'I represent the people of Pittsburgh NOT Paris': Trump pulls U.S. out of climate accord saying it is a foreign attempt to seize American jobs and American wealth - and is immediately attacked by Obama
Donald Trump is pulling the United States out of the Paris climate agreement that Barack Obama entered
President says he is protecting American jobs and accuses treaty of being designed to redistribute U.S. wealth to other countries
'I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh not Paris,' he said - 'It is time to make America great again.'
Obama reacted before Trump even finishing speaking, saying action means U.S. joins a small handful of nations that reject the future'
Trump told 'foreign leaders in Europe, Asia and across the world' they would not have a say over American jobs and American growth
Syria and Nicaragua are only other countries not in deal whose backers say is vital to stopping average temperatures growing by more than 2C this century
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner were said to have lobbied to stay in - and were not at the Rose Garden to witness the decision being announced
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4563932/Trump-announces-U-S-Paris-climate-accord.html
I saw the presser... The President gets a gold star from me today.
QuoteIvanka Trump and Jared Kushner were said to have lobbied to stay in - and were not at the Rose Garden to witness the decision being announced
Well their Dem's after all. Dad may be a RINO now but the kids are Dem's. One more Atta-man for Trump.
Lib's heads
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVOOMyYde0c
Trump needs to keep pressing on and keep one step ahead of the democrats. When this dies down and the first sign of the word Russia takes hold with the MSM do something else that would make the dems head spin. Like moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem.
Here's the list of crony capitalists that wanted Trump to sign on with this scam.
Wanna bet they all donate to RINO Establishment candidates?
The companies that have signed the pledge are:
Abengoa Bioenergy US
Aemetis, Alcoa
American Express
Apple
AT&T
Autodesk
Bank of America
Berkshire Hathaway Energy
Best Buy
Biogen
Bloomberg
Cargill
CA Technologies
Calpine
Campos Brothers Farms
Coca-Cola
Cox Enterprises
Dell
DSM North America
EMC, Energy Optimizers
Ener-G Rudox
Facebook
Fulcrum Bioenergy
GE
General Mills
General Motors
Goldman Sachs
Google
Hershey's
Hewlett Packard
Iberdrola USA
IBM
IKEA USA
Ingersoll Rand
International Paper
Intel
Intex Solutions, Inc.
Intren
Invenergy
Johnson and Johnson
Johnson Controls
Kellogg's
Keystone Electrical Manufacturing
Kingspan Insulated Panels, Inc.
Lakeshore Learning Materials
LAM Research
Levi Strauss & Co.
L'Oreal USA
Mars
McDonalds Corporation
Microsoft
Monsanto
National Label Company
Nike
Nestle
Novozymes
One3LED
Pacific Ethanol
Pepsi-Co
PG&E
POET
Portland General Electric
PwC US
Procter & Gamble
Qualcomm
Ricoh USA
Salesforce.com
Schneider Electric
Siemens Corporation
SONY Corporation of America
Starbucks
Syngenta/QCCP
Target
Tri-Global Energy
Unilever
UPS
Walmart
The Walt Disney Company
Xerox Corporation
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mairead-mcardle/81-companies-including-google-coca-cola-apple-join-obamas-fight-against
Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2017, 01:42:13 PM
'I represent the people of Pittsburgh NOT Paris': Trump pulls U.S. out of climate accord saying it is a foreign attempt to seize American jobs and American wealth - and is immediately attacked by Obama
Donald Trump is pulling the United States out of the Paris climate agreement that Barack Obama entered
President says he is protecting American jobs and accuses treaty of being designed to redistribute U.S. wealth to other countries
'I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh not Paris,' he said - 'It is time to make America great again.'
