For those who are interested in foreign politics, I must raise some public awareness. Presidential elections in Serbia have been scheduled for April 2nd, and these are probably the most unfair elections we have had so far, for various reasons. The main candidate is the current Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić. Why he has chosen to become the President for the next ten years, when the President has only a formal role, probably because he wants to distant himself from the responsibility for the bad political and economic situation in the country, while still pulling the strings from behind the curtains. That way, he could be placing his puppets in the position of the Prime Minister, and criticize them like everything is their fault and not his, while he himself still playing the good guy.
But some background first, who is Aleksandar Vučić? He begun his political career in the early 1990s in the Serbian Radical Party, lead by the Hague Tribunal indictee Vojislav Šešelj, and often labeled in the mass media as far right nationalist extremists. He was the Minister of Information during the NATO bombing of Serbia in 1999 in the government of Slobodan Milošević. I have joined his Serbian Radical Party from 2000 to 2005, after the collapse of the regime of the President Slobodan Milošević, because I have believed the newly established "democratic" regime was far worse. Aleksandar Vučić seemed to me as a smart, educated, honest, and perspective young politician. I have attended some political meetings and rallies with him when we were in the same room, but never met him in person, although I have made friends with some of his close friends. In one occasion, I almost got arrested by the newly established "democratic" government, when the police were chasing us on the streets during the night for pasting the posters for the Serbian Radical Party. What a disgrace that he is now in the coalition with the same "democratic" politicians that attempted to arrest me once for supporting him. What a shame for me, I feel so guilty I believed in him, I believed in his Serbian Radical Party, and allowed them to fool me and use my free ideological labour for wrong purposes. He now has his own Serbian Progressive Party, but his former Serbian Radical Party is supporting him, although playing the opposition at the same time. I have witnessed and learned they are all just liars, crooks, and traitors, interested only in money and power.
When Aleksandar Vučić begun his political career, he needed to borrow a suit because he didn't have any, while now he wears the most expensive suits and golden watches, owns apartments, houses, and private businesses. How come that, not from the salary. In 2008, he left his former Serbian Radical Party in order to form a new Serbian Progressive Party, backed by George Soros from the very beginning in order to be placed on power. His coalition won both presidential and parliamentary elections in 2012, making him the Prime Minister. Now, he is doing the completely opposite of what he had been doing in the beginning, he has suddenly turned from a far right nationalist extremist to a progressive liberal democrat. He is the first politician on power to allow the gay pride parade. He is the first one to factually recognize the independence of Kosovo. He has allowed NATO troops to move across the country freely and with no obligations. He advocates for the GMO. He has raised our national debt for 10 billion EUR, from 15 billion in 2012 to 25 billion in 2016. He is a true economic hit man. His purpose is to put us into more debts, while taking his commission fee in percents. He is also an actual gay, and an actual bastard, since his true father was an Albanian journalist, and these facts could explain why he hates his Serbian people this much, and probably hates the life itself.
Why are these presidential elections the most unfair of all so far? President Milošević was a kind of a commie dictator during the 1990s, but he controlled only few main TV and radio stations and newspapers, while there were dozens of oppositional TV and radio stations and newspapers. But now, Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić is in personal control of everything. Can you imagine like every 10-15 minutes of every news on every television is: "Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić did this or said that." I just can't watch the TV for months in order not to get insane. They have shortened the period for the presidential campaign to the least legally possible of one month. The period for the candidates to gather and validate the needed 10,000 signatures was only ten days. The rule for validating of the signatures was changed the day before the elections were scheduled. Before, the voters needed to validate their signatures for their chosen candidates in the courts, but now they needed to validate their signatures with private notaries who were appointed by the executive government. The number of notaries is only 162, not even one for each of 180 municipalities, and the first days they were all busy validating the signatures for the main political parties in power, while still doing their regular job as a notary for other different purposes. The oppositional and independent candidates got only 5-6 days, and having like only 2-3 hours a day with a notary, which was not enough time for most of them to organize more than 10,000 of their supporters to come and validate their signatures. Everything was set up this way intentionally in order that only the candidates allowed by the regime could enter the elections. The session of the parliament was paused during the elections period, in order that no oppositional voices could be heard. The members of the Serbian Progressive Party are being blackmailed to collect at least ten secured votes, that means to provide the proof they have persuaded at least ten other people to vote for the regime, or otherwise they will lose their jobs. And the elections will be rigged as usual, with hundred of thousands of dead people voting, and the results being changed, with no public access to ballots allowed. I know we are the land of vampires, but how come that the vampires always unanimously vote for the regime, that doesn't look legit. The most shocking thing of all is that the statesmen like Vladimir Putin and Orbán Viktor have provided official support to Aleksandar Vučić, although they are pretending of being against Soros.
Here is Aleksandar Vučić giving his official support to Hillary Clinton just before the American presidential elections, and giving 2 million EUR of other people's money to the Clinton Foundation. Aleksandar Vučić had previously appointed Tony Blair as his counselor, and now he is Bill Clinton's official bitch. We call him The Pussy-Mouth for the obvious reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxJZBF4DJ4c
One of the independent candidates I was considering voting for is Danielle Sremac. She was born in Belgrade, Serbia, her family moved to the United States when she was six, she has dual Serbian-American citizenship, she was the legal representative of the Bosnian Serbs in America during the 1990s, she is the founder and the president of the Serbian Institute in Washington DC, and she is a supporter of the Republican Party. She had 17,200 people who called her to give their signature, much more than the needed 10,000, but she faced obstruction from the most of the notaries, they refused to schedule meeting with her supporters to validate their signatures, or gave them just a little time, so she was forced to give up her presidential candidature. But she promised that she would bring this issue to the United States Congress, since she is also an American citizen. I hope she will keep her promise, and that this disgraceful political situation will come up to a public debate.
