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Offline raptor5618

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What did Bush do to Powell
« on: January 15, 2013, 06:54:15 AM »
I saw some of the comments of Colin Powell about the Rep party and couple that with things he has said in the past, plus he voted for Obama and endorsed him too, I wonder what is he paying back for.   

I was totally against invading Iraq when we did so I remember CP's speech before the UN and knew that most of what he said was BS that had already been proven to be false.  For a long time I felt that Bush sacrificed CP in his determination to invade Iraq.  I know it was not for the reasons stated before the UN.  I will concede that there may have been a very good reason to invade, but I do not believe we have ever been told what that might be. 

My strongest conviction that weapons of mass destruction was not really the reason is not based on the fact we found none but when prewar reporting talked or showed our troops on the boarder of Iraq sitting close enough that they could see Iraqis soldiers on the other side of the border.  If they really believed that Iraq could unleash these weapons why would you make it so easy for them to do so preemptively?   

I think CP realizes that when he was sent to the UN any chance he had of become the 1st African American president evaporated.  Toss in that the war was conducted more like Viet Nam than the first war with Iraq and well any political ambitions he might have had were gone. 

So do you think he is attempting to pay back the party that ruined his career and reputation or and this just occurred to me, is he setting the table in case Kerry is not given the Sect of State.  It is a long shot that, that could happen but it costs him nothing to set himself up as the fall back position.

No matter what the reason is, I am amazed at how mute all the media is about how he can decry how racist the party is when he was able to reach very high rank in the military and then was selected as Sect of State by of all things the Rep party.  Seems he is a success story and not a story of a man held back because of racism. 


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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 07:25:39 AM »
I'm think that Powell always was a lib.

I don't think it has anything to do with Bush at all. He just wouldn't have been able to let his lib flag fly, and attain the positions within the military and the government, that he was able to.

Now that he's out, he can truly be himself, and come out of the closet.

A true conservative wouldn't be able to just become a lib for revenge; he's been a lib all along.

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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 07:45:54 AM »
I'm think that Powell always was a lib.

I don't think it has anything to do with Bush at all. He just wouldn't have been able to let his lib flag fly, and attain the positions within the military and the government, that he was able to.

Now that he's out, he can truly be himself, and come out of the closet.

A true conservative wouldn't be able to just become a lib for revenge; he's been a lib all along.

I agree. Poswell is a living example of the definition of RINO.
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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 10:24:10 AM »
Why not change parties then?  Not saying either of you are wrong as I can only guess and really have not followed his career and thought he sold out when he went to the UN so figured that was that for him.  But if you are indeed correct he really hid it well because I think that most that are labeled RINO have some conservative values.  He has to realize his comments are not words of advice but are indictments of the party and since they came from him they carry more weight.   I mean he knows that the common interpretation is that if an African American who was Sec of State in a Republican White House says that this is the truth about the party well then it must be true.   

Of course the far left already believes what he said and even if he said the exact opposite they would not change their view and those in the middle have to wonder what the hell he is saying.  I mean he achieved so much inside of the Rep party one has to ask what discrimination is he talking about.
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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 10:27:40 AM »
Yeh, he's just another Arlen Sphincter.  Only with a great military resume that gives him fake cred, that the leftists ride all the way to the bank.

I'm not sure how he himself benefits from pretending to be GOP......other than he probably comes from a conservative (military) background & family, and is too ashamed to come out of the closet as a leftist who dislikes America just as Obama & Co. do.

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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 10:42:07 AM »
I think that all makes sense, except I do not understand why he has not at least changed to an independent and made a conscious effort to make sure that everyone knew he is still a Rep.  Arlen changed in an attempt to keep his office and in my view is just a government leach that is willing to do what ever is necessary to keep that cushy job.  If you are a slime ball it is an easy job, just vote for whatever is going to serve your self interest the best.  No need to get passionate or upset because everything is just a facade to allow you to collect what ever you can through your position.  I have to think that a majority of the people in office there are not much better.   

It is few and far between that they go into office not a wealthy man and leave in about the same condition as they came in and only grew in wealth in an amount equal to what they are paid.   

