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What's WRONG with Conservatives?
« on: May 08, 2017, 02:54:46 PM »
Just had to take a look at a website I useto visit... it looked good for awhile, but has been decending into an aimless morass of indecision, finger pointing and just flat-lining... IMO.   

A bit of comparison, Liberals become Socialists who become Communists who become either cannon fodder or Tyrants.

Conservatives become RINOs, who become useless, pension collecting altar boys for Liberalism.  (like that Quiller?)

If you were asked to name 3 Constitutional Conservatives, leading this country back to the founding fathers' vision - without apology, and unwavering... who would they be?

Mark Levin, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz top my list.

Name a 3 more...   up & coming Conservatives DON'T COUNT - they haven't been tested, they haven't the track record of L-E-A-D-E-R-S-H-I-P.

If I was a senator, or representative, it's hardly "leadership" to go along and "vote".   Liberals do that, just as well - sort of like falling-into-line down the "Road To Serfdom" - the erosion of our liberty.

Look at this latest Obamacare repeal nonsense.   We can't just repeal it...?!?!?   No.. we need to leave the foundation of "entitlements" it in place, so when the Democrats resume contol they can cement it forever into the US economy - like Social Security.  They bitch and squeal about any changes, just repeal it.   Quit the double-talk, and do it... show a little backbone, some leadership, please!

The Democrat road map ends with Communist Tyranny.   We *know* where they want to take us, after they've taken away our defenses, property and devalued the money.   They want us 100% dependent on the centralized DC government.... we *know* that, right?

Hearing Chuck Shumer get irrational on the radio - isn't costing him any support, he might be gaining support - because he's proving he's a fighter, the liberal champion.
Where's our Senator, going toe-to-toe with the Liberal champion, answering charge with at least equal vigor & passion, "Chuck, people are ALREADY dying because they can't afford your lousy Obamacare!   If it's so good, why did YOU exempt yourself from it?"   Paint them as the elitist snobs they are, and keep painting them as the filthy rich who don't give a damn about America - drunk with power and trying to grab more.   Where is the Conservative cry that government run healthcare is not constitutional?   -crickets-

I for one... and really TIRED of hearing commercials, and seeing my Email in-box flooded with appeals for money - knowning it's probably about another "yesman" (a staffer penned the appeal), begging to fund their effort to 'get to DC' ... etc., etc.  A couple of times, I've said outloud, ".. you must think I'm stupid.." before I hit the delete button.

If I were a Democrat, "... you know I'm stupid, easily driven by emotion.."   :ttoung:

A leader makes a voice for themselves.   They are not afraid to make a mistake, but run on Constitutional principles - not try to reinvent or reinterpret the Constitution.   I doubt many of  these "elected conservatives" have ever read it.
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Re: What's WRONG with Conservatives?
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2017, 04:12:16 PM »
Perhaps the real question is becoming WHERE are the conservatives?

In the Senate we have; Cruz, Lee, Sassee and Paul. So out of 100 senators 4 are true conservatives or perhaps a better term would be constitutional conservatives.

In the House, we have; Jordan, Massie, Amash, Meadows, Gohmert, Palmer (maybe a few others), so out of 435 representatives we have roughly 6 true conservatives.

Out of 535 members of Congress we have 10 elected officials that are worth a damn ... I'll add in a few for the benefit of not being familiar with a few.  Let's call it an even dozen!

As for the media ... we have Beck and Levin.

We have roughly 14 conservatives working for us.  14.  Think about it.  Where are all the conservatives?
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Re: What's WRONG with Conservatives?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2017, 08:50:51 AM »
Just had to take a look at a website I useto visit... it looked good for awhile, but has been decending into an aimless morass of indecision, finger pointing and just flat-lining... IMO.   

A bit of comparison, Liberals become Socialists who become Communists who become either cannon fodder or Tyrants.

Conservatives become RINOs, who become useless, pension collecting altar boys for Liberalism.  (like that Quiller?)

If you were asked to name 3 Constitutional Conservatives, leading this country back to the founding fathers' vision - without apology, and unwavering... who would they be?

Mark Levin, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz top my list.

Name a 3 more...   up & coming Conservatives DON'T COUNT - they haven't been tested, they haven't the track record of L-E-A-D-E-R-S-H-I-P.

If I was a senator, or representative, it's hardly "leadership" to go along and "vote".   Liberals do that, just as well - sort of like falling-into-line down the "Road To Serfdom" - the erosion of our liberty.

Look at this latest Obamacare repeal nonsense.   We can't just repeal it...?!?!?   No.. we need to leave the foundation of "entitlements" it in place, so when the Democrats resume contol they can cement it forever into the US economy - like Social Security.  They bitch and squeal about any changes, just repeal it.   Quit the double-talk, and do it... show a little backbone, some leadership, please!

The Democrat road map ends with Communist Tyranny.   We *know* where they want to take us, after they've taken away our defenses, property and devalued the money.   They want us 100% dependent on the centralized DC government.... we *know* that, right?

Hearing Chuck Shumer get irrational on the radio - isn't costing him any support, he might be gaining support - because he's proving he's a fighter, the liberal champion.
Where's our Senator, going toe-to-toe with the Liberal champion, answering charge with at least equal vigor & passion, "Chuck, people are ALREADY dying because they can't afford your lousy Obamacare!   If it's so good, why did YOU exempt yourself from it?"   Paint them as the elitist snobs they are, and keep painting them as the filthy rich who don't give a damn about America - drunk with power and trying to grab more.   Where is the Conservative cry that government run healthcare is not constitutional?   -crickets-

I for one... and really TIRED of hearing commercials, and seeing my Email in-box flooded with appeals for money - knowning it's probably about another "yesman" (a staffer penned the appeal), begging to fund their effort to 'get to DC' ... etc., etc.  A couple of times, I've said outloud, ".. you must think I'm stupid.." before I hit the delete button.

If I were a Democrat, "... you know I'm stupid, easily driven by emotion.."   :ttoung:

A leader makes a voice for themselves.   They are not afraid to make a mistake, but run on Constitutional principles - not try to reinvent or reinterpret the Constitution.   I doubt many of  these "elected conservatives" have ever read it.

As I've related many times here, the word "conservstive" has lost its meaning.

In my travels around the internet I've met many people who claim to be conservative, yet defend socialist values. Now when someone tells me they're a conservative, I think, conservative what? As often they men they're conservative socialist or conservative marxist.

I know, it seems like a contradiction, but I've alway thought of it as more of tactical play than taking them literally.


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Re: What's WRONG with Conservatives?
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2017, 05:19:44 PM »
As I've related many times here, the word "conservstive" has lost its meaning.
claim to be
In my travels around the internet I've met many people who conservative, yet defend socialist values. Now when someone tells me they're a conservative, I think, conservative what? As often they men they're conservative socialist or conservative marxist.

I know, it seems like a contradiction, but I've alway thought of it as more of tactical play than taking them literally.

I've met, in person, some real winners, conservatives collecting every entitlement, benefit, taking ever handout - and demanding more.
Still need their VOTES....

Constitutional Conservative Leadership is -thin- compared to Democrats.
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Re: What's WRONG with Conservatives?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2017, 09:04:33 AM »
This is from 2008, before Hussein the Magnificent became our reason to hate politics. It's a balanced look at differences between conservatives and liberals. Topics include: Immigration, the Supreme Court, murdering infants in the womb, taxes, Islamic terrorism and religion.

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Core Conservative Belief:  While America has flaws, we are proud of her, since we believe that the American system and American values are the best human systems of governance yet created.

Progressive Belief:  America is an imperialist bully that seeks to destroy non-white people, whether within or outside of America.  Her power must be reined in at all costs.
 

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/10/core_conservative_beliefs.html

 

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