US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore

Started by walkstall, August 20, 2017, 06:15:18 PM

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Ms.Independence

Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2017, 07:53:12 AM
The Navy for all intents and purposes made the Captain and crew the scapegoat.
Captain relieved of command and crew reprimanded for dereliction of duty.

If you're familiar with Military protocol, this is equivalent to not dotting an I, or crossing a T, wearing a hat backwards is construed 'Out of Uniform, getting a 'sunburn' constitutes destruction of military property and carries fines and or punishment, or both.
Point being, the Navy hung it's Sailors out to dry.

I have absolutely no knowledge of military protocol; thanks for the info.
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Solar

Quote from: Ms.Independence on August 21, 2017, 09:55:44 AM
I have absolutely no knowledge of military protocol; thanks for the info.
Yeah, Military rules are designed to be either extremely lenient or harshly abusive, all by design, so as to allow the commander in the field ability to play judge, jury or hangman if necessary.
Or, as in the case of the Fitzgerald, play politics with the enlisted and scapegoat them. The Pentagon has proven recently it does not have the best interests of those serving, in mind, rather use them as a social experiment.
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Ms.Independence

Seems that this has been buried; I wonder what's happened to the investigation(s).

This is the last bit of info I could quickly find:

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/08/23/why-navy-ships-colliding-pacific-experts-weigh-in.html
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Solar

Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 26, 2017, 04:40:01 PM
Seems that this has been buried; I wonder what's happened to the investigation(s).

This is the last bit of info I could quickly find:

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/08/23/why-navy-ships-colliding-pacific-experts-weigh-in.html
Yeah, I've been watching for anything about the collisions, but the Pentagon went mum on the issue.
In your article, I saw two things of notability.

QuoteThe Strait of Malacca where the McCain had just transited through en route to Singapore before colliding with a Liberian-flagged tanker Monday morning, is the most highly-trafficked strait in the world, Hendrix noted. The volume of traffic, he said, added to the complexity of moving through the narrow strait.

Would it not be prudent to have a watch change aboard every hour or so?

QuotePacFleet had its last SWO commander, Adm. Gary Roughead, from 2005-2007; the 7th Fleet saw its last SWO commander, Vice Adm. William Crowder, from 2006-2008.

Isn't this when the Marxist was purging the military of its top rank command? Or in this case, not fill the position?
Could all of this have to do with Obozo's gutting of the military?
Nothing else makes sense.
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With regard to the McCain, what I would give for a legible nautical chart of the area of the collision. Everyone agrees there was a steering failure aboard the McCain, but I have not read the details of this steering failure (It makes a difference). Was dropping anchor feasible in this situation? It will all come out.

Ms.Independence

Quote from: Solar on September 26, 2017, 05:34:03 PM
Yeah, I've been watching for anything about the collisions, but the Pentagon went mum on the issue.


Silence usually indicates some sort of cover up.  Perhaps we'll never know the truth.
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