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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 06:22:18 PM »
McCain always finds a way to interfere.


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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2017, 07:08:12 PM »
10 Sailors Missing After USS John S. McCain Collides With Merchant Ship.

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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2017, 07:32:10 PM »
A tanker? WTF Is going on? Tankers don't just up and turn on a dime, it's why tugs are used when they near a port.
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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2017, 08:17:00 PM »
A tanker? WTF Is going on? Tankers don't just up and turn on a dime, it's why tugs are used when they near a port.

That's what I was thinking. Not to mention the captain of the ship usually has to hand controls over to a local when entering a port. Someone who knows the local waters. We call them bay pilots in Baltimore.


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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2017, 08:30:03 PM »
That's what I was thinking. Not to mention the captain of the ship usually has to hand controls over to a local when entering a port. Someone who knows the local waters. We call them bay pilots in Baltimore.
It would appear the Navy owns this one. Kind of like getting run over by a tortoise while jogging.
Or drown by rising seas caused by Gores global warming.
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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2017, 08:40:15 PM »
It would appear the Navy owns this one. Kind of like getting run over by a tortoise while jogging.
Or drown by rising seas caused by Gores global warming.


Makes you wonder  if someone (like say china) is running some kind of jamming tech dissabling our ships ability to see.

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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 08:51:18 PM »

Makes you wonder  if someone (like say china) is running some kind of jamming tech dissabling our ships ability to see.
Unless it was zero visibility fog, there's just no excuse with all the tech gear we have, from sonar, radar, eyes on deck etc.
This one doesn't look good for the Navy. I could be wrong, but a Tanker?
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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2017, 09:30:07 PM »
It would appear the Navy owns this one. Kind of like getting run over by a tortoise while jogging.
Or drown by rising seas caused by Gores global warming.

LOL

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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2017, 02:10:45 AM »

Makes you wonder  if someone (like say china) is running some kind of jamming tech dissabling our ships ability to see.


Plausible indeed.
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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 05:27:11 AM »

Plausible indeed.

Yeah - makes no sense. There are too many crew on a US ship to have another "sneak" up on them by accident. Such accidents aren't common for normal ships on the ocean. They are more common on rivers where barges / tugs are undermanned and crossing on narrow passages.

Accidents are more common in more congested areas - ports. But with all the crew and precautions, collision with a US Naval ship seems unlikely.

Something seems amiss.

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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 06:15:26 AM »
If China had such a weapon, why would they tip their hand to us?
Would it not be more effective to have a ship run aground on a reef, or maybe hit China's new island in the South China Sea where the embarrassing act was caught on video?
Point is, why let your enemy know you have such a weapon, knowing full well we would counter the weapon in no time and turn it against them.

No, I hate to say it, but here's something far more plausible. Those serving aboard this ship aren't what most would consider the cream of the crop, simply because no one wants to serve aboard a ship named after an American traitor, possibly a dumping ground for the under achiever of the Navy. 
I would hope I'm wrong, but I know if I was in the Navy and having to serve aboard this ship, I'd do everything in my power to get the Hell off.
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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2017, 07:00:55 AM »
That's what I was thinking. Not to mention the captain of the ship usually has to hand controls over to a local when entering a port. Someone who knows the local waters. We call them bay pilots in Baltimore.

Yes, similar to having to have a Great Lakes captain on board before entering the Great Lakes.

So...what ever happened to the investigation earlier of the container ship and the Fitzgerald?
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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2017, 07:53:12 AM »
Yes, similar to having to have a Great Lakes captain on board before entering the Great Lakes.

So...what ever happened to the investigation earlier of the container ship and the Fitzgerald?
The Navy for all intents and purposes made the Captain and crew the scapegoat.
Captain relieved of command and crew reprimanded for dereliction of duty.

If you're familiar with Military protocol, this is equivalent to not dotting an I, or crossing a T, wearing a hat backwards is construed 'Out of Uniform, getting a 'sunburn' constitutes destruction of military property and carries fines and or punishment, or both.
Point being, the Navy hung it's Sailors out to dry.
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Re: US Navy destroyer and merchant ship collide near Singapore
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2017, 08:45:17 AM »
Yeah - makes no sense. There are too many crew on a US ship to have another "sneak" up on them by accident. Such accidents aren't common for normal ships on the ocean. They are more common on rivers where barges / tugs are undermanned and crossing on narrow passages.

Accidents are more common in more congested areas - ports. But with all the crew and precautions, collision with a US Naval ship seems unlikely.

Something seems amiss.


I was a ground pounder and avoided the squids, so I don;t know much about Navy SOP...but I think they used to or still have a "live watch"....are they now depending totally on electronics or do they still have "eyes on" as they should?
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