I've been pretty clear, Trump was not my first choice for POTUS - felt like we were getting into uncharted territory.
That opinion still lingers, -but- he's going a darn good job with almost no help from the GOPe, House & Senate - I find that amazing!
Trump can really stay focused, and knows how to play the media, better than anyone else I've ever known.
I like Donald Trump - he is, IMHO, the best person to occupy the White House right now.
Had Ted Cruz been elected, IMHO... I doubt he could be weathering storms like Donald Trump has. I think Ted would have become bogged down with answering stupid questions by the MSM, yet Trump seems to be like the Energizer Bunny, able to work several situations at the same time, and still handle the media. Still like Ted Cruz, don't get me wrong, but I see Trump as the guy who can turn over the entire establishment & entrenched state dept. He has the temperament for it.
I'm inclined to say, "let Trump take the arrows, ahead of Cruz. Cruz can run again in 2024.
Like Trump? Sure Trump has shown some patriotism, some leadership but he's also shown some incompetency and definitely lack of knowledge about the function of the executive branch. You have your viewpoint of him, I have quite another. First and foremost, you can't ignore or forget Tump's bombastic, narcissistic personality during his campaign that attacked not only the media, but every GOP candidate. He unmercifully went after Cruz and his family with lies and false accusations. It was Trump who didn't even know the ins and outs of the electoral process and accused Cruz of cheating. Secondly, I believe he made a deal with Priebus to push his nomination through; a roll call vote wasn't allowed at the convention. With that being said, I think there's a couple of things to take into consideration. It was Ted who survived Trump up until the very end and very courageously stood before millions of people at the convention and spoke for conservatism. It was Ted who met with Trump afterwards and publicly announced he was voting for him in order to stop Hillary and that Trump gave him a list of conservative justices and that he would pick a justice from that list. I believe had Cruz not done that, Trump would have lost. It was at that point that I believe Cruz supporters decided to vote for Trump for those reasons; stopping Hillary and seating a conservative justice. Without those votes, he would have lost. Keep in mind, that so far placing a conservative justice on the bench is the one promise that Trump has kept; we still don't have a wall, nor repeal of Bammycare.
Because of his bombastic, crass, rude and narcissistic personality many from the GOP and the DEMS vowed to do everything they could to derail his presidency and to make sure he was a one term president. That is holding true. What is now happening to Trump, he brought on all by himself. He's the one that brought on all the pitchforks against him. No one created that scenario but him. As one example, you can't announce to the country that you could shoot someone and still have supporters and expect a positive reaction from your own party and certainly not from the opposing party.
It was blatantly obvious to me, that during the campaign, Trump never attacked Hillary until the very end. That was a red flag and I believe he was just as surprised when he won. He didn't have a clue. He thought he could run government like a business and has even admitted so. He was wrong.
Cruz on the other hand, has a personality that conducts himself in a respectful manner towards the position of the presidency and didn't make a three ring circus spectacle out of himself during his campaign. He has stood time and time again for conservatism and truly for the people. He has tremendous knowledge of the Constitution and knows the functionality of our government. Yes he was loathed by the DEMS as well as by the GOPe as is Trump, but I believe deep down inside after Trump's circus performance, they would have preferred Cruz bringing some civility and respect to the oval office. Keep in mind when he stepped back into the Senate, he was met with a round of applause. He has definitely acquired some long overdue respect and recognition. It is Cruz who has tried to bridge the gap between Trump and those in Congress for the sake of country and has worked his butt off trying to save Trump from imploding.
To say that Cruz wouldn't have been able to endure as president what's happening now, will never be known, but Cruz did survive Trump and certainly didn't create the current scenario of the DEMS with pitchforks in hand.
Sure Trump has shown some patriotism and some leadership, but he's also shown some incompetency and definitely lack of knowledge about the function of the executive branch. So far, he's been unsuccessful in making the 'art of the deal' to fulfill his promises of building a wall and replacing healthcare. The three ring circus that he created followed him into the White House and the pitchforks against him aren't going away anytime soon. I support him as our President and I stand with him as I watch the ugliness coming out of the swamp, but whether or not he wins re-election in 2020 of course remains to be seen.
While all opinions are free; I agree w/I's judgement of Trump.
Anyone who has ever dated or married someone addicted to bluster/bombast
(Trump's infantile comments and tweets) knows that the relationship is doomed!!!
It is only a matter of time before the voters turn their back on him; as his below 40%
favorability is a flashing amber light.
Quote from: Walter Josh on August 05, 2017, 04:26:37 PM
While all opinions are free; I agree w/I's judgement of Trump.
Anyone who has ever dated or married someone addicted to bluster/bombast
(Trump's infantile comments and tweets) knows that the relationship is doomed!!!
It is only a matter of time before the voters turn their back on him; as his below 40%
favorability is a flashing amber light.
IF you can believe the polls. :lol: Remember Hillary was always going to be in the White House not Thump. It's how you play the game that make you a winner. Hillary and the MSM did not count on the founding fathers, and there wisdom. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Walter Josh on August 05, 2017, 04:26:37 PM
While all opinions are free; I agree w/I's judgement of Trump.
