If you would really like to know, here is a link to a very well written article on the subject.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/28/tawdry-details-of-obamacare-420960137/

You will definitely enjoy this story by Dr. Wolf in The Washington Times

Excellent article U_Kay...   This alone shows the insanity that is HusseinCare...

and the article exposes Obama and Sebellius...

These people who have taken over the Democratic party are taking the party down a slippery slope, imo.

My goodness they are harming the Democratic party.

One of my main beefs with socialized medicine, and one I rarely hear anyone else gripe about, is that socialized medicine inevitably politicizes medicine.

If you've got political influence you get the best care. If you don't you get what's left over after the people with political influence get whatever they need/want. That's not good for medicine or democracy as we're now finding out.

Quote from: arpad on January 30, 2011, 06:45:23 PM
One of my main beefs with socialized medicine, and one I rarely hear anyone else gripe about, is that socialized medicine inevitably politicizes medicine.

If you've got political influence you get the best care. If you don't you get what's left over after the people with political influence get whatever they need/want. That's not good for medicine or democracy as we're now finding out.

I concur with you. I guess I have always put it another way. I have always said... Since I am a Republican, how would I be treated under Obamacare vs a Democrat once it is in high gear? I am not convinced I would be treated fairly bc we live in the information age. My SS# is the key to them knowing my political party affiliation.

With the implementing of Obamacare, the government is no longer our servant-  instead, it will be our ruler!


I loved this question posed by Dr Wolf in the article. "If Obamacare is such a great law, why does the White House keep protecting its best friends from it?"

You, Dr. Wolf and I are thinking very similarly concerning this issue.

The funny part is this is finally getting mainstream play, hooray!

Obama himself before it was even past made it clear what his intent was:

obamacare For Thee, But Not For Me

The BOY KING is above that which is granted to the paupers.

Cowdude

Quote from: U_Kay on January 30, 2011, 06:57:06 PM
You, Dr. Wolf and I are thinking very similarly concerning this issue.

Too bad more people don't see that making medical care part of the political system politicizes medicine with everything that implies.

Maybe I'm being too pessimistic though. The widespread suspicion of Obamacare, part of what fueled the Repubs mid-term walk-over, has to be at least partly due to the realization, if not clearly stated realization, that the more the government's in charge of medicine the less the individual is.

Hmmm, I think the sun just came out....

Quote from: U_Kay on January 30, 2011, 06:57:06 PM
I concur with you. I guess I have always put it another way. I have always said... Since I am a Republican, how would I be treated under Obamacare vs a Democrat once it is in high gear? I am not convinced I would be treated fairly bc we live in the information age. My SS# is the key to them knowing my political party affiliation.

With the implementing of Obamacare, the government is no longer our servant-  instead, it will be our ruler!


I loved this question posed by Dr Wolf in the article. "If Obamacare is such a great law, why does the White House keep protecting its best friends from it?"

You, Dr. Wolf and I are thinking very similarly concerning this issue.

Good point, a scary one, but a good one indeed.
People don't realize, this is the era of instant information, nothing is private anymore.

Wait, am I not allowed to agree with you either? ;)

Quote from: Solar on January 31, 2011, 06:15:54 AM
Good point, a scary one, but a good one indeed.
People don't realize, this is the era of instant information, nothing is private anymore.

Wait, am I not allowed to agree with you either? ;)

Hmmmm....checking notes.  Ok found it, note #4 check with ST.   :D

Quote from: walkstall on January 31, 2011, 06:20:55 AM
Hmmmm....checking notes.  Ok found it, note #4 check with ST.   :D

I agree....
OOPS, do I need to ask Mrs Walks if I can agree with you? ;D

Quote from: Solar on January 31, 2011, 06:27:17 AM
I agree....
OOPS, do I need to ask Mrs Walks if I can agree with you? ;D

Hmmmm....Checking notes.  I will get back as I have a lot of notes from the good wife.   ;D   Then again she does think like a woman.   ;)

   What struck me right across the face...was the claim that the Service workers union spent 27,000,000 on obama campaign..WOW thats all members dues money.
   No secret I was a public employee and in the Police Union...The Police Benevolent Association <pba> but we never made any donations that I know of...we did endorse candidates Unions should be barred by law from making political contributions or funding attack ads.

Yeah, Solar, you can agree.  :D

Quote from: zip on January 31, 2011, 07:07:09 AM
   What struck me right across the face...was the claim that the Service workers union spent 27,000,000 on obama campaign..WOW thats all members dues money.
   No secret I was a public employee and in the Police Union...The Police Benevolent Association <pba> but we never made any donations that I know of...we did endorse candidates Unions should be barred by law from making political contributions or funding attack ads.

Zip (I like that cool name... Zip ((lol)) ) What I have read on different websites is that the ACORNS, SEIUs.... Obtained a lot of FREE Federal Monies. I consider the 27 million Taxpayer money that was given to them and then returned to their favorite candidate. In the end, it wasnt money that came from the members pockets.

Within an hour or so, a Federal Judge in Pensacola is to rule in FLorida on Obamacare!  This judge was appointed by Ronald Reagan! (I miss The Gipper too!)

@ Cowdude, thanks for that Obama reminder video. If memory serves, Obama went to to state some more about his grandmother and how she really wouldnt benefit bc of her situation. The Dr had asked him a more specific question and Obama tried to dodge it thru using the example of his grandmother.

Obama is the sharpest tool in the shed, huh? The MSM is trying to brainwash us to believe this.

(Did I sound facetious because I should have.)

PS... Elsie the cow pole dancing?? Dang!  :))