukes.   Now the stakes are even higher.   I don't know what Trump will do, if anything other than running his mouth off - but, it's working!   :thumbup:  He's got Russia and China to sign on with sanctions, he's beating the drums of war, and Kim I'm Dung is looking at 'alternative' targets for his latest blackmail scheme.  The Governor of Guam PRAISED Donald Trump with a, 'hit the little bastard with everything you got!' - instead of shaking in his sandals and pleading for restraint.

I'm not over there, never have been - so, I'll default to the Governor of Guam's side.   :thumbup:
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