Anyone who has ever dated or married someone addicted to bluster/bombast
(Trump's infantile comments and tweets) knows that the relationship is doomed!!!
It is only a matter of time before the voters turn their back on him; as his below 40%
favorability is a flashing amber light.
I disagree, I see his use of Tweets as pure genius, with every tweet he has the leftist media scrambling to catch up, and just when they think they have him cornered, he closes the door on his way out on their worthless asses, locks it and leaves them panicking to find an exit, as he releases another volley of scathing tweets.
To even think his strategy is a negative, one would have to live on a diet of TV news, which by the way, is the only place one hears such nonsense..
FWIW, I can't stand Trump, but by God, his use of tweets and bypassing leftist media to connect with the public is pure genius, and I guarantee you, the Dim party is in serious study mode in trying to reverse engineer his winning formula.
Just because his enemies are lost as to how they can combat his success via rigged polling, or what have you, Trump is kicking leftist ass with every tweet.
I am not Trump's target market, regardless, I can see the beauty in his control over his message and it's not being filtered by the Marxist NY Slimes first.
How is it you can't see the genius of controlling your own message?
As to "bluster and bombast", try narcissist, I think that may be a better fit, but then, we're electing leaders, people with an ego the size of the sun, a person that has to confront sociopaths leading other nations, so "bluster and bombast" goes with the position, Hell, he better have an ego or the world would eat him alive.
Like I said, I can't stand the guy, and he may not be all that Conservative, but at least he has leftist in both party's in a panic.
IMHO both parties are in chaos more so now than before Trump. Sure Trump can handle the media; if there is a story the breaks that he doesn't like he attributes it to fake news, or he fires someone, or tweets about them rather it be false or true and really that's exactly how he won the presidency; lies and false accusations. So far, for the most part, his presidency has been a three-ring circus with many sideshows. Not good for the country at all.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on August 05, 2017, 05:40:56 PM
IMHO both parties are in chaos more so now than before Trump. Sure Trump can handle the media; if there is a story the breaks that he doesn't like he attributes it to fake news, or he fires someone, or tweets about them rather it be false or true and really that's exactly how he won the presidency; lies and false accusations. So far, for the most part, his presidency has been a three-ring circus with many sideshows. Not good for the country at all.
All done with a leftist Jackal media looking to Cull the weak, just imagine if we had a media that actually loved, Hell, even liked the country, imagine how things would look then.
The Marxist Admin was a traveling "Hate America" circus with worldwide events, but the media never once mentioned reality.
No, Trump's administration is no different than any of the preceding with the exception of the web, something Trump uses to bypass an
adversarial Enemy media.
More than fair enough, as disagreement fertilizes reflection.
Not to belabor this but while I voted for Trump, I've become disillusioned.
Margaret Noonan, Reagan's chief speechwriter, recently observed in the WSJ:
"He's neither cool, low key nor self-controlled but rather he's self-pitying and whiny;
the very essence of a narcissistic drama queen, needy of attention."
Ironically a half-dozen of my female friends and neighbors, Republicans all, say the same.
Frankly, I'll gladly accept being proven wrong by him.
Quote from: Walter Josh on August 05, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
More than fair enough, as disagreement fertilizes reflection.
Not to belabor this but while I voted for Trump, I've become disillusioned.
Margaret Noonan, Reagan's chief speechwriter, recently observed in the WSJ:
"He's neither cool, low key nor self-controlled but rather he's self-pitying and whiny;
the very essence of a narcissistic drama queen, needy of attention."
Ironically a half-dozen of my female friends and neighbors, Republicans all, say the same.
Frankly, I'll gladly accept being proven wrong by him.
So will
we I
all.
Something occurred to me. Trump is often called a dictator and in a way he is since no one on willing to work with him.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 05, 2017, 10:07:24 PM
Something occurred to me. Trump is often called a dictator and in a way he is since no one on willing to work with him.
For the most part Trump is an outsider. IF they let one in, there will be more that follow. It has taken over 75 years stacking the deck there way.
We do not control congress other than by voting them in, out or voter recall. They control us, we do not control their pay, perks, working hours and benefits they give each other.
No business is alive today that the employees control the employers.
Quote from: Solar on August 05, 2017, 05:06:42 PM
I disagree, I see his use of Tweets as pure genius, with every tweet he has the leftist media scrambling to catch up, and just when they think they have him cornered, he closes the door on his way out on their worthless asses, locks it and leaves them panicking to find an exit, as he releases another volley of scathing tweets.
To even think his strategy is a negative, one would have to live on a diet of TV news, which by the way, is the only place one hears such nonsense..
FWIW, I can't stand Trump, but by God, his use of tweets and bypassing leftist media to connect with the public is pure genius, and I guarantee you, the Dim party is in serious study mode in trying to reverse engineer his winning formula.
Just because his enemies are lost as to how they can combat his success via rigged polling, or what have you, Trump is kicking leftist ass with every tweet.
I am not Trump's target market, regardless, I can see the beauty in his control over his message and it's not being filtered by the Marxist NY Slimes first.
How is it you can't see the genius of controlling your own message?