Forget term limits. I say if they are in office, any money or investments they have go into a blind trust and no money can come his way other than his salary.  Any money he might make outside of the office has to go to charities that are again not under his control.   They go to office to serve the country and not to make themselves wealthy.  As I recall the founders felt that once you gained wealth you were in a sense obligated to do the best you could to serve your country.  They did not go there so that they could get a fat pension and make themselves rich. 
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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 10:50:29 AM »
Bush did nothing. Powell fell in love with picking up the NY Times in the morning, and reading them saying nice things about him. Think about the life of the average military officer; they spend most of their adult live in thankless service to their country, often making great sacrifices, often in almost total anonymity. The only the praise they ever receive is within their particular service, often no more than a: "good job" and a nice fitness report. Forty years or more of service to their country, and you wouldn't know them if you passed them on the street. Is it any surprise how he reacts to constant public praise? Must be as addictive as a drug.
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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 10:52:05 AM »
Why not change parties then?  Not saying either of you are wrong as I can only guess and really have not followed his career and thought he sold out when he went to the UN so figured that was that for him.  But if you are indeed correct he really hid it well because I think that most that are labeled RINO have some conservative values.  He has to realize his comments are not words of advice but are indictments of the party and since they came from him they carry more weight.   I mean he knows that the common interpretation is that if an African American who was Sec of State in a Republican White House says that this is the truth about the party well then it must be true.   

Of course the far left already believes what he said and even if he said the exact opposite they would not change their view and those in the middle have to wonder what the hell he is saying.  I mean he achieved so much inside of the Rep party one has to ask what discrimination is he talking about.
Powell is not African American, unless you consider Jamaica Africa.
Powell may claim Pub status, but his voting for a Marxist is proof he is anything but a Pub, his actions as well as words say he's a lib, but even many libs are abandoning the Dim party.

I wouldn't even call Powell a RINO, he's far worse.
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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 10:56:21 AM »
Why not change parties then?  Not saying either of you are wrong as I can only guess and really have not followed his career and thought he sold out when he went to the UN so figured that was that for him.  But if you are indeed correct he really hid it well because I think that most that are labeled RINO have some conservative values.  He has to realize his comments are not words of advice but are indictments of the party and since they came from him they carry more weight.   I mean he knows that the common interpretation is that if an African American who was Sec of State in a Republican White House says that this is the truth about the party well then it must be true.   

Of course the far left already believes what he said and even if he said the exact opposite they would not change their view and those in the middle have to wonder what the hell he is saying.  I mean he achieved so much inside of the Rep party one has to ask what discrimination is he talking about.

Powell is outside of politics, and is now a private citizen. I think everyone has doubts about someone that switches parties.

Which is going to get more attention, bang for the buck, and high priced speaking engagements?

A high profile republican that tells everyone how wonderful Obama is, or a turncoat that is now a registered democrat, doing the same thing?

This has probably been discussed within the administration and the dem party. If that's the case, it would probably also have been determined that Powell would be more effective by sticking to his republican roots. It packs a much better punch.

Powell made his way to where he got in the Bush administration, because he is a self centered political opportunist; ironically that is also the definition of a liberal.

He may well have become disillusioned with the republican party; most of us have. But by openly backing Obama, he has shown that he also thinks nothing of the country, or the constitution.

I really hate to say that about a military man, but unfortunately, his actions warrant it.................much like John Kerry.
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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 11:52:05 AM »
There's one other very good reason for Powell not to switch parties.......

If obama taps him for a position in his administration, he would be able say that he is reaching across the aisle. Much like his choice of Hagel for defense.

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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 01:25:58 PM »
Talks about the GOP being racist yet he owes his career to white republicans...


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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 01:38:20 PM »
Talks about the GOP being racist yet he owes his career to white republicans...

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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 03:20:33 PM »
I agree. Poswell is a living example of the definition of RINO.

If Powell had showed his true liberal colors earlier in his career he wouldn't be no four star general today. It was all political!
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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2013, 03:36:54 PM »
I'm think that Powell always was a lib.

I don't think it has anything to do with Bush at all. He just wouldn't have been able to let his lib flag fly, and attain the positions within the military and the government, that he was able to.

Now that he's out, he can truly be himself, and come out of the closet.A true conservative wouldn't be able to just become a lib for revenge; he's been a lib all along.


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Re: What did Bush do to Powell
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 07:02:27 PM »
I think this "feud" between W and Colin Powell is largely a product of the MSM's active imagination. If Powell were really upset about being "used" by the Bush Administration to provide a "false" excuse for the invasion of Iraq, he wouldn't have stayed on until the end of Bush's 1st term.

He would have either resigned as soon as it was obvious that no WMDs were found or, if he really wanted to get back at Bush, he could have resigned during the height of the 2004 election!

No, I believe that Bush and Powell are pretty much Project for a New American Century type Republicans who are seriously into use of the U.S. military for "nation building". It is pretty obvious that neither one is a Conservative.

I also don't think that Bush, or Powell, or, really, anybody of any importance knew that Saddam Hussein was playing a WMD version of Texas Hold 'em! Like it or not, the only way to find out that he was bluffing was to call him on it, and that is just what W and Colin Powell did.

It's not their fault that Hussein was just holding a pair of deuces!

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