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Offline CubaLibre

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Re: Wealth Inequality?
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2012, 12:48:55 PM »
Exactly CL, and with half the country now on the side of socialism, it won't be all that long before there is 60%.
I am normally an optimist, but the realist sees the obvious in our situation.
Fact is, conservatives are older and die off faster than young brainwashed minds are created, it's an uphill battle.

Outside of revolution, I just don't see us returning to a more sensible time.
Maybe it's time to go "John Galt", so to speak. I've been doing some thinking and reading about individual secession, and it makes more sense given the circumstances.

If the productive citizens reduced their tax contributions (by working "under the table" for example), the parasitic class of government would run out of money. I know it smacks of leftist tactics, but it's worked for them.  :unsure:

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Re: Wealth Inequality?
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2012, 12:55:10 PM »
Maybe it's time to go "John Galt", so to speak. I've been doing some thinking and reading about individual secession, and it makes more sense given the circumstances.

If the productive citizens reduced their tax contributions (by working "under the table" for example), the parasitic class of government would run out of money. I know it smacks of leftist tactics, but it's worked for them.  :unsure:

You can do that and also get unemployment checks at the same time.  I think for 18 months of so.
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2012, 01:50:04 PM »
You can do that and also get unemployment checks at the same time.  I think for 18 months of so.
The system is insane. And people in other countries are coached on how to get on the dole. You have immigrants getting on disability within a year.

The government doesn't care, just raise taxes, borrow money from China, and if all else fails, print.  :cursing:

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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2012, 02:02:50 PM »
Maybe it's time to go "John Galt", so to speak. I've been doing some thinking and reading about individual secession, and it makes more sense given the circumstances.

If the productive citizens reduced their tax contributions (by working "under the table" for example), the parasitic class of government would run out of money. I know it smacks of leftist tactics, but it's worked for them.  :unsure:
Not that I have been doing it for the last 25 years, mind you. I would never do that to Calif. :rolleyes:

This state doesn't respect it's taxpayers, why should we respect them?
Same goes for the FED.

I've decided to stay in Ca and watch it fold like a house of cards.

We, those of us old enough to have experienced the real America, will also be around for what ever it becomes, good or bad, were seeing history unfold before our very eyes.
Be it revolution, or an upwelling in the form of a tax revolt, it's going to be an interesting next few decades. :smile:
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2012, 05:01:35 PM »
Finally got to see the movie version of Atlas Shrugged (Part1). When one considers it was made well before the recent election started to gear up, and it's set in the world of 2016, the depiction of the filthy politics in Washington (dirty is just not a strong enough word), is right on! The further I got into the movie, the more I realized, this is what is happening to our country as we speak (or type, if you will).

The only thing I can add to what has already been said is...

Who is John Galt?

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« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2012, 07:14:00 PM »

Who is John Galt?


IMO, a filthy rich person that's tired of living like a rich person in a world that is largely poor so he/she/it leaves the known world to be without "regulation" and "taxation".
To put it mildly, John Galt is an jaggoff that just cant deal, even with super rich means, in a world that requires cigarette companies to not lie, car companies not pollute, and oil rigs not spill.

John Galt is a greedy, selfish,  turn coat.

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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2012, 07:23:23 PM »

IMO, a filthy rich person that's tired of living like a rich person in a world that is largely poor so he/she/it leaves the known world to be without "regulation" and "taxation".
To put it mildly, John Galt is an jaggoff that just cant deal, even with super rich means, in a world that requires cigarette companies to not lie, car companies not pollute, and oil rigs not spill.

John Galt is a greedy, selfish,  turn coat.
And yet, in our statist society, cigarette companies continue to lie, car companies continue to pollute, and oil rigs continue to spill. Talk about a failed investment...

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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2012, 07:40:14 PM »

IMO, a filthy rich person that's tired of living like a rich person in a world that is largely poor so he/she/it leaves the known world to be without "regulation" and "taxation".
To put it mildly, John Galt is an jaggoff that just cant deal, even with super rich means, in a world that requires cigarette companies to not lie, car companies not pollute, and oil rigs not spill.