As to "bluster and bombast", try narcissist, I think that may be a better fit, but then, we're electing leaders, people with an ego the size of the sun, a person that has to confront sociopaths leading other nations, so "bluster and bombast" goes with the position, Hell, he better have an ego or the world would eat him alive.
Like I said, I can't stand the guy, and he may not be all that Conservative, but at least he has leftist in both party's in a panic.
I agree some luster is off Trump. However, the MSM is just repeating their pre-election practices. There is still a silent majority and now Trump is actually showing some good results, both domestically and in foreign policy. Folks, those are not fake people attending those rallies just like before the election. I am one of those who is now looking at results. We don't need a nice guy in the WH. We need a leader that moves America forward. Good results cover many sins. Also, the democrats have not changed. In fact, they are moving even further to left with no message. The folks see all these factors.
Quote from: Solar on August 05, 2017, 05:06:42 PM
I disagree, I see his use of Tweets as pure genius, with every tweet he has the leftist media scrambling to catch up, and just when they think they have him cornered, he closes the door on his way out on their worthless asses, locks it and leaves them panicking to find an exit, as he releases another volley of scathing tweets.
To even think his strategy is a negative, one would have to live on a diet of TV news, which by the way, is the only place one hears such nonsense..
FWIW, I can't stand Trump, but by God, his use of tweets and bypassing leftist media to connect with the public is pure genius, and I guarantee you, the Dim party is in serious study mode in trying to reverse engineer his winning formula.
Just because his enemies are lost as to how they can combat his success via rigged polling, or what have you, Trump is kicking leftist ass with every tweet.
I am not Trump's target market, regardless, I can see the beauty in his control over his message and it's not being filtered by the Marxist NY Slimes first.
How is it you can't see the genius of controlling your own message?
As to "bluster and bombast", try narcissist, I think that may be a better fit, but then, we're electing leaders, people with an ego the size of the sun, a person that has to confront sociopaths leading other nations, so "bluster and bombast" goes with the position, Hell, he better have an ego or the world would eat him alive.
Like I said, I can't stand the guy, and he may not be all that Conservative, but at least he has leftist in both party's in a panic.
I think that you summed up nicely how many feel about Trump.
Quote from: Walter Josh on August 05, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
More than fair enough, as disagreement fertilizes reflection.
Not to belabor this but while I voted for Trump, I've become disillusioned.
Margaret Noonan, Reagan's chief speechwriter, recently observed in the WSJ:
"He's neither cool, low key nor self-controlled but rather he's self-pitying and whiny;
the very essence of a narcissistic drama queen, needy of attention."
Ironically a half-dozen of my female friends and neighbors, Republicans all, say the same.
Frankly, I'll gladly accept being proven wrong by him.
That's Peggy Noonan, and although she was Reagan's speech writer, she has always been a full blown leftist RINO.
The words she crafted were the thoughts and motivations under the direction of Reagan himself.
Noonan herself, lost all credibility decades ago.
I think we'll be able to tell more with the next 6 months ... once we head into 2018, hopefully progress will have been made with healthcare and immigration.
If anything, my bet is we're going to see economic growth and jobs like we haven't seen in decades.
Quote from: Dubinsky on August 06, 2017, 06:00:19 AM
I think that you summed up nicely how many feel about Trump.
Thanks.
I think much of what people think of Trump has to do with the amount of TV viewing, as well as which networks and print media consumed. The lazier the individual, the number of hours of consumption increases, the same goes for many 9 to fivers commuting home with little time left when they arrive home, unless they are driving, in which case they catch talk radio and have no use for lying leftist TV.
I watch zero TV news, pay little to no attention to leftist rags, but listen intently to what is actually said by Trump or the leftist target and decide on my own what is considered fair reaction, and not the opinion of some talking head.
I do believe these numbers are increasing exponentially every year, coupled with the lies produced by the left.
People are sick of being lied to, and many actually take the opposite view out of reflex, to opinions produced by the likes of the NY Slimes.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on August 05, 2017, 05:29:32 AM
Like Trump? Sure Trump has shown some patriotism, some leadership but he's also shown some incompetency and definitely lack of knowledge about the function of the executive branch. You have your viewpoint of him, I have quite another. First and foremost, you can't ignore or forget Tump's bombastic, narcissistic personality during his campaign that attacked not only the media, but every GOP candidate. He unmercifully went after Cruz and his family with lies and false accusations. It was Trump who didn't even know the ins and outs of the electoral process and accused Cruz of cheating. Secondly, I believe he made a deal with Priebus to push his nomination through; a roll call vote wasn't allowed at the convention. With that being said, I think there's a couple of things to take into consideration. It was Ted who survived Trump up until the very end and very courageously stood before millions of people at the convention and spoke for conservatism. It was Ted who met with Trump afterwards and publicly announced he was voting for him in order to stop Hillary and that Trump gave him a list of conservative justices and that he would pick a justice from that list. I believe had Cruz not done that, Trump would have lost. It was at that point that I believe Cruz supporters decided to vote for Trump for those reasons; stopping Hillary and seating a conservative justice. Without those votes, he would have lost. Keep in mind, that so far placing a conservative justice on the bench is the one promise that Trump has kept; we still don't have a wall, nor repeal of Bammycare.
Because of his bombastic, crass, rude and narcissistic personality many from the GOP and the DEMS vowed to do everything they could to derail his presidency and to make sure he was a one term president. That is holding true. What is now happening to Trump, he brought on all by himself. He's the one that brought on all the pitchforks against him. No one created that scenario but him. As one example, you can't announce to the country that you could shoot someone and still have supporters and expect a positive reaction from your own party and certainly not from the opposing party.
It was blatantly obvious to me, that during the campaign, Trump never attacked Hillary until the very end. That was a red flag and I believe he was just as surprised when he won. He didn't have a clue. He thought he could run government like a business and has even admitted so. He was wrong.
Cruz on the other hand, has a personality that conducts himself in a respectful manner towards the position of the presidency and didn't make a three ring circus spectacle out of himself during his campaign. He has stood time and time again for conservatism and truly for the people. He has tremendous knowledge of the Constitution and knows the functionality of our government. Yes he was loathed by the DEMS as well as by the GOPe as is Trump, but I believe deep down inside after Trump's circus performance, they would have preferred Cruz bringing some civility and respect to the oval office. Keep in mind when he stepped back into the Senate, he was met with a round of applause. He has definitely acquired some long overdue respect and recognition. It is Cruz who has tried to bridge the gap between Trump and those in Congress for the sake of country and has worked his butt off trying to save Trump from imploding.
To say that Cruz wouldn't have been able to endure as president what's happening now, will never be known, but Cruz did survive Trump and certainly didn't create the current scenario of the DEMS with pitchforks in hand.
Sure Trump has shown some patriotism and some leadership, but he's also shown some incompetency and definitely lack of knowledge about the function of the executive branch. So far, he's been unsuccessful in making the 'art of the deal' to fulfill his promises of building a wall and replacing healthcare. The three ring circus that he created followed him into the White House and the pitchforks against him aren't going away anytime soon. I support him as our President and I stand with him as I watch the ugliness coming out of the swamp, but whether or not he wins re-election in 2020 of course remains to be seen.
Why have hard feelings against Donald Trump? If he was at my dinner table, I'd be tempted to punch him in the nose for looking at my daughters - that's what dads are for, playing the Sheep Dog and watching over the family flock. The guy is a jerk... but, he's the best jerk we could have wished for to take the fight to the MSM & DIMs, agreed? Trump is very direct, has a commanding presence, and behind closed doors, the MSM is holding prayer vigils to come up with an answer to him.
Ted Cruz, as you described, is an honest, respectable guy .... treading water is a swimming pool stuffed with Barracudas & Sharks. As much as I hated to see Trump attempting to BRAND Ted Cruz with outright lies, Ted's answers, 'Donald is having a temper tantrum.' Look, that just doesn't play well when we need a fighter in the white house.
IMHO, Trump has the right mix of horrible boss leadership skills to send the MSM reeling & regrouping - he calls it just like -we- see it, pretty uncanny to have a POTUS tap into main-street American frustration, and return the frustration to the MSM. Crude, yup - remember Megyn Kelly tried to bridle Trump, and he hit back so hard, she just sort of vanished, probably licking her wounds! Trump is sort of like Mohammed Ali - he's not quitting.
Ted Cruz's demeanor is to play rational adult and try to reason with the bullies in the MSM. How has that worked?
Speaking of embarrassing specaticals - Trump is pretty darn good at running a 3-ring circus, MSM clowns jumping in here an there - now if he can get those darn Elephants back in line....
I'll be 100% honest, when I hear Trump taking-it-to-the-MSM in an edited sound bite, I cheer - he's not what I'd expect in a POTUS, he even better than I hoped for. Trump is a fine vehicle to push our Constitutional Agenda.
Quote from: Hoofer on August 06, 2017, 06:06:24 PM
Why have hard feelings against Donald Trump? If he was at my dinner table, I'd be tempted to punch him in the nose for looking at my daughters - that's what dads are for, playing the Sheep Dog and watching over the family flock. The guy is a jerk... but, he's the best jerk we could have wished for to take the fight to the MSM & DIMs, agreed? Trump is very direct, has a commanding presence, and behind closed doors, the MSM is holding prayer vigils to come up with an answer to him.
Ted Cruz, as you described, is an honest, respectable guy .... treading water is a swimming pool stuffed with Barracudas & Sharks. As much as I hated to see Trump attempting to BRAND Ted Cruz with outright lies, Ted's answers, 'Donald is having a temper tantrum.' Look, that just doesn't play well when we need a fighter in the white house.
IMHO, Trump has the right mix of horrible boss leadership skills to send the MSM reeling & regrouping - he calls it just like -we- see it, pretty uncanny to have a POTUS tap into main-street American frustration, and return the frustration to the MSM. Crude, yup - remember Megyn Kelly tried to bridle Trump, and he hit back so hard, she just sort of vanished, probably licking her wounds! Trump is sort of like Mohammed Ali - he's not quitting.
Ted Cruz's demeanor is to play rational adult and try to reason with the bullies in the MSM. How has that worked?
