U.S. Humanitarian Aid Going to ISIS

Started by Solar, October 19, 2014, 08:39:22 PM

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Solar

What a Clusterfuck!

Not only are foodstuffs, medical supplies—even clinics—going to ISIS, the distribution networks are paying ISIS 'taxes' and putting ISIS people on their payrolls.
GAZIANTEP, Turkey — While U.S. warplanes strike at the militants of the so-called Islamic State in both Syria and Iraq, truckloads of U.S. and Western aid has been flowing into territory controlled by the jihadists, assisting them to build their terror-inspiring "Caliphate."

The aid—mainly food and medical equipment—is meant for Syrians displaced from their hometowns, and for hungry civilians. It is funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development, European donors, and the United Nations. Whether it continues is now the subject of anguished debate among officials in Washington and European. The fear is that stopping aid would hurt innocent civilians and would be used for propaganda purposes by the militants, who would likely blame the West for added hardship.

The Bible says if your enemy is hungry, feed him, and if he is thirsty, give him something to drink—doing so will "heap burning coals" of shame on his head. But there is no evidence that the militants of the Islamic State, widely known as ISIS or ISIL, feel any sense of disgrace or indignity (and certainly not gratitude) receiving charity from their foes. 

Quite the reverse, the aid convoys have to pay off ISIS emirs (leaders) for the convoys to enter the eastern Syrian extremist strongholds of Raqqa and Deir ez-Zor, providing yet another income stream for ISIS militants, who are funding themselves from oil smuggling, extortion and the sale of whatever they can loot, including rare antiquities from museums and archaeological sites.

"The convoys have to be approved by ISIS and you have to pay them: the bribes are disguised and itemized as transportation costs," says an aid coordinator who spoke to The Daily Beast on the condition he not be identified in this article.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/19/u-s-humanitarian-aid-going-to-isis.html
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Mountainshield

The liberals do everything in reverse, first you bomb them not to pin them down or halt their advance, but to utterly destroy them everywhere they are, fight them even more aggressive than they are, go all Patton on their asses, and then when they are ready to submit and think they will be executed in mass graves, their women raped, children enslaved etc like they themselves have done to others, then and only then should you show them mercy and that is the moment they will feel ashamed.

AndyJackson

Quote from: Mountainshield on October 20, 2014, 06:33:53 AM
The liberals do everything in reverse, first you bomb them not to pin them down or halt their advance, but to utterly destroy them everywhere they are, fight them even more aggressive than they are, go all Patton on their asses, and then when they are ready to submit and think they will be executed in mass graves, their women raped, children enslaved etc like they themselves have done to others, then and only then should you show them mercy and that is the moment they will feel ashamed.
It's no screwup.

It's classic Obama.  Get the MSM to cover some meaningless explosions out in the sand, like the next moon landing......and quietly help ISIS take over the ME in many other ways, which will never get covered.

A combo of early Hitler days and FDR and early OBL-Hussein.

Dori

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Quote from: Solar on October 19, 2014, 08:39:22 PM"The convoys have to be approved by ISIS and you have to pay them: the bribes are disguised and itemized as transportation costs," 

This sounds just like the Barbary Wars.  Thomas Jefferson went to war with the Barbary Pirates in 1801 after years of having trade ships captured and held for ransom. 

The Muslims sure haven't changed their stripes. 

A bit off topic, but I found this interesting on wiki.

QuoteIn March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:


QuoteIt was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.[21]

Sure sounds like they had a handle on Islam and terrorism better than today's crowd.


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Solar

Quote from: Dori on October 20, 2014, 01:31:14 PM
This sounds just like the Barbary Wars.  Thomas Jefferson went to war with the Barbary Pirates in 1801 after years of having trade ships captured and held for ransom. 

The Muslims sure haven't changed their stripes. 

A bit off topic, but I found this interesting on wiki.


Sure sounds like they had a handle on Islam and terrorism better than today's crowd.
Absolutely right! And what did the Marxist learn from history?
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dashvinny

I doubt the right wing warmongers would do any better with the aid. This is a war that cant be won because no matter what happens militants win.

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DaisyJane

We did help re-build Japan after World War 2.

Course, they had surrendered and had to adhere to our rules.

ISIS is no such entity.  I just don't get the thinking.  Or, maybe I do.

DaisyJane     :huh:

dashvinny

Quote from: DaisyJane on October 20, 2014, 03:59:49 PM
We did help re-build Japan after World War 2.

Course, they had surrendered and had to adhere to our rules.

ISIS is no such entity.  I just don't get the thinking.  Or, maybe I do.

DaisyJane     :huh:

Which side in the middle east will adhere to our rules other than possibly Israel.

carlb

Quote from: dashvinny on October 20, 2014, 05:04:29 PM
Which side in the middle east will adhere to our rules other than possibly Israel.

Any of them will after you nuke two of their cities  :lol:

(that was my violent inner-caveman speaking. He's in my Conservative genes  :laugh:)


dashvinny

This war has no good  conclusion, assuming it ever concludes.

Mountainshield

It is interesting, despite all of the splendor of oasis mega metropolises of the Middle East it doesn't take much to break it all down, the arabs will cannibalize their society through their pedo-war cult and destroy every blessing oil has given them.

dashvinny

Quote from: Mountainshield on October 21, 2014, 04:27:28 AM
It is interesting, despite all of the splendor of oasis mega metropolises of the Middle East it doesn't take much to break it all down, the arabs will cannibalize their society through their pedo-war cult and destroy every blessing oil has given them.

And why are we in the middle of it killing muslims that hate us to help muslims that  hate  us.

Mountainshield

Quote from: dashvinny on October 21, 2014, 04:55:16 AM
And why are we in the middle of it killing muslims that hate us to help muslims that  hate  us.

Derp.. to stop them from killing us over here :wink: