They didn't include spraying for bedbugs, loss of work from violent crime, etc...

http://www.youngcons.com/new-report-shows-how-much-money-taxpayers-save-when-illegal-households-are-deported/

A long time friend from CA was visiting us recently and the subject of illegals came up. I mentioned the drain on the tax payers with illegals receiving EBT, medical care etc and he claimed that they don't receive that in CA! 

I suggested he check the facts, but that fell on deaf ears.

Quote from: tac on August 26, 2015, 07:47:05 AM
A long time friend from CA was visiting us recently and the subject of illegals came up. I mentioned the drain on the tax payers with illegals receiving EBT, medical care etc and he claimed that they don't receive that in CA! 

I suggested he check the facts, but that fell on deaf ears.

Your friend is an idiot, they've been receiving all of that for more than 40 years.

Quote from: Solar on August 26, 2015, 07:59:08 AM
Your friend is an idiot, they've been receiving all of that for more than 40 years.

I do not disagree with you. That's the problem with the left, head in the sand.

Quote from: tac on August 26, 2015, 08:06:21 AM
I do not disagree with you. That's the problem with the left, head in the sand.

That's a good description, there's a lot of them with their head in the sand out here.

I read somewhere recently some moronic leftist Pol was saying how much Illegals are paying in taxes. SOmething like illegals contribute 13 Billion a year in taxes....The rest of the story is they cost the taxpayer and ESTIMATEd 100 Billion a year.

We're short by 87 Billion

I know they have been getting all of that government support in Washington for many years.  Nobody even checks.  They have under the table jobs.  Two to three families in a home making lots of money off of the government.

Since we have an army and a number of police Departments, why don't we start rounding up and deporting anyone that isn't an American citizen or here legally. Since no one is allowed to profit from criminal activity (like illegal entry); we should confiscate EVERYTHING they have. Send them home with the shirts on their back and nothing else. If they self deport, they can take their stuff.

Quote from: mdgiles on August 27, 2015, 06:44:47 AM
Since we have an army and a number of police Departments, why don't we start rounding up and deporting anyone that isn't an American citizen or here legally. Since no one is allowed to profit from criminal activity (like illegal entry); we should confiscate EVERYTHING they have. Send them home with the shirts on their back and nothing else. If they self deport, they can take their stuff.

Your common sense is not welcomed in Washington. Just enforcing existing laws would create a massive self deportation migration.

Quote from: Solar on August 26, 2015, 07:59:08 AM
Your friend is an idiot, they've been receiving all of that for more than 40 years.

Huntington Park is allowing two illegals to be elected to their town counsels.
That state is so ethically bankrupt. If it were up to me, Id revoke their statehood and reorganize the territory from the ground up, perhaps break it up into two North and South states like the Carolinas and Dakotas. After I Andrew Jackson every illegal down to Tijuana, and as a Cherokee descendent, I dont use that analogy likely, but in this instance I find it appropriate.

Quote from: Ulsterking on August 27, 2015, 08:17:51 AM
Huntington Park is allowing two illegals to be elected to their town counsels.
That state is so ethically bankrupt. If it were up to me, Id revoke their statehood and reorganize the territory from the ground up, perhaps break it up into two North and South states like the Carolinas and Dakotas. After I Andrew Jackson every illegal down to Tijuana, and as a Cherokee descendent, I dont use that analogy likely, but in this instance I find it appropriate.

Actually they're being appointed, but then, that's splitting hairs, right?
I get your point, it's akin to the 7th Circut giving illegals Rights not granted in the Constitution, akin to giving every felon a weapon as they leave incarceration.

There is no sanity in this nation anymore, the left has managed to flip reality on it's end.
Sadly, Ca needs to be split East to West, leaving the coastline to live in it's own squallor. As a Native Californian, I watched a beautiful Conservative state become corrupted by Marxists and greedy RINO, as time went by, it was an even split between North and South, South being the liberal hub, while SF leaned Libertarian.

That all changed in the mid 60s, when SF was literally taken over by communists because of Libertarians "Live, Let Live" BS and it never recovered.
This may sound horrible, but I hope I live to see the day the San Andreas fault splits the State, or the State goes bankrupt, no particular order.
It's the only way to repair the State, by destroying it first. What the Hell, it's already destroyed anyway.

Solar, I have frequently had the same feelings with regard to the San Andreas fault..... I want to live long enough to see it!! 

Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2015, 09:12:18 AM
Actually they're being appointed, but then, that's splitting hairs, right?
I get your point, it's akin to the 7th Circut giving illegals Rights not granted in the Constitution, akin to giving every felon a weapon as they leave incarceration.

There is no sanity in this nation anymore, the left has managed to flip reality on it's end.
Sadly, Ca needs to be split East to West, leaving the coastline to live in it's own squallor. As a Native Californian, I watched a beautiful Conservative state become corrupted by Marxists and greedy RINO, as time went by, it was an even split between North and South, South being the liberal hub, while SF leaned Libertarian.

That all changed in the mid 60s, when SF was literally taken over by communists because of Libertarians "Live, Let Live" BS and it never recovered.
This may sound horrible, but I hope I live to see the day the San Andreas fault splits the State, or the State goes bankrupt, no particular order.
It's the only way to repair the State, by destroying it first. What the Hell, it's already destroyed anyway.

It is sad that an area as beautiful as the Bay Area is inhabited by so many lefty loons.

Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2015, 09:12:18 AM
There is no sanity in this nation anymore, the left has managed to flip reality on it's end.
Sadly, Ca needs to be split East to West, leaving the coastline to live in it's own squallor. As a Native Californian, I watched a beautiful Conservative state become corrupted by Marxists and greedy RINO, as time went by, it was an even split between North and South, South being the liberal hub, while SF leaned Libertarian.

That all changed in the mid 60s, when SF was literally taken over by communists because of Libertarians "Live, Let Live" BS and it never recovered.
This may sound horrible, but I hope I live to see the day the San Andreas fault splits the State, or the State goes bankrupt, no particular order.
It's the only way to repair the State, by destroying it first. What the Hell, it's already destroyed anyway.

The 1986 alien amnesty was the final nail in the California Republican coffin. Once the Ds got their claws into those illegals and got them into the system, they got an unmatched voter base, and the evolution of the sanctuary cities began.
Arizona or New Mexico try to pass laws to address their illegal alien problem, BAM, they get shot down, but Cali gets to give the finger to federal law in regards to giving succor to what are basically invading colonists, and get a pass.
I dont know how a major San Andreas shift will affect you Solar, and I certainly dont wish you ill, but I think the sooner 1906 2.0 can happen the better.

Quote from: Ulsterking on August 27, 2015, 02:25:55 PM
The 1986 alien amnesty was the final nail in the California Republican coffin. Once the Ds got their claws into those illegals and got them into the system, they got an unmatched voter base, and the evolution of the sanctuary cities began.
Arizona or New Mexico try to pass laws to address their illegal alien problem, BAM, they get shot down, but Cali gets to give the finger to federal law in regards to giving succor to what are basically invading colonists, and get a pass.
I dont know how a major San Andreas shift will affect you Solar, and I certainly dont wish you ill, but I think the sooner 1906 2.0 can happen the better.

Yep, 1906 for starters.
I live in the Sierra wilderness, about 3000' above the cesspit below, "when" it finally occurs, it'll be a 20 mile drive to the beach, right now it's 100 miles+.