Speaking of embarrassing specaticals - Trump is pretty darn good at running a 3-ring circus, MSM clowns jumping in here an there - now if he can get those darn Elephants back in line....
I'll be 100% honest, when I hear Trump taking-it-to-the-MSM in an edited sound bite, I cheer - he's not what I'd expect in a POTUS, he even better than I hoped for. Trump is a fine vehicle to push our Constitutional Agenda.
And who better to give the Marxist media a taste of their own shit, than one of their own, a Dim with a (R) next to his name?
Quote from: Hoofer on August 06, 2017, 06:06:24 PM
Why have hard feelings against Donald Trump? If he was at my dinner table, I'd be tempted to punch him in the nose for looking at my daughters - that's what dads are for, playing the Sheep Dog and watching over the family flock. The guy is a jerk... but, he's the best jerk we could have wished for to take the fight to the MSM & DIMs, agreed? Trump is very direct, has a commanding presence, and behind closed doors, the MSM is holding prayer vigils to come up with an answer to him.
Ted Cruz, as you described, is an honest, respectable guy .... treading water is a swimming pool stuffed with Barracudas & Sharks. As much as I hated to see Trump attempting to BRAND Ted Cruz with outright lies, Ted's answers, 'Donald is having a temper tantrum.' Look, that just doesn't play well when we need a fighter in the white house.
IMHO, Trump has the right mix of horrible boss leadership skills to send the MSM reeling & regrouping - he calls it just like -we- see it, pretty uncanny to have a POTUS tap into main-street American frustration, and return the frustration to the MSM. Crude, yup - remember Megyn Kelly tried to bridle Trump, and he hit back so hard, she just sort of vanished, probably licking her wounds! Trump is sort of like Mohammed Ali - he's not quitting.
Ted Cruz's demeanor is to play rational adult and try to reason with the bullies in the MSM. How has that worked?
Speaking of embarrassing specaticals - Trump is pretty darn good at running a 3-ring circus, MSM clowns jumping in here an there - now if he can get those darn Elephants back in line....
I'll be 100% honest, when I hear Trump taking-it-to-the-MSM in an edited sound bite, I cheer - he's not what I'd expect in a POTUS, he even better than I hoped for. Trump is a fine vehicle to push our Constitutional Agenda.
I don't have hard feelings against Trump, but I certainly have concern and I believe I have at times fairly given him credit where credit is due. I feel that the office of the President should be revered and respected not only by one's own party, but should set an example to the citizens of this country and around the globe. Trump should be leading, setting policy and signing bills rather than spending an exorbitant amount of time dodging the spears being thrown his way. As for the barracudas and sharks; he's increasingly becoming a one man island surrounded by the barracudas and sharks. That scenario he created all on his own. Watching some of Trump's appointments only to see him fire them shortly thereafter, is like watching the Mickey Mouse Revue! He appoints people whom he thinks he's made deals with only to find out that they don't have his back. IMHO, one of his worst appointments was Sessions, then Rosenstein who in turn hired Muller as special counsel to the Russia investigation. He doesn't have a clue and he's gone after conservatives who have tried to help him. Secondly, he's left a lot of Bammy appointees in place ... why?
As for Trump being a vehicle for our Constitutional agenda? Perhaps Constitutional law 101, taught to him by Ted Cruz is in order ... then perhaps we could consider Trump to be that vehicle. Just sayin'.
Quote from: Solar on August 06, 2017, 01:45:36 PM
Thanks.
I think much of what people think of Trump has to do with the amount of TV viewing, as well as which networks and print media consumed. The lazier the individual, the number of hours of consumption increases, the same goes for many 9 to fivers commuting home with little time left when they arrive home, unless they are driving, in which case they catch talk radio and have no use for lying leftist TV.
I watch zero TV news, pay little to no attention to leftist rags, but listen intently to what is actually said by Trump or the leftist target and decide on my own what is considered fair reaction, and not the opinion of some talking head.
I do believe these numbers are increasing exponentially every year, coupled with the lies produced by the left.
People are sick of being lied to, and many actually take the opposite view out of reflex, to opinions produced by the likes of the NY Slimes.
Yep. Thinking for one's self...a lost art. :smile:
Quote from: Dubinsky on August 07, 2017, 06:02:45 AM
Yep. Thinking for one's self...a lost art. :smile:
Without so much as a whimper, critical thought was assassinated by govt run universities.
Quote from: Dubinsky on August 07, 2017, 06:02:45 AM
Yep. Thinking for one's self...a lost art. :smile:
And they depend on Google and Facebook for news.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on August 06, 2017, 06:53:06 PM
I don't have hard feelings against Trump, but I certainly have concern and I believe I have at times fairly given him credit where credit is due. I feel that the office of the President should be revered and respected not only by one's own party, but should set an example to the citizens of this country and around the globe. Trump should be leading, setting policy and signing bills rather than spending an exorbitant amount of time dodging the spears being thrown his way. As for the barracudas and sharks; he's increasingly becoming a one man island surrounded by the barracudas and sharks. That scenario he created all on his own. Watching some of Trump's appointments only to see him fire them shortly thereafter, is like watching the Mickey Mouse Revue! He appoints people whom he thinks he's made deals with only to find out that they don't have his back. IMHO, one of his worst appointments was Sessions, then Rosenstein who in turn hired Muller as special counsel to the Russia investigation. He doesn't have a clue and he's gone after conservatives who have tried to help him. Secondly, he's left a lot of Bammy appointees in place ... why?