John Galt is a greedy, selfish,  turn coat.
I take it you've never seen the movie, let alone read the book?
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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2012, 08:22:49 PM »
Finally got to see the movie version of Atlas Shrugged (Part1). When one considers it was made well before the recent election started to gear up, and it's set in the world of 2016, the depiction of the filthy politics in Washington (dirty is just not a strong enough word), is right on! The further I got into the movie, the more I realized, this is what is happening to our country as we speak (or type, if you will).

The only thing I can add to what has already been said is...

Who is John Galt?

We're really close to that world now.  We'll be there in 2016.  It's not an America I want to be a part of.  My America died at the turn of the century.

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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2012, 12:40:52 AM »
I left this sort of garbage 30 years ago And now it is happening here? Are we stupid? Blind? WTF...


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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2012, 06:01:41 AM »
I left this sort of garbage 30 years ago And now it is happening here? Are we stupid? Blind? WTF...
It's proof that liberals have no relation where past and present connect.
They can't make the connection that socialism means giving more power to the state and a loss of freedoms, they don't realize not only does it cost more in the form of taxes, it means more intrusions into your personal life.

Could it have something to do with parents being involved in every aspect of their lives, from soccer mom seeing that their every waking moment be occupied with an activity, out of guilt that her career was more important than staying at home with the kids?
That having someone telling them what to do, how to act, that Big Brother is always there to see to your every need, that when they finally leave the house, they like the feeling of an overbearing Govt, because it reminds them of their screwed up childhood.

When I grew up, I went to school, when I'd get home, mom would kick me out of the house till dinner, then back outside.
When weekend came around, I was out the door till dark, unless I was staying with friends or camping out, but freedom was what I learned, pure independence, self reliance.

Today kids lives are regulated 24hrs a day......
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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2012, 06:43:50 AM »
It's proof that liberals have no relation where past and present connect.
They can't make the connection that socialism means giving more power to the state and a loss of freedoms, they don't realize not only does it cost more in the form of taxes, it means more intrusions into your personal life.

Could it have something to do with parents being involved in every aspect of their lives, from soccer mom seeing that their every waking moment be occupied with an activity, out of guilt that her career was more important than staying at home with the kids?
That having someone telling them what to do, how to act, that Big Brother is always there to see to your every need, that when they finally leave the house, they like the feeling of an overbearing Govt, because it reminds them of their screwed up childhood.

When I grew up, I went to school, when I'd get home, mom would kick me out of the house till dinner, then back outside.
When weekend came around, I was out the door till dark, unless I was staying with friends or camping out, but freedom was what I learned, pure independence, self reliance.

Today kids lives are regulated 24hrs a day......

So true.

When I was a kid, my parents wanted me out of their hair and not bugging them. The feeling was mutual.
I feel the same about government. Too bad they don't see it that way. :angry:

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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2012, 06:53:40 AM »
So true.

When I was a kid, my parents wanted me out of their hair and not bugging them. The feeling was mutual.
I feel the same about government. Too bad they don't see it that way. :angry:

I really do wonder if there is correlation, and if there is, the next generation will be kids used to being on camera and RFID tags from school monitoring them 24 hrs a day.
The idea horrifies the Hell out of me, but these kids will see life no differently under Marxism.
That is a scary thought....
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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2012, 07:36:37 AM »
I really do wonder if there is correlation, and if there is, the next generation will be kids used to being on camera and RFID tags from school monitoring them 24 hrs a day.
The idea horrifies the Hell out of me, but these kids will see life no differently under Marxism.
That is a scary thought....

There's lots of scary things going on. Liberals are creeping into the churches and Christian private schools too...........the next frontier.

Did you listen to Rush yesterday? An idea is reemerging that was floated in 2008. It involves turning over 401K accounts to the government, for a guaranteed 3% return when you retire. :scared:

Now lets see................
Social security was supposed to be a trust account, and the government wasn't supposed to touch it. Well, they spent the hell out of it. Now they want our 401K's. Over my dead body.

There is currently $11 trillion invested in private 401K accounts. Hell yeah, they'd like to get their hands on it.

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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2012, 08:00:33 AM »
I take it you've never seen the movie, let alone read the book?

Obviously not! :laugh:

(After all, the book doesn't have any pictures, and the movie doesn't have macho body builders running around with machine guns and RPGs killing anything that moves!)


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