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Quote from: milos on March 16, 2017, 02:50:06 AM
... he wants to distance himself from the responsibility for the bad political and economic situation in the country, while still pulling the strings from behind the curtains. That way, he could be placing his puppets in the position of the Prime Minister, and criticize them like everything is their fault and not his, while he himself still playing the good guy.
You just described Obama!
Quote from: milos on March 16, 2017, 02:50:06 AM
The most shocking thing of all is that the statesmen like Vladimir Putin and Orbán Viktor have provided official support to Aleksandar Vučić, although they are pretending of being against Soros.
That is
really puzzling, since the war in Ukraine is between Putin/Russia and Soros/NATO.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/ukraine/
Maybe it's another of those fake conflicts, a Hegelian dialectic,
an excuse for Russia and NATO to
pretend to be fighting each other,
when both are really working together to beat down Ukraine for being too independent minded.
Quote from: je_freedom on March 16, 2017, 08:01:50 AM
You just described Obama!
Yes, I have always been trying to point out that there is a real conspiracy, and there are politicians who are being instructed to destroy their own countries for money, that is why Obama was intentionally putting America into more debts. And once the debts become unpayable, the creditors demand to take your land and your liberty instead. Greece is the best example of such an intentionally created debt disaster, and now they are literally selling their land to the creditors. The Greeks could have lived pretty well on tourism and agriculture and fish and shipbuilding industry, there was no real need for them to come into debts. But you are probably being aware of this already.
Quote from: je_freedom on March 16, 2017, 08:34:45 AM
That is really puzzling, since the war in Ukraine is between Putin/Russia and Soros/NATO.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/ukraine/
Maybe it's another of those fake conflicts, a Hegelian dialectic,
an excuse for Russia and NATO to pretend to be fighting each other,
when both are really working together to beat down Ukraine for being too independent minded.
Yes, you are right that the Ukrainians and Ukraine are the greatest victim of both Russia and NATO, both of them doesn't care a bit for the liberty of the Ukrainian people that is for sure. Every war is being created for the war profiteers. Since the war in Ukraine begun, Ukrainians needed to spend huge amount of money for new weapons, and ammunition, and fuel, and the like. Someone is earning great money supplying them with all of these, and so why would they want to end that war then, when they can get rich on that war?
Both Putin and Orban have forbidden George Soros's NGOs in their countries as far as I know, but they don't implement the same standards for their foreign politics. For example, Russian official attitude towards the Soros's Muslim migrant crisis in Europe is that the Europeans have deserved it for exploiting Asia and Africa, which basically means that Russia supports Soros in destroying of Europe. Russia doesn't care, because the more weakened Europe is, the more they will ask for the Russian help in the future. And to be honest, I believe that America also shares similar position towards Europe - the more weakened Europe is, the more they will ask for the American help in the future.
Quote from: milos on March 17, 2017, 09:01:32 AM
Yes, I have always been trying to point out that there is a real conspiracy, and there are politicians who are being instructed to destroy their own countries for money, that is why Obama was intentionally putting America into more debts. And once the debts become unpayable, the creditors demand to take your land and your liberty instead. Greece is the best example of such an intentionally created debt disaster, and now they are literally selling their land to the creditors. The Greeks could have lived pretty well on tourism and agriculture and fish and shipbuilding industry, there was no real need for them to come into debts. But you are probably being aware of this already.
Yes, you are right that the Ukrainians and Ukraine are the greatest victim of both Russia and NATO, both of them doesn't care a bit for the liberty of the Ukrainian people that is for sure. Every war is being created for the war profiteers. Since the war in Ukraine begun, Ukrainians needed to spend huge amount of money for new weapons, and ammunition, and fuel, and the like. Someone is earning great money supplying them with all of these, and so why would they want to end that war then, when they can get rich on that war?
Both Putin and Orban have forbidden George Soros's NGOs in their countries as far as I know, but they don't implement the same standards for their foreign politics. For example, Russian official attitude towards the Soros's Muslim migrant crisis in Europe is that the Europeans have deserved it for exploiting Asia and Africa, which basically means that Russia supports Soros in destroying of Europe. Russia doesn't care, because the more weakened Europe is, the more they will ask for the Russian help in the future. And to be honest, I believe that America also shares similar position towards Europe - the more weakened Europe is, the more they will ask for the American help in the future.
Thank you for this information! I knew that Bammy was out to destroy this country, I just didn't know exactly why ... with the information you provided, I can now connect more of the dots!
Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 17, 2017, 01:08:12 PM
Thank you for this information! I knew that Bammy was out to destroy this country, I just didn't know exactly why ... with the information you provided, I can now connect more of the dots!
He's a communist Muscum, that's all anyone needs to know. Hell, he even told the world he would fundamentally change America, and it wasn't meant for the better.
Quote from: Solar on March 17, 2017, 02:32:55 PM
He's a communist Muscum, that's all anyone needs to know. Hell, he even told the world he would fundamentally change America, and it wasn't meant for the better.
Yes I get that. What I continue to question is we had 535 members of Congress that made little attempt to stop him. Why? Yes, I get we have a lot of liberal idiots in Congress ... but surely even they could see he was out to destroy this country and they let him. Are they all also on Soros' payroll? Do they honestly think their lifestyles will remain the same once this country falls? I would think at that point, they would be pretty much useless.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 18, 2017, 06:28:58 AM
Yes I get that. What I continue to question is we had 535 members of Congress that made little attempt to stop him. Why? Yes, I get we have a lot of liberal idiots in Congress ... but surely even they could see he was out to destroy this country and they let him. Are they all also on Soros' payroll? Do they honestly think their lifestyles will remain the same once this country falls? I would think at that point, they would be pretty much useless.
That's an easy answer, the GOP is packed full of Marxists as well.
Not you perse', but for those reading this, a Marxist no longer dress in Naru jackets or dawn Che' T-shirts and caps, they wear suits and American flag lapel pins and lie to get elected to the GOP.
