Quote from: kramarat on August 01, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
If it weren't for junk mail, they would have closed long ago. 90% of what I get, is useless paper.....................which I burn. So much for saving the planet. I've got a government agency, that not only is bleeding money, but their primary purpose, is to deliver trash to my house.

I tried once to request that they stop delivering 3rd class mail to my house.

No such luck.

Quote from: Jasmine on August 01, 2012, 01:39:24 PM
Jonas Salk? Never heard of him. He can't be worth that much.

If Jonas wanted to make more money, he should have been a pro athlete.

Why didn't Salk patent his vaccine?

Quote from: mdgiles on August 01, 2012, 01:41:37 PM
Why didn't Salk patent his vaccine?

Vaccine? I thought maybe he was one of the Jonas Brothers.

Quote from: Jasmine on August 01, 2012, 01:49:20 PM
Vaccine? I thought maybe he was one of the Jonas Brothers.

Then he wouldn't be complaining about how much he was paid.

Quote from: kramarat on August 01, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
If it weren't for junk mail, they would have closed long ago. 90% of what I get, is useless paper.....................which I burn. So much for saving the planet. I've got a government agency, that not only is bleeding money, but their primary purpose, is to deliver trash to my house.

Totally... plus FedEx using them...

Quote from: Jasmine on August 01, 2012, 01:39:24 PM
Jonas Salk? Never heard of him. He can't be worth that much.

If Jonas wanted to make more money, he should have been a pro athlete.

Jonas Salk cured polio.   

"not worth that much"?

Quote from: mdgiles on August 01, 2012, 12:37:59 PM
Why do you keep saying education will somehow effect what people are paid, or "make it fairer".

It's simple, actually.  A more educated society will not be obsessed with athletics, and will not let assholes get away with cheating the system.  Less money for both.

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Competition. If a business as dealt with you unethically, why would you continue to patronize them? Laissez-faire applies to both the customer and the business

It isn't that simple.  Over here in Maryland, Pepco is an incompetent, worthless sack of shit.  But it's a monopoly, so what are we supposed to do?  Refuse power?  The only check on its power is the government; we go bitching to the governor, who goes bitching to Pepco.

Furthermore, people don't have the attention span or courage to boycott unethical practices.  Firstly, businesses can be ingenious in concealing them, and without a federal inspection unit, it's difficult to fish them out.  Secondly, businesses hire professional bullshitters capable of tricking most of the public into overlooking the slave wages they pay overseas employees, for example.  Thirdly, certain monopolies and indirect distribution businesses are almost impossible to take down unless if a significant amount of people are willing to endure a prolonged boycott.

Look at the Gilded Age.  If lazze faire economics work, why wasn't it called the Golden Age? 
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People cannot be trusted entirely to regulate themselves.  By lazze-logic, we shouldn't have murder or rape laws at all.  After all, murderers will be ostracized by the public, won't they?  Rapists can be chased and lynched.  We have laws not only against murder and other serious crimes, but also against fraud, libel, battery, disturbance of the peace, etc. 

Do you trust corporations more than you trust people?

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Regulations that prohibit unethical business practices shouldn't be an issue.  If you argue that most businesses are noble, then they won't be bothered by restrictions on actions they would never do.  If you argue that businesses will be bothered by such restrictions, then they aren't ethical, are they?

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Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2012, 01:01:16 PM
Go back through this thread, it is you that keeps wanting to dance, I asked you once and you never gave a direct answer, yet you come back complaining that you keep answering the same question.
So answer it, are you advocating redistribution of wealth, Yes or No?

Clearly, you're either a liar or have the attention span of a goldfish, since that wasn't even the question we were discussing.

To answer it, to a limited extent, yes.  Now, answer me back with an explanation as to why this is wrong, rather than labeling it as a marxist ideal and assuming that it is therefore wrong, no elaboration needed.

Do you support the bailout?

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So who will be in charge of this reeducation plan, the Govt?

It isn't my fault you think "government = evil".  Given that we have a government controlled education program, I fail to see why this is such a stretch of the imagination.