As for Trump being a vehicle for our Constitutional agenda? Perhaps Constitutional law 101, taught to him by Ted Cruz is in order ... then perhaps we could consider Trump to be that vehicle. Just sayin'.
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Like many on this forum, I voted for Trump because he was running against hillary. I have seen enough of the childish tweets and am looking forward to seeing how well he can accomplish his agenda. We are quickly closing in on his first year and are still waiting on the wall, the end of obama care, tax cuts, A BALANCED BUDGET, reducing the debt..........the list goes on. This great country is not one of his damn reality shows and he needs to show the dignity not to run it as such.
Quote from: s3779m on August 07, 2017, 10:02:49 AM
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Like many on this forum, I voted for Trump because he was running against hillary. I have seen enough of the childish tweets and am looking forward to seeing how well he can accomplish his agenda. We are quickly closing in on his first year and are still waiting on the wall, the end of obama care, tax cuts, A BALANCED BUDGET, reducing the debt..........the list goes on. This great country is not one of his damn reality shows and he needs to show the dignity not to run it as such.
Well now Trump can have all the agenda he likes. IF congress will not get off their ass and do the job they have been ask to do it will not happen. Remember Trump cannot do a damn thing unless congress pass a bill other then E/O, and that can only last as long as he is in the WH.
You may think Trump tweets are childish, but he is getting the truth out before the MSM can adjust it their way. This is the first time I have witnessed the MSM not controlling all the news their way. The MSM is no longer the go to for the truth. For me the MSM lost credibility over 50 years ago. Their like Troll on the internet flinging poo in hopes it will stick.
Just how many true Conservative and republicans do we have in congress?
As they say.
"Wish in one hand, shit in the other. See which one gets filled first."
Quote from: s3779m on August 07, 2017, 10:02:49 AM
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Like many on this forum, I voted for Trump because he was running against hillary. I have seen enough of the childish tweets and am looking forward to seeing how well he can accomplish his agenda. We are quickly closing in on his first year and are still waiting on the wall, the end of obama care, tax cuts, A BALANCED BUDGET, reducing the debt..........the list goes on. This great country is not one of his damn reality shows and he needs to show the dignity not to run it as such.
I understand your frustration, but don't forget the real culprits are the RINO's in congress.
Quote from: walkstall on August 07, 2017, 11:36:15 AM
Well now Trump can have all the agenda he likes. IF congress will not get off their ass and do the job they have been ask to do it will not happen. Remember Trump cannot do a damn thing unless congress pass a bill other then E/O, and that can only last as long as he is in the WH.
You may think Trump tweets are childish, but he is getting the truth out before the MSM can adjust it their way. This is the first time I have witnessed the MSM not controlling all the news their way. The MSM is no longer the go to for the truth. For me the MSM lost credibility over 50 years ago. Their like Troll on the internet flinging poo in hopes it will stick.
Just how many true Conservative and republicans do we have in congress?
As they say.
"Wish in one hand, shit in the other. See which one gets filled first."
We probably only have a handful of conservatives in congress and none in the white house. But thats not my point, I understand that some are seeing the tweets as productive, I don't.I do believe if he get his agenda passed, that will defeat the lsm better than any tweet.
Regardless of how many rinos are in congress, it is the only "team" he has right now to get things done and if he has the negotiating skills he bragged on, its time to see them. I don't care to see four years of nothing. Tea is making progress, and 2018 will show more of that, but there will still be rinos to deal with.
Oh, and I don't wish for anything, I learned that one a loooong time ago. Here is one for trump to learn, you can't wrestle with a turd without getting shit on you.
Quote from: s3779m on August 07, 2017, 01:08:20 PM
We probably only have a handful of conservatives in congress and none in the white house. But thats not my point, I understand that some are seeing the tweets as productive, I don't.I do believe if he get his agenda passed, that will defeat the lsm better than any tweet.
Regardless of how many rinos are in congress, it is the only "team" he has right now to get things done and if he has the negotiating skills he bragged on, its time to see them. I don't care to see four years of nothing. Tea is making progress, and 2018 will show more of that, but there will still be rinos to deal with.
Oh, and I don't wish for anything, I learned that one a loooong time ago. Here is one for trump to learn, you can't wrestle with a turd without getting shit on you.
MOST days all you have in congress is turd to wrestle with. It's not like you can do something in congress and not get shit all over you. I learned a looooong time ago also, you don't give up even if you get shit on you. It will wash off, I'm and old farm boy from way back.
Quote from: s3779m on August 07, 2017, 01:08:20 PM
We probably only have a handful of conservatives in congress and none in the white house. But thats not my point, I understand that some are seeing the tweets as productive, I don't.I do believe if he get his agenda passed, that will defeat the lsm better than any tweet.