Quote from: Solar on March 18, 2017, 06:37:30 AM
That's an easy answer, the GOP is packed full of Marxists as well.
Not you perse', but for those reading this, a Marxist no longer dress in Naru jackets or dawn Che' T-shirts and caps, they wear suits and American flag lapel pins and lie to get elected to the GOP.
Yes, I understand that and perhaps I not understanding Marxism ... but if they allow this country to fall, will they not also fall right along with her? Won't most of them become irrelevant and dispensable as their purpose in the grand scheme of things have been fulfilled? Would they retain their status and wealth?
Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 18, 2017, 06:48:47 AM
Yes, I understand that and perhaps I not understanding Marxism ... but if they allow this country to fall, will they not also fall right along with her? Won't most of them become irrelevant and dispensable as their purpose in the grand scheme of things have been fulfilled? Would they retain their status and wealth?
Yes, they are on Soros' payroll. Indirectly, but yes.
They THINK they'll keep their privileged status.
Maybe they will, maybe not.
Socialists have a history of killing their closest supporters
once they get absolute power.
They kill the ones they think are shrewd enough to try to become top dog.
Sorry to bother you with this again, but for the sake of public. As expected, after the alleged victory of the current Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić in the presidential elections, young people have spontaneously gathered in Belgrade to demand repeal of the elections for being extremely undemocratic. Yes, this should have been done before the elections, but it is difficult to take people to the streets when there is no an actual event to trigger them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1SHxktz-R0
You should not compare this protest to the "Trump not my president" protests, because you can't even imagine how much unfair and irregular these elections were. There was only a period of one month allowed for the campaign. There was a new law invented that only the private notaries appointed by the government were allowed to validate the signatures needed for the presidential candidature, instead of the courts as it was before. The medias were closed for the oppositional candidates, current Prime Minister got 92% of the coverage, while the rest ten candidates got only 8% altogether. There was no presidential debate. The ongoing session of the parliament was paused in order that no oppositional voices could be heard. The regime blackmailed all people employed in the public services and their families to vote for them, in order not to get fired from their jobs. The regime was literally buying voters for the sum of around 15 EUR. In rural areas, there were people placed by the regime to vote for Aleksandar Vučić on behalf of the actual voters. They were also adding thousands of ballots themselves. Thousands of dead people also voted. Etc, the list of irregularities is too large.
I am writing this basically for the purpose to say Merkel is a whore, Orban is a whore, Putin is a whore, because they provided open support to Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić before the elections. I am just hoping that Trump will not join them and be a whore like themselves. During the 1990s, we had a classical communist dictator Slobodan Milošević, but he didn't work for George Soros, and so the whole world knew he was a dictator. But now, we have many times worse dictator Aleksandar Vučić who is working for George Soros, and now nobody cares he is a dictator. That is the fairness of the mass media. He wants us to believe that he is good both with the West and the East, but of course they just have some criminal deal with him.
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What I am being afraid of is that this thug and his rigged elections will be given the support by Merkel and Putin, as the crooked organization called OSCE already said everything was ok, and that we are doomed. They will just turn the things upside down as they usually do and proclaim the protesters traitors who want to destabilize the country. Also there is a possibility that Soros will take over the control of the protests. I don't know, it seems that the only way we can change things is an uprising or a revolution. The political mafia has money, medias, rifles, tanks, we only got internet and streets.
Quote from: milos on April 04, 2017, 01:04:09 AM
Sorry to bother you with this again, but for the sake of public. As expected, after the alleged victory of the current Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić in the presidential elections, young people have spontaneously gathered in Belgrade to demand repeal of the elections for being extremely undemocratic. Yes, this should have been done before the elections, but it is difficult to take people to the streets when there is no an actual event to trigger them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1SHxktz-R0
You should not compare this protest to the "Trump not my president" protests, because you can't even imagine how much unfair and irregular these elections were. There was only a period of one month allowed for the campaign. There was a new law invented that only the private notaries appointed by the government were allowed to validate the signatures needed for the presidential candidature, instead of the courts as it was before. The medias were closed for the oppositional candidates, current Prime Minister got 92% of the coverage, while the rest ten candidates got only 8% altogether. There was no presidential debate. The ongoing session of the parliament was paused in order that no oppositional voices could be heard. The regime blackmailed all people employed in the public services and their families to vote for them, in order not to get fired from their jobs. The regime was literally buying voters for the sum of around 15 EUR. In rural areas, there were people placed by the regime to vote for Aleksandar Vučić on behalf of the actual voters. They were also adding thousands of ballots themselves. Thousands of dead people also voted. Etc, the list of irregularities is too large.
I am writing this basically for the purpose to say Merkel is a whore, Orban is a whore, Putin is a whore, because they provided open support to Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić before the elections. I am just hoping that Trump will not join them and be a whore like themselves. During the 1990s, we had a classical communist dictator Slobodan Milošević, but he didn't work for George Soros, and so the whole world knew he was a dictator. But now, we have many times worse dictator Aleksandar Vučić who is working for George Soros, and now nobody cares he is a dictator. That is the fairness of the mass media. He wants us to believe that he is good both with the West and the East, but of course they just have some criminal deal with him.
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What I am being afraid of is that this thug and his rigged elections will be given the support by Merkel and Putin, as the crooked organization called OSCE already said everything was ok, and that we are doomed. They will just turn the things upside down as they usually do and proclaim the protesters traitors who want to destabilize the country. Also there is a possibility that Soros will take over the control of the protests. I don't know, it seems that the only way we can change things is an uprising or a revolution. The political mafia has money, medias, rifles, tanks, we only got internet and streets.
Sounds like an Obama dream system.
Quote from: milos on April 04, 2017, 01:04:09 AM
What I am being afraid of is that this thug and his rigged elections will be given the support by Merkel and Putin, as the crooked organization called OSCE already said everything was ok, and that we are doomed. They will just turn the things upside down as they usually do and proclaim the protesters traitors who want to destabilize the country.
Don't forget the United Nations.
This election is about as legitimate as many of the governments that are members of the U.N.
In fact, this sort of thing seems to be the ticket for admission.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 04, 2017, 04:54:01 AM
Sounds like an Obama dream system.
They certainly have the same advisors.
Quote from: je_freedom on April 04, 2017, 08:05:25 PM
Don't forget the United Nations.
This election is about as legitimate as many of the governments that are members of the U.N.
In fact, this sort of thing seems to be the ticket for admission.
Yeah, the more a politician is crooked, the more likely he/she will achieve a higher position. That is even expected in the system which is based on bribe and blackmail.
I don't know, is there any country in the world, in which you are being blackmailed to vote for the regime, and then to make a photo of your ballot and ID card as the proof, in order not to be fired from your job? Like this leaked example. And then, they claim their election victory was legal and legitimate, and Merkel and Putin congratulate them for this. And when you protest for this on the streets, they call you a traitor who wants to destabilize the country.
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I am aware I can't change anything, but when you are getting raped, your duty is to say "no" and call for help at least.
Quote from: milos on April 05, 2017, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 04, 2017, 04:54:01 AM
Quote from: je_freedom on April 04, 2017, 08:05:25 PM
On this forum, the admins request that,
when replying to two separate posts,
you should post two separate replies.
(I've been similarly admonished. I'm just passing it on.)
Quote from: je_freedom on April 05, 2017, 05:30:19 PM
On this forum, the admins request that,
when replying to two separate posts,
you should post two separate replies.
(I've been similarly admonished. I'm just passing it on.)
Thank you, I didn't know for that. I usually quote everything in one message in order to save the space and not to post multiple replies.
Yesterday was the best protest so far, because it was organized by one military and one police trade union. They are already protesting for months themselves, because of the bad conditions they work in, corruption, and low salaries. The regime claims that George Soros stands behind these protests, but it is kind of funny, because the regime itself works for Soros. If Soros was really behind this, we would have seen major TV stations, like CNN and BBC, massively reporting on this. The motto was: "Army, people, and police united.", which was cool. The regime claimed there were 2,000 hooligans protesting, the organizers claim there were 80,000 people, but I belive realistically there were probably around 20,000. I found this on some Iranian TV station, which is currently the only foreign television that I found to provide some full report, with an analyst from New York, who spoke briefly, but was spot on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VhKiCrUvNs
And now, from what I have learned, it was actually the regime itself who started this protest. They wanted to gather few students over Facebook, and create some little noise, just to make fun of the people who are unsatisfied, and with a classical commie-style anti-propaganda, they have photographed some of the students who were carrying beer bottles in their hands, to claim that drunken hooligans are protesting on the streets. But, there has been some real response so far, with tens of thousands of true protesters. There are two rival groups right now who are struggling to take the lead, one is nationalist, and the other is communist that works for Soros. We shall see who will prevail. Soros might want to incite war between the protesters in order to divide them and turn against each other. Lol, I am writing this so they know they can't fool us.
I feel pity for Mr. Putin, I hoped he was on our side. He probably calculated that the current Prime Minister and President Elect, Aleksandar Vučić, will be able to keep the control over the country for the next two five-year presidential terms, by media lies, fear, bribe, and blackmail. I hope we shall prove him the opposite. Vučić is currently the most hated person in Serbia. I mean, he needed to drive busses with same supporters all over the country, because nobody wanted to rally for him, and then he won 55% support in the elections, sure. And he is not eligible for the president for many reasons. He is not Vučić at all, because his biological father is an Albanian journalist, Fahri Musliu, who openly advocates for independent Kosovo. Vučić destroys our economy on purpose, and here is what he does. He borrows the money from the IMF. Then, he subsidizes foreign companies to come and pay their workers from that borrowed money, while they are taking all of their profit out of our country. That way, more jobs mean just more debts and less wealth, every foreign company which opens their business here makes us just more poor. But his propaganda claims that he is bringing foreign investors and creating jobs. Also, he, his brother Andrej, and his godfather, are on the head of the real mafia. For example, there is a gold and copper mine called Bor, and it works with losses. I mean, can you imagine a gold mine working with losses? But each of the Vučić brothers is stealing 5 million EUR every month from the mine, and therefore the losses. When Mr. Rockefeller learned about this, he died of the shock. And this is just one snowflake on the top of the iceberg. Vučić brothers are doing money laundering of billions of stolen EUR by means of the constructional project called "Belgrade Waterfront", and they use some Arab company as the cover, claiming those Arabs are investing. He is not eligible for the presidency, but rather for several life terms in the jail.
I have spoken about Danielle Sremac in my original post, and we have finally got some reaction from her. She has posted an open letter to President Trump today, it is something for the start. I sincerely hope she will be able to bring this issue to the Congress.
PRESS RELEASE
Washington, DC, April 17, 2017
As 100,000 people protest in the streets against Serbia's President Vucic, we ask President Trump not to support election fraud in Serbia
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Dear President Trump,
I just returned from Serbia where 100,000 students and people are protesting in the streets of the nation's capital, Belgrade, as well as throughout Serbia, to show their discontent with the current government of Alexander Vucic who in addition to being Prime Minister and head of secret police has now also declared himself President. The protests reflect years of frustration that people have felt, and unless rampant corruption, controlled media, and monopolized economy are ended in Serbia, I am afraid the situation will bring great instability to this part of Europe.
The lack of a legitimacy as a democratically elected President of Serbia also brings into question the legality of any documents Vucic may sign on behalf of the Serbian nation — regarding EU or agreements on Kosovo.
Realizing that progress will only happen when the right person gets into the Serbian government who is not dependent on local corruption, I decided to run for President in recent elections as an American and Serbian citizen. By doing so, I had direct experience with the political situation in Serbia which sadly demonstrated a complete lack democratic process, controlled media, corruption, and political manipulation — all of which supports the dictatorial one-party system headed by Alexander Vucic and his SNS party.