Obama reacted before Trump even finishing speaking, saying action means U.S. joins a small handful of nations that reject the future'
Trump told 'foreign leaders in Europe, Asia and across the world' they would not have a say over American jobs and American growth
Syria and Nicaragua are only other countries not in deal whose backers say is vital to stopping average temperatures growing by more than 2C this century
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner were said to have lobbied to stay in - and were not at the Rose Garden to witness the decision being announced
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4563932/Trump-announces-U-S-Paris-climate-accord.html
I'm sure Jared and Ivanka are fuming! Why, oh, why, doesn't he reconsider and get them the heck out of the White House?
Quote from: Ms.Independence on June 01, 2017, 03:28:47 PM
I'm sure Jared and Ivanka are fuming! Why, oh, why, doesn't he reconsider and get them the heck out of the White House?
I have a feeling Trump believes kids are to be seen, not heard, but keep them close and guide them, they have ohhhh sooo much to learn.
Here's the list of crony capitalists that wanted Trump to sign on with this scam. (thanks Solar!)
The companies that can do without my business (have signed the pledge):
American Express - I will start returning those applications for credit and business credit cards with a little note, instead.
Apple - Won't bother buying an Iphone.
Coca-Cola - no thanks, I'll go back to the cheaper store brands
Dell - Dude, their liberals!
GE - no appliances from them.
General Mills - done with their cereal
General Motors - that's the answer I wanted, my next truck will be a Nissan, Toyota, Ford or Dodge.
Google - Easy one, just changed the search engine to Duck-Duck.
Hershey's - bye! Unfortunately, wifey is going to have to settle for the expensive stuff.
Johnson and Johnson - We'll just look at the label, and pick the store brand instead.
Kellogg's - done with their cereal too!
McDonalds Corporation - Hello Wendy's, Arbys, Burger King
Microsoft - only because of required by the job.
Nestle - no bottled water, or chocolate from them again.
Pepsi-Co - store brands, Kroger has some pretty good soda, and BTW... I think I'll skip Pizza Hut & Taco Bell.
Procter & Gamble - Tooth Paste, Shaving cream, soap - eh, it's probably cheaper to switch brands.
Target - You guys already let my credit card information leak, this just 'seals the deal' as a 'no deal, pal'
UPS - when you absolutely have to be unAmerican, signing this crap - FedEx has an alternative answer.
Walmart - already cut W_A_Y back on Wally World
The Walt Disney Company - as I expected... why we never watched Bambi or darken the gates of the joint in FL or CA.
Thanks for the list Solar, all these companies wanted to let the world know where they stand on redistribution of American Tax Payer money.
If they really, REALLY believe in Global Warming - pull out your own wallet and throw your company profits at these ungrateful Europeans.
Quote from: Hoofer on June 01, 2017, 04:55:14 PM
Here's the list of crony capitalists that wanted Trump to sign on with this scam. (thanks Solar!)
The companies that can do without my business (have signed the pledge):
American Express - I will start returning those applications for credit and business credit cards with a little note, instead.
Apple - Won't bother buying an Iphone.
Coca-Cola - no thanks, I'll go back to the cheaper store brands
Dell - Dude, their liberals!
GE - no appliances from them.
General Mills - done with their cereal
General Motors - that's the answer I wanted, my next truck will be a Nissan, Toyota, Ford or Dodge.
Google - Easy one, just changed the search engine to Duck-Duck.
Hershey's - bye! Unfortunately, wifey is going to have to settle for the expensive stuff.
Johnson and Johnson - We'll just look at the label, and pick the store brand instead.
Kellogg's - done with their cereal too!
McDonalds Corporation - Hello Wendy's, Arbys, Burger King
Microsoft - only because of required by the job.
Nestle - no bottled water, or chocolate from them again.
Pepsi-Co - store brands, Kroger has some pretty good soda, and BTW... I think I'll skip Pizza Hut & Taco Bell.
Procter & Gamble - Tooth Paste, Shaving cream, soap - eh, it's probably cheaper to switch brands.
Target - You guys already let my credit card information leak, this just 'seals the deal' as a 'no deal, pal'
UPS - when you absolutely have to be unAmerican, signing this crap - FedEx has an alternative answer.