Regardless of how many rinos are in congress, it is the only "team" he has right now to get things done and if he has the negotiating skills he bragged on, its time to see them. I don't care to see four years of nothing. Tea is making progress, and 2018 will show more of that, but there will still be rinos to deal with.
Oh, and I don't wish for anything, I learned that one a loooong time ago. Here is one for trump to learn, you can't wrestle with a turd without getting shit on you.
He has no other option but to get in the pen and wrestle, either that or concede and let the left walk all over him.
Like Walks, I too had to get in and cull out certain cattle for polling and to be a future steer, they didn't like it any more than I.
I got a lot of blood and shit on me, but at the end of the day, the job was done and I could shower and the cattle were much more subdued, but that's what happens when you neuter them.
Trump'S tweets are a form of wrestling, and if done correctly, his opponent at the end of the day has been neutered, just like the cattle.
Nothing more demeaning than a public neutering by the POTUS.
Can you imagine if any of the last Presidents had bothered to fight back? But then, we haven't had an actual Conservative since Reagan, so I guess it's a moot point.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on August 06, 2017, 06:53:06 PM
I don't have hard feelings against Trump, but I certainly have concern and I believe I have at times fairly given him credit where credit is due. I feel that the office of the President should be revered and respected not only by one's own party, but should set an example to the citizens of this country and around the globe. Trump should be leading, setting policy and signing bills rather than spending an exorbitant amount of time dodging the spears being thrown his way. As for the barracudas and sharks; he's increasingly becoming a one man island surrounded by the barracudas and sharks. That scenario he created all on his own. Watching some of Trump's appointments only to see him fire them shortly thereafter, is like watching the Mickey Mouse Revue! He appoints people whom he thinks he's made deals with only to find out that they don't have his back. IMHO, one of his worst appointments was Sessions, then Rosenstein who in turn hired Muller as special counsel to the Russia investigation. He doesn't have a clue and he's gone after conservatives who have tried to help him. Secondly, he's left a lot of Bammy appointees in place ... why?
As for Trump being a vehicle for our Constitutional agenda? Perhaps Constitutional law 101, taught to him by Ted Cruz is in order ... then perhaps we could consider Trump to be that vehicle. Just sayin'.
I for one, will stand behind Donald Trump and continue to support him, as long as he keeps moving the Conservative agenda, and as Solar explained, does the dirty work of castrating the MSM (by any means at his disposal). This is sort of like David and Solomon, a man of war to clean house, do the dirty work, and forcibly straighten things up... yeah, there will be collateral damage. Solomon, David's son, steps in and there is a long period of peace. I doubt Solomon would have had the backbone to fight the same battles David did.
Likewise, we hate the "messy" process of draining the swamp - and, I'll add, it can't be done with a mass firing without losing key components to keep the departments running... unfortunately. I'm just looking and listening from a distance, and trying to remain patient. Donald Trump, IMHO, is the best person for THIS job, if he is largely successful, Ted Cruz will shine as the next person. Trump is going toe-to-toe and not backing down, counter-punching and not apologizing for hitting knuckleheads who jump up and get in the way. Based on the two different personalities - I'd say, Trump doesn't give a rats behind what anyone thinks, he's got some goals in mind, and he's gonna see things through. When his appointments don't produce results, he's calling them out (Sessions), and they either get with it quick, or they're gone. Did you notice, how quiet Sessions was, Trump pressures him via the MSM, and all of the sudden, Sessions is all over the Sanctuary City stuff... Trump eases off him again, Sessions is bringing the pressure Trump wants. Granted Trump was rather unconventional, and aired some hurtful stuff publicly - Sessions was too quiet, IMO, and Trump wanted him, front-and-center.
None of what we see in Trump's personality is compatible to Trump's method of getting the job done. Trump is willing to go-it-alone, IMO, I doubt Cruz would, or could last very long in this environment. If Ted Cruz understood HOW to handle the MSM better than Donald Trump, he'd be president.... yeah, "OUCH!" Talk is cheap, and IMO, if Ted Cruz starts teaming up with Donald Trump to push the Cruz agenda, he'd win over more support as a future POTUS candidate than he has now. Nikki Haley gets tough at the UN, and we're looking her direction with wide eyes, "Wow, she'll be POTUS some day!", great leadership skills. Other than the weekly emails from Ted, to remind me he's still breathing, (grrrrrrr!), Ted is missing the opportunity.
If Ted Cruz wants to live up to the position of Standard-bearer for TEA and run for POTUS again - he better start making a name for himself besides a random-rock-thrower from the sidelines. Why does Chuck Schumer get away with these media puff-pieces unchallenged? Schumer ought to be an easy target for Ted Cruz. When was the last time we heard Ted from the senate floor, railing against overspending and over regulation, rallying the other Republicans to keep their promises to the American people?
So is this the new Cruz strategy, sit back, keep quiet and wait-your-turn? There's enough room for another fighter, and Trump has enough issues for Ted to pick up and hammer home. He's only hurting his chances by sitting back. Same goes for every other POTUS-wanna-be. Ted can talk about 'doing the dirty work', 'working hard', 'defending our constitutional rights' .... what have you done for me lately, Ted...? I can't hear you. Knock-knock... Ted? Are you in there? Did you really mean all that stuff you said during the campaign?