Complete letter in the link.
http://www.buducnost-srbije.com/index_PRESS_RELEASE.htm (http://www.buducnost-srbije.com/index_PRESS_RELEASE.htm)
Quote from: milos on April 17, 2017, 12:00:22 PM
I have spoken about Danielle Sremac in my original post, and we have finally got some reaction from her. She has posted an open letter to President Trump today, it is something for the start. I sincerely hope she will be able to bring this issue to the Congress.
PRESS RELEASE
Washington, DC, April 17, 2017
As 100,000 people protest in the streets against Serbia's President Vucic, we ask President Trump not to support election fraud in Serbia
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Dear President Trump,
I just returned from Serbia where 100,000 students and people are protesting in the streets of the nation's capital, Belgrade, as well as throughout Serbia, to show their discontent with the current government of Alexander Vucic who in addition to being Prime Minister and head of secret police has now also declared himself President. The protests reflect years of frustration that people have felt, and unless rampant corruption, controlled media, and monopolized economy are ended in Serbia, I am afraid the situation will bring great instability to this part of Europe.
The lack of a legitimacy as a democratically elected President of Serbia also brings into question the legality of any documents Vucic may sign on behalf of the Serbian nation — regarding EU or agreements on Kosovo.
Realizing that progress will only happen when the right person gets into the Serbian government who is not dependent on local corruption, I decided to run for President in recent elections as an American and Serbian citizen. By doing so, I had direct experience with the political situation in Serbia which sadly demonstrated a complete lack democratic process, controlled media, corruption, and political manipulation — all of which supports the dictatorial one-party system headed by Alexander Vucic and his SNS party.
Complete letter in the link.
http://www.buducnost-srbije.com/index_PRESS_RELEASE.htm (http://www.buducnost-srbije.com/index_PRESS_RELEASE.htm)
This why President Trump is pressing the EU to step up and uphold their responsibilities in their neighborhood. Quite frankly, the US has its hands full with NK, Russia and ME. I certainly agree that we do not need to repeat the failures of the past in that part of Europe.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 17, 2017, 12:20:05 PM
This why President Trump is pressing the EU to step up and uphold their responsibilities in their neighborhood. Quite frankly, the US has its hands full with NK, Russia and ME. I certainly agree that we do not need to repeat the failures of the past in that part of Europe.
Absolutely agree! The players you just mentioned would like nothing more than to have the field muddied by another player, because anyone entering the game at this point, only does damage to plans already in the works.
I'm halfway expecting to see another shoe drop, perhaps a terrorist attack here in the US.
It's the way Marxists play the game, just keep moving the goal posts, drop into a Mexican standoff from the ceiling, or enter from a fire exit as a way to create another front.
Point being, when they realize they are about to lose, they throw in a serious distraction, one generally designed to play on the emotions and fears/anger of the populace, and God knows, the media is always there to help out the poor leftist, never the US.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 17, 2017, 12:20:05 PM
This why President Trump is pressing the EU to step up and uphold their responsibilities in their neighborhood. Quite frankly, the US has its hands full with NK, Russia and ME. I certainly agree that we do not need to repeat the failures of the past in that part of Europe.
Yes, this is probably more of a job for the EU. But EU leadership is treacherous to Europe, that is the problem. Also, another problem is that Soros and Clintons are still holding the American influence in Europe in their hands, and Trump unfortunately seems not interested in Europe at this moment. There are still Obama's ambassadors in European countries who are still following Obama's directions, for example. We just want to warn Trump on time, until the situation escalates in some awful way.
For example, if Erdogan releases 3 million of Muslim fundamentalists into Europe, they will need to go over Serbian territory, and so we are the ones who are to stop them or to let them pass. That is probably one of the reasons that politicians like Merkel, Putin, and Erdogan, want to have someone in the power in Serbia who will be cooperative with them and follow their instructions. If we had some patriotic government, then Erdogan and Putin couldn't have been blackmailing EU with 3 million of Muslim migrants in Turkey.
Quote from: milos on April 17, 2017, 12:00:22 PM
As 100,000 people protest in the streets against Serbia's President Vucic, we ask President Trump not to support election fraud in Serbia
I was thinking of buying some Prvi Partizan ammo,
but I guess I won't, now.
Quote from: je_freedom on April 19, 2017, 07:39:12 PM
I was thinking of buying some Prvi Partizan ammo,
but I guess I won't, now.
I'm very confused when it comes to Serbian politics.
But not when it comes to Prvi Partizan ammo.
BUY IT.
Quote from: Rotwang on April 23, 2017, 08:55:04 PM
I'm very confused when it comes to Serbian politics.
But not when it comes to Prvi Partizan ammo.
BUY IT.
Prvi Partizan makes good ammo for a good price,
but so do many other companies.
For example, there's Armscor,
which is based in the Philippines,
but also just built a factory in Montana.
Quote from: Rotwang on April 23, 2017, 08:55:04 PM
I'm very confused when it comes to Serbian politics.
That's why I'm here, lol, better listen to me than to the mass media. :wink: Feeling now like a native English speaker asks me "How are you?" just to say "hello", and I actually start explaining. :smile: But I feel it's my duty not to leave anyone confused. So here we go. :cool:
Our main enemies have always been the Vatican, the Muslim fundamentalism, and the British diplomacy. Vatican is trying to convert us from Orthodoxy to Catholicism. Muslim Turks had conquered us for more than four centuries. And British diplomacy wants to destroy us completely, because they see us as a natural Russian ally in the Balkans. While I can understand Vatican and Muslims, I can't understand the hate of the British foreign politics towards us, because it is merely irrational and based on their insecurities. If they don't want us to be a Russian ally, then we could certainly have some deal, for example to be neutral.