Walmart - already cut W_A_Y back on Wally World
The Walt Disney Company - as I expected... why we never watched Bambi or darken the gates of the joint in FL or CA.
Thanks for the list Solar, all these companies wanted to let the world know where they stand on redistribution of American Tax Payer money.
If they really, REALLY believe in Global Warming - pull out your own wallet and throw your company profits at these ungrateful Europeans.
I searched hard to find that list and that's from two years ago, so the list may have grown and shifted a bit.
I already boycott nearly all of these, so I can't make much of an impact, but glad to hear someone else will join the ranks. :cool:
I really do give credit to Trump, he was under serious pressure from these crony bastards as well as the gop'E because these are the money backers that keep the RINO Scum in office.
In searching for this list, I came across at least a dozen articles making excuses for why these bastards wanted the govt teat so badly, and every headline said:
"The Real Reason So Many Corporations Want Trump To Sign". Yeah, an obvious concerted effort to sway public opinion, and it failed.
They all claimed it was to level the playing field for the future. Total Bull Shit! All we have to do is kill off NAFTA and kick the UN out of the country and we'd level the field.
These corporations are only American in name, their loyalties went Marxist long ago.
Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2017, 05:45:38 PM
I searched hard to find that list and that's from two years ago, so the list may have grown and shifted a bit.
I already boycott nearly all of these, so I can't make much of an impact, but glad to hear someone else will join the ranks. :cool:
I really do give credit to Trump, he was under serious pressure from these crony bastards as well as the gop'E because these are the money backers that keep the RINO Scum in office.
In searching for this list, I came across at least a dozen articles making excuses for why these bastards wanted the govt teat so badly, and every headline said: "The Real Reason So Many Corporations Want Trump To Sign". Yeah, an obvious concerted effort to sway public opinion, and it failed.
They all claimed it was to level the playing field for the future. Total Bull Shit! All we have to do is kill off NAFTA and kick the UN out of the country and we'd level the field.
These corporations are only American in name, their loyalties went Marxist long ago.
Whatever you think of Trump that is another major campaign promise kept! With all the pressure he was under to keep the Paris Agreement it took real courage to stand on his convictions. He earned a real gold star today!
Quote from: redbeard on June 01, 2017, 05:53:22 PM
Whatever you think of Trump that is another major campaign promise kept! With all the pressure he was under to keep the Paris Agreement it took real courage to stand on his convictions. He earned a real gold star today!
He needed something after the last two weeks of press attacks, then Kathy gave him just the break he needed, and today he came out on top, so the next week is free run.
I will always credit Trump when he does the Right thing, but with the E'gop breathing down his neck, I don't expect too many victories to come along.
Good. It was a shit deal for the US, unenforceable and everyone benefits except for us.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 01, 2017, 07:52:49 PM
Good. It was a shit deal for the US, unenforceable and everyone benefits except for us.
While we foot the bill.
Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2017, 08:43:06 PM
While we foot the bill.
And Barry gets a legacy.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 01, 2017, 08:45:24 PM
And Barry gets a legacy.
I think the only thing Bath House Berry got was AIDS. His legacy was destroying the Dim party. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2017, 08:57:14 PM
I think the only thing Bath House Berry got was AIDS. His legacy was destroying the Dim party. :biggrin:
I think you've hit on something. The DNC was infected with a disease and the disease is Barry.
What should we call it?
The lib media are having a complete meltdown..... I am really loving this.
Quote from: taxed on June 01, 2017, 09:16:51 PM
The lib media are having a complete meltdown..... I am really loving this.
As mom would say "go get the washing in. There's gonna be a storm"
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 01, 2017, 09:30:15 PM
As mom would say "go get the washing in. There's gonna be a storm"
Bernie was so mad, he forgot to shut the lights off at one of his lake houses.