Donald Trump is the right guy for THIS time, IMHO, Ted has been busy with his email campaign.
Quote from: Hoofer on August 08, 2017, 07:25:46 AM
I for one, will stand behind Donald Trump and continue to support him, as long as he keeps moving the Conservative agenda, and as Solar explained, does the dirty work of castrating the MSM (by any means at his disposal). This is sort of like David and Solomon, a man of war to clean house, do the dirty work, and forcibly straighten things up... yeah, there will be collateral damage. Solomon, David's son, steps in and there is a long period of peace. I doubt Solomon would have had the backbone to fight the same battles David did.
Likewise, we hate the "messy" process of draining the swamp - and, I'll add, it can't be done with a mass firing without losing key components to keep the departments running... unfortunately. I'm just looking and listening from a distance, and trying to remain patient. Donald Trump, IMHO, is the best person for THIS job, if he is largely successful, Ted Cruz will shine as the next person. Trump is going toe-to-toe and not backing down, counter-punching and not apologizing for hitting knuckleheads who jump up and get in the way. Based on the two different personalities - I'd say, Trump doesn't give a rats behind what anyone thinks, he's got some goals in mind, and he's gonna see things through. When his appointments don't produce results, he's calling them out (Sessions), and they either get with it quick, or they're gone. Did you notice, how quiet Sessions was, Trump pressures him via the MSM, and all of the sudden, Sessions is all over the Sanctuary City stuff... Trump eases off him again, Sessions is bringing the pressure Trump wants. Granted Trump was rather unconventional, and aired some hurtful stuff publicly - Sessions was too quiet, IMO, and Trump wanted him, front-and-center.
None of what we see in Trump's personality is compatible to Trump's method of getting the job done. Trump is willing to go-it-alone, IMO, I doubt Cruz would, or could last very long in this environment. If Ted Cruz understood HOW to handle the MSM better than Donald Trump, he'd be president.... yeah, "OUCH!" Talk is cheap, and IMO, if Ted Cruz starts teaming up with Donald Trump to push the Cruz agenda, he'd win over more support as a future POTUS candidate than he has now. Nikki Haley gets tough at the UN, and we're looking her direction with wide eyes, "Wow, she'll be POTUS some day!", great leadership skills. Other than the weekly emails from Ted, to remind me he's still breathing, (grrrrrrr!), Ted is missing the opportunity.
If Ted Cruz wants to live up to the position of Standard-bearer for TEA and run for POTUS again - he better start making a name for himself besides a random-rock-thrower from the sidelines. Why does Chuck Schumer get away with these media puff-pieces unchallenged? Schumer ought to be an easy target for Ted Cruz. When was the last time we heard Ted from the senate floor, railing against overspending and over regulation, rallying the other Republicans to keep their promises to the American people?
So is this the new Cruz strategy, sit back, keep quiet and wait-your-turn? There's enough room for another fighter, and Trump has enough issues for Ted to pick up and hammer home. He's only hurting his chances by sitting back. Same goes for every other POTUS-wanna-be. Ted can talk about 'doing the dirty work', 'working hard', 'defending our constitutional rights' .... what have you done for me lately, Ted...? I can't hear you. Knock-knock... Ted? Are you in there? Did you really mean all that stuff you said during the campaign?
Donald Trump is the right guy for THIS time, IMHO, Ted has been busy with his email campaign.
Last I checked, Cruz didn't exactly have any sway with leftists in getting out his message.
Cruz fights a daily battle, you just never hear about any of it simply because Marxists in the RNC hate him.
Quote from: Solar on August 08, 2017, 07:36:21 AM
Last I checked, Cruz didn't exactly have any sway with leftists in getting out his message.
Cruz fights a daily battle, you just never hear about any of it simply because Marxists in the RNC hate him.
Ted doesn't need to completely jump on the Trump band wagon - but picking up some of Trump's causes isn't gonna hurt.
If he's successful, I'd bet Trump would give him plenty of attention... another man who cares about America, stepping up to make America Great Again.
Quote from: Hoofer on August 08, 2017, 05:15:20 PM
Ted doesn't need to completely jump on the Trump band wagon - but picking up some of Trump's causes isn't gonna hurt.
If he's successful, I'd bet Trump would give him plenty of attention... another man who cares about America, stepping up to make America Great Again.
Problem is, Trump has yet to do a solid Conservative move for Cruz to get wholly behind.
Though I do expect to see Trump making concessions to Cruz in the summer of 2019.
Quote from: Solar on August 08, 2017, 05:54:22 PM
Problem is, Trump has yet to do a solid Conservative move for Cruz to get wholly behind.
Though I do expect to see Trump making concessions to Cruz in the summer of 2019.
So true! And, all Trump has been able to do is act alone, McConnell has the Senate bottled up, Ryan is hapless leading the House.
He can't go much further running the government through the cabinet, the frustration level has got to be unnerving.
but... I gotta hand it to Trump, he is very resourceful & cunning, the NK thing could work to his benefit, getting the Congress united with him.