Do we have some friends, um, I don't know, probably our only true friend is Romania. We are very similar, basically the same people, they are our only neighbor we have never had a war against, nor it would be ever imaginable. Is Russia our friend, um, I would rather say no, in spite of the popular myth of "Mother Russia". They have always been trying to make us their puppets, and pretty much unsuccessfully. The only time they had actually helped us was in the WWI, when they truly saved us from extinction.
If we speak of the time from 1990 after the communism, we have had a classical commie dictator Slobodan Milošević, who didn't want to understand the changes that the fall of the communism had brought to the World. He lost the support of the majority during the mid 1990s, but he kept rigging the elections in his favor, until the 2000 when he couldn't do it anymore. Then a wide national coalition from the far left to the center and the far right of the political spectrum came on power, but after a few months, those of them who worked for Soros took the lead, and we got screwed by them even more than we were under Milošević. Current Prime Minister and President Elect, Aleksandar Vučić, is the peak of the political ugliness, he pretends to be a patriot, while he is the worst traitor, his rule is being based on lies, corruption, criminal, threats, fear, bribe, and blackmail, and he leads us to a certain annihilation, by instructions and advices of Tony Blair, which just prooves the constant desires of the British diplomacy towards us.
During the 1990s, we have been labeled as genocidal extremists, while the truth is completely opposite, we are the most tolerant people in the Balkans. The war of 1990s in the Balkans was created by the military and police and intelligence generals who were of communist and Yugoslav orientation, and who despised all of the different nations of Yugoslavia equally. And they are still on power in Serbia behind the scenes. Common people were certainly against the war. Both Russia and America are our natural allies, Russia because we are both Orthodox Christian and Slavic peoples, and America because we share the same passion for freedom and independence. That is why I hate to see America and Russia in confrontation against each other.
Hope this helped. :wink:
Quote from: Rotwang on April 23, 2017, 08:55:04 PM
But not when it comes to Prvi Partizan ammo.
BUY IT.
:thumbup:
Quote from: milos on April 24, 2017, 02:40:23 AM
During the 1990s, we have been labeled as genocidal extremists, while the truth is completely opposite, we are the most tolerant people in the Balkans. The war of 1990s in the Balkans was created by the military and police and intelligence generals who were of communist and Yugoslav orientation, and who despised all of the different nations of Yugoslavia equally. And they are still on power in Serbia behind the scenes. Common people were certainly against the war. Both Russia and America are our natural allies, Russia because we are both Orthodox Christian and Slavic peoples, and America because we share the same passion for freedom and independence. That is why I hate to see America and Russia in confrontation against each other.
The Clinton regime used an alleged incident as an excuse to bomb Serbia.
It was alleged that Serbian soldiers had massacred civilians in a certain village.
The reality was that Muslim soldiers in uniform had attacked Serbian troops,
who acted in their own defense.
After the battle, Muslims put civilian clothes on the dead bodies.
The bullet holes in the clothing did not match the wounds of the bodies
on which they were placed.
But pictures of the "Serbian atrocity" were broadcast to the world,
and the global ruling clique had their excuse
to bomb Serbian independence into the dust.
All the countries of the former Yugoslavia now only appear to be independent.
They are all enslaved to the international banksters through debt.
That was the entire purpose of the wars of the 1990s -
operatives sent by the banksters provoked everyone to attack everyone
to destroy all the property of all of the countries
so that the banksters could "rescue" them
by LOANING them money to rebuild their countries.
Quote from: je_freedom on April 24, 2017, 02:20:43 PM
The Clinton regime used an alleged incident as an excuse to bomb Serbia.
It was alleged that Serbian soldiers had massacred civilians in a certain village.
The reality was that Muslim soldiers in uniform had attacked Serbian troops,
who acted in their own defense.
After the battle, Muslims put civilian clothes on the dead bodies.
The bullet holes in the clothing did not match the wounds of the bodies
on which they were placed.
But pictures of the "Serbian atrocity" were broadcast to the world,
and the global ruling clique had their excuse
to bomb Serbian independence into the dust.
All the countries of the former Yugoslavia now only appear to be independent.
They are all enslaved to the international banksters through debt.
That was the entire purpose of the wars of the 1990s -
operatives sent by the banksters provoked everyone to attack everyone
to destroy all the property of all of the countries
so that the banksters could "rescue" them
by LOANING them money to rebuild their countries.
Wow, you know it, you have truly amazed me. I wish there had been the Internet and this level of knowledge back then in the 1990s.
Speaking of President Milošević, an interesting fact is that he was a bankster too, and he was in America on some kind of education before he took the power in Serbia in 1987. That is why some claim he was an American spy. He definitely was an American ally during his first years of reign, during Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush. He helped Romanians overthrow Chaushesku in 1989, and the operation was actually held from Serbia by the US agents, Serbian TV was broadcasting the revolution in Romania to the World, and was the first one to broadcast the footage of the killing of the Chaushesku couple. At that time, we have been working on developing of a new military fighter jet of 4th generation together with the French, which should have been a lighter and cheaper version of the French Dassault Rafale fighter jet. We were about to produce a new military trainer jet for the USAF, our G-4 Super Galeb, a group of American pilots came to test it, and they were more than satisfied with its performances. But then something happened, and all of these projects were terminated, some of our generals just cancelled everything. From 1991, Milošević begun fearing that he will finish like Chaushesku in Romania, and so he established his dictatorship to keep himself on power. Did he learn that America wanted to replace him, or was it an influence of the Russian intelligence, or some criminal domestic generals, who probably worked for the British intelligence, had misinformed him, I don't know. When Bill Clinton came into the White House in 1993, the situation got even worse. Milošević's wife, Mira Marković, was a hardcore Yugoslav communist, and the leader of the Yugoslav United Left political party (JUL), which mostly consisted of agents and spies for various intelligence services, foreign and domestic, predominantly controlled by the British intelligence. After losing the power in 2000, she has escaped to Russia with a certain sum of money, some claim she took 4 billion EUR, and is now living in an elite Moscow suburb, buying the freedom for her and her criminal son by our people's money.
Quote from: milos on April 25, 2017, 12:55:25 AM
Wow, you know it, you have truly amazed me. I wish there had been the Internet and this level of knowledge back then in the 1990s.
Speaking of President Milošević, an interesting fact is that he was a bankster too, and he was in America on some kind of education before he took the power in Serbia in 1987. That is why some claim he was an American spy. He definitely was an American ally during his first years of reign, during Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush. He helped Romanians overthrow Chaushesku in 1989, and the operation was actually held from Serbia by the US agents, Serbian TV was broadcasting the revolution in Romania to the World, and was the first one to broadcast the footage of the killing of the Chaushesku couple. At that time, we have been working on developing of a new military fighter jet of 4th generation together with the French, which should have been a lighter and cheaper version of the French Dassault Rafale fighter jet. We were about to produce a new military trainer jet for the USAF, our G-4 Super Galeb, a group of American pilots came to test it, and they were more than satisfied with its performances. But then something happened, and all of these projects were terminated, some of our generals just cancelled everything. From 1991, Milošević begun fearing that he will finish like Chaushesku in Romania, and so he established his dictatorship to keep himself on power. Did he learn that America wanted to replace him, or was it an influence of the Russian intelligence, or some criminal domestic generals, who probably worked for the British intelligence, had misinformed him, I don't know. When Bill Clinton came into the White House in 1993, the situation got even worse. Milošević's wife, Mira Marković, was a hardcore Yugoslav communist, and the leader of the Yugoslav United Left political party (JUL), which mostly consisted of agents and spies for various intelligence services, foreign and domestic, predominantly controlled by the British intelligence. After losing the power in 2000, she has escaped to Russia with a certain sum of money, some claim she took 4 billion EUR, and is now living in an elite Moscow suburb, buying the freedom for her and her criminal son by our people's money.
We all knew it, just couldn't voice an opinion.
Everyone knew we were attacking the wrong enemy. Nothing has been right since the first Bush took office.
Quote from: Solar on April 25, 2017, 07:07:19 AM
We all knew it, just couldn't voice an opinion.
Everyone knew we were attacking the wrong enemy. Nothing has been right since the first Bush took office.
When I look back, 1989 was so optimistic, and 1991 was like hell. Something has changed overnight, and it seems so weird. It appears that "someone" had decided that we should be playing the bad guys, and that was it, which is pretty weird, because we generally don't have what it takes for a bad guy, although you can always find some criminals who are willing to do a crime for a sum of money. Look at the Srebrenica massacre in 1995 for example. From what I have learned, some Serbian criminals were paid to shoot 484 Bosnian Muslim prisoners of war. It is difficult to understand who had ordered such a crime, many wanted it, Bosnian Muslim leadership wanted it, also those Yugoslav communist generals wanted it, so to blame Serbian nationalists and fake a genocide. After the crime, Muslims were bringing dead Muslim bodies from all over Bosnia, burying them around Srebrenica, and excavating them later, claiming that there were more than 8,000 Muslim people killed in that town, and that it was a Christian genocide over Muslims. We have had those Yugoslav communist generals leading us intentionally into a defeat, and they are still destroying us by controlling our politics behind the scenes, and placing their children and proteges into political power. It is very difficult for the common people to get rid of them, because they are keeping all of the instruments of power in their hands. They print the national currency, and can bribe people. They control the media. They are the head of the mafia, they have their criminals in the military and the police and the juridical system working for them. They will fool you by their double-tongued political candidates, and this current creep Aleksandar Vučić is one of them. It is just so humiliating how they have planned in advance to rig the elections in the way that he shall win 55% of the votes, because for example 51% would have looked too suspicios did he truly won the majority in the first round, and 59% would have looked too obvious that the elections were rigged. And he is laughing in our faces, and we can do nothing, because he has the international support.
Quote from: milos on March 16, 2017, 02:50:06 AM
For those who are interested in foreign politics, I must raise some public awareness. Presidential elections in Serbia have been scheduled for April 2nd, and these are probably the most unfair elections we have had so far, for various reasons. The main candidate is the current Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić. Why he has chosen to become the President for the next ten years, when the President has only a formal role, probably because he wants to distant himself from the responsibility for the bad political and economic situation in the country, while still pulling the strings from behind the curtains. That way, he could be placing his puppets in the position of the Prime Minister, and criticize them like everything is their fault and not his, while he himself still playing the good guy.
But some background first, who is Aleksandar Vučić? He begun his political career in the early 1990s in the Serbian Radical Party, lead by the Hague Tribunal indictee Vojislav Šešelj, and often labeled in the mass media as far right nationalist extremists. He was the Minister of Information during the NATO bombing of Serbia in 1999 in the government of Slobodan Milošević. I have joined his Serbian Radical Party from 2000 to 2005, after the collapse of the regime of the President Slobodan Milošević, because I have believed the newly established "democratic" regime was far worse. Aleksandar Vučić seemed to me as a smart, educated, honest, and perspective young politician. I have attended some political meetings and rallies with him when we were in the same room, but never met him in person, although I have made friends with some of his close friends. In one occasion, I almost got arrested by the newly established "democratic" government, when the police were chasing us on the streets during the night for pasting the posters for the Serbian Radical Party. What a disgrace that he is now in the coalition with the same "democratic" politicians that attempted to arrest me once for supporting him. What a shame for me, I feel so guilty I believed in him, I believed in his Serbian Radical Party, and allowed them to fool me and use my free ideological labour for wrong purposes. He now has his own Serbian Progressive Party, but his former Serbian Radical Party is supporting him, although playing the opposition at the same time. I have witnessed and learned they are all just liars, crooks, and traitors, interested only in money and power.
When Aleksandar Vučić begun his political career, he needed to borrow a suit because he didn't have any, while now he wears the most expensive suits and golden watches, owns apartments, houses, and private businesses. How come that, not from the salary. In 2008, he left his former Serbian Radical Party in order to form a new Serbian Progressive Party, backed by George Soros from the very beginning in order to be placed on power. His coalition won both presidential and parliamentary elections in 2012, making him the Prime Minister. Now, he is doing the completely opposite of what he had been doing in the beginning, he has suddenly turned from a far right nationalist extremist to a progressive liberal democrat. He is the first politician on power to allow the gay pride parade. He is the first one to factually recognize the independence of Kosovo. He has allowed NATO troops to move across the country freely and with no obligations. He advocates for the GMO. He has raised our national debt for 10 billion EUR, from 15 billion in 2012 to 25 billion in 2016. He is a true economic hit man. His purpose is to put us into more debts, while taking his commission fee in percents. He is also an actual gay, and an actual bastard, since his true father was an Albanian journalist, and these facts could explain why he hates his Serbian people this much, and probably hates the life itself.
Why are these presidential elections the most unfair of all so far? President Milošević was a kind of a commie dictator during the 1990s, but he controlled only few main TV and radio stations and newspapers, while there were dozens of oppositional TV and radio stations and newspapers. But now, Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić is in personal control of everything. Can you imagine like every 10-15 minutes of every news on every television is: "Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić did this or said that." I just can't watch the TV for months in order not to get insane. They have shortened the period for the presidential campaign to the least legally possible of one month. The period for the candidates to gather and validate the needed 10,000 signatures was only ten days. The rule for validating of the signatures was changed the day before the elections were scheduled. Before, the voters needed to validate their signatures for their chosen candidates in the courts, but now they needed to validate their signatures with private notaries who were appointed by the executive government. The number of notaries is only 162, not even one for each of 180 municipalities, and the first days they were all busy validating the signatures for the main political parties in power, while still doing their regular job as a notary for other different purposes. The oppositional and independent candidates got only 5-6 days, and having like only 2-3 hours a day with a notary, which was not enough time for most of them to organize more than 10,000 of their supporters to come and validate their signatures. Everything was set up this way intentionally in order that only the candidates allowed by the regime could enter the elections. The session of the parliament was paused during the elections period, in order that no oppositional voices could be heard. The members of the Serbian Progressive Party are being blackmailed to collect at least ten secured votes, that means to provide the proof they have persuaded at least ten other people to vote for the regime, or otherwise they will lose their jobs. And the elections will be rigged as usual, with hundred of thousands of dead people voting, and the results being changed, with no public access to ballots allowed. I know we are the land of vampires, but how come that the vampires always unanimously vote for the regime, that doesn't look legit. The most shocking thing of all is that the statesmen like Vladimir Putin and Orbán Viktor have provided official support to Aleksandar Vučić, although they are pretending of being against Soros.
Here is Aleksandar Vučić giving his official support to Hillary Clinton just before the American presidential elections, and giving 2 million EUR of other people's money to the Clinton Foundation. Aleksandar Vučić had previously appointed Tony Blair as his counselor, and now he is Bill Clinton's official bitch. We call him The Pussy-Mouth for the obvious reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxJZBF4DJ4c
One of the independent candidates I was considering voting for is Danielle Sremac. She was born in Belgrade, Serbia, her family moved to the United States when she was six, she has dual Serbian-American citizenship, she was the legal representative of the Bosnian Serbs in America during the 1990s, she is the founder and the president of the Serbian Institute in Washington DC, and she is a supporter of the Republican Party. She had 17,200 people who called her to give their signature, much more than the needed 10,000, but she faced obstruction from the most of the notaries, they refused to schedule meeting with her supporters to validate their signatures, or gave them just a little time, so she was forced to give up her presidential candidature. But she promised that she would bring this issue to the United States Congress, since she is also an American citizen. I hope she will keep her promise, and that this disgraceful political situation will come up to a public debate.
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SO COMPLICATED !!!
Let me simplify: "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim"
Quote from: Rotwang on April 27, 2017, 07:37:18 PM
SO COMPLICATED !!!
Let me simplify: "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim"
How about a FORMER Muslim?
Like Walid Shoebat
or Nonie Darwish?
Lots of them can be found by searching on
former Muslims.
Many former Muslims are great resources
for warning people about the true nature of Islam.
Quote from: Rotwang on April 27, 2017, 07:37:18 PM
SO COMPLICATED !!!
Let me simplify: "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim"
Well, you can say this because you have probably never had any Muslim friend or neighbor. But, I have had very good Muslim neighbors in my building, I have had very good Muslim school friends, I have met very good fellow Muslims when I served in the military, I go to a very good Muslim Albanian bakery, and I certainly don't want those people dead. So yeah, to me it is really more complicated, and I need to be very careful of every word I say. All of these Muslims I know are truly nice and peaceful and moral hard working people, like I suppose Muslims in general are. But, if they are being encouraged to conquer me, by their religious and political leaders, or by people like Hitler, Soros, or Erdogan, then it is a different story.
For example, Albanians are right now being very encouraged to continue making shit in Macedonia. They are creating a pressure that Albanian language is proclaimed the second official language in Macedonia, which would mean the end of that state. In Macedonian parliament, an Albanian MP was elected for the speaker, and Albanian MPs sang the Albanian national anthem, which provoked Macedonians who are protesting in front of the parliament for months to storm the building and beat some MPs yesterday. Albanians certainly have some international support to do this, maybe from Erdogan or from Soros. But I must warn the World, anyone who sides with the Albanians is a sure loser, sooner or later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnGfwkWn_H4
Albanian mafia is one of the strongest in the World, it now controls Albania, Serbia, and Montenegro, and it wants its hands on Macedonia, too. The next would be Greece probably.