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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: walkstall on February 15, 2018, 06:02:56 PM

Title: Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
Post by: walkstall on February 15, 2018, 06:02:56 PM
Trump slipped one more in on them.  The MSM makes it sound like a bad thing. 

snip~
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

more @
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221
Title: Re: Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
Post by: Cryptic Bert on February 15, 2018, 07:31:00 PM
The Social Security Administration should not be in the gun debate. No true proponent of the second amendment wants anyone with mental issues to have access to fire arms but you can't paint with a broad brush. Each case needs to be looked at individually.

The brutal reality is gun laws aren't very effective because criminals don't obey the law. Ban AR 15's and the only people who have them are the bad guys.
Title: Re: Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
Post by: cubs2016 on February 17, 2018, 05:08:38 AM
Quote from: walkstall on February 15, 2018, 06:02:56 PM
Trump slipped one more in on them.  The MSM makes it sound like a bad thing. 

snip~
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

more @
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

The question always becomes, to me anyway, who is going to make the determination that someone is "mentally ill" and what exactly does that mean?  Let the government make that determination through some mental health "expert"?  No thanks.  So I'm too old to manage my financial affairs and that means I am not allowed to defend myself from a thug breaking into my home now?   
Title: Re: Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
Post by: Solar on February 17, 2018, 07:27:08 AM
Quote from: cubs2016 on February 17, 2018, 05:08:38 AM
The question always becomes, to me anyway, who is going to make the determination that someone is "mentally ill" and what exactly does that mean?  Let the government make that determination through some mental health "expert"?  No thanks.  So I'm too old to manage my financial affairs and that means I am not allowed to defend myself from a thug breaking into my home now?   
Certainly not people who know you, not judged by "Your Peers", but rather hand-picked govt appointees willing to do the bidding of the left.
Think IRS, EPA, Etc.None of these agencies work on your behalf, they are agents of the govt, they do the bidding of those in charge.

Trump just neutered the govt.
Title: Re: Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
Post by: supsalemgr on February 17, 2018, 08:32:48 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 17, 2018, 07:27:08 AM
Certainly not people who know you, not judged by "Your Peers", but rather hand-picked govt appointees willing to do the bidding of the left.
Think IRS, EPA, Etc.None of these agencies work on your behalf, they are agents of the govt, they do the bidding of those in charge.

Trump just neutered the govt.

Note also democrats are ranting about people on the terrorist watch list not being able to buy guns. Sounds good, right? But then one has to asked who in government puts folks on the list. It is just another tool and vehicle to remove guns from law abiding citizens. The answer is unnamed bureaucrats place names on the list and we know how corrupt they can be.
Title: Re: Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
Post by: Solar on February 17, 2018, 08:46:59 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 17, 2018, 08:32:48 AM
Note also democrats are ranting about people on the terrorist watch list not being able to buy guns. Sounds good, right? But then one has to asked who in government puts folks on the list. It is just another tool and vehicle to remove guns from law abiding citizens. The answer is unnamed bureaucrats place names on the list and we know how corrupt they can be.
The left's hypocrisy is palpable as well as ironic.
Title: Re: Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
Post by: walkstall on February 17, 2018, 09:27:18 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 17, 2018, 08:32:48 AM
Note also democrats are ranting about people on the terrorist watch list not being able to buy guns. Sounds good, right? But then one has to asked who in government puts folks on the list. It is just another tool and vehicle to remove guns from law abiding citizens. The answer is unnamed bureaucrats place names on the list and we know how corrupt they can be.


Is there an agency in WDC that the top level of a department is NOT corrupt? 
Title: Re: Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
Post by: cubs2016 on February 18, 2018, 05:38:58 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 17, 2018, 08:32:48 AM
Note also democrats are ranting about people on the terrorist watch list not being able to buy guns. Sounds good, right? But then one has to asked who in government puts folks on the list. It is just another tool and vehicle to remove guns from law abiding citizens. The answer is unnamed bureaucrats place names on the list and we know how corrupt they can be.

Do you suppose anti-fas are put on the list?  I rather doubt it, even though they have blatantly demonstrated how violent they are.