It was VERY important to see Trump follow through on this in the winds that were against him - dims, MSM, some RINOs, his kids, and several major companies. Adding these companies to the list, he weakened his support even further and they have some power to turn votes against him in their distributions of power. So Trump did what we know a real Conservative has to do in these times - go against the winds of the lib culture despite lib voter impact. That's something true politicians have been unwilling to do for years and exactly what we need ... someone to make the hard choices that fixes things and not waffle in inaction.
The funny thing is he threw the libs a bone ... that he'd be willing to consider re-entry in a similar agreement if the libs bring back a better deal than PCA. It sounds weak, but was genius. It makes them work to get the better deal instead of him.
I wish there was a way we could let him know how supportive the Conservatives are and why. I also wish he consider use of a similar tactic with other areas. For example, health care: just get the Pubs to appeal the law and put it back in the hands of the private sector and consider re-entry if the Dims / Rino's can come up with a better health care bill. It gets rid of BO-care, which is broken, and gets HC right-side up again. Then the Dims can own working for a new bill. He should be able to get the Pubs behind it using the promise that they can put in another form of HC after they rescue the US from BO-care.
He could just keep pounding on appeal as BO-care continues to disentigrate - until the people and the Pubs (and maybe even a few Dims) have no choice but to appeal. He could ask the private sector to write their approach and influence their practices. But others besides the White House would own the work of finding something better than free market after the appeal ... the libs could go on a snipe hunt the libs can go on if they like because they aren't going to find a govt. HC system that outperforms a truly free HC market.
This moved a little off-point ... but the message is that the tactic used with the PCA was excellent and can be applied to other areas. Trump always talks like he has a backbone and he demonstrated that he truly can stand tall and move in the right direction despite political winds. Nice work President Trump!
QuoteLeft-wing celebrities ripped President Donald Trump Thursday after he officially announced that the United States will withdraw from the Paris Climate Agreement.
... from Breitbart.
You do nothing but talk libs! And waste the money we earn. Quit squawking and bring a better deal forward - one that has a real mission, potential for real progress in some way, and is balanced in the contribution of world contributors. A deal that doesn't redistribute my work and earnings to other countries with no return. Tackle real problems ... maybe pollution in LA and Denver, or India and China if you like. Make your own deal and contributions to these "agreements" ... with the Internet, you don't need the government to get in the way of giving your money away if you like. But show me a better deal that actually accomplishes something and I will consider whether or not to contribute too. But it should be my choice - not the government just taking it from me. If you put together a good deal, then you might actually make a difference rather than bloviating against the loss of a bad deal.
Trump nailed it with "Pittsburgh" line. In one sentence he summed up why he is president. That statement just solidified his connection with the American people. This is a concept the left cannot understand and it totally confuses them. I hope he keeps it up.
Quote from: taxed on June 02, 2017, 12:32:02 AM
Bernie was so mad, he forgot to shut the lights off at one of his lake houses.
Now you know Bernie does not do manual labor.
Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2017, 08:57:14 PM
I think the only thing Bath House Berry got was AIDS. His legacy was destroying the Dim party. :biggrin:
Speaking of Hussein's legacy, this fool's (p)Residential LIEberry will not have the original documents, but only digital ones.
QuoteScheduled to open in 2021, the Obama Presidential Center will rise in Jackson Park on the South Side. In a break from tradition, former President Barack Obama's official papers and artifacts will not be housed there but will be digitized and stored elsewhere by the National Archives and Records Administration and made available through loans.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/obamalibrary/ct-obama-center-museum-director-met-0531-20170531-story.htmlOne presumes that the real documents will either be just shredded outright, in the same wholehearted and honest spirit of honoring American law, as Obama has shown us, or loaned out and mysteriously never returned. It's not often you see the opening of a new memory hole.
Senator Rand Paul set the record straight on this scam of the Paris Climate Accord.
Great job Senator, great job...!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1lA3F1i_Qs
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 01, 2017, 09:03:05 PM
I think you've hit on something. The DNC was infected with a disease and the disease is Barry.
What should we call it?
Funny, isn't it? We all know the disease, it's been around since the beginning of time, but it has many names, most recently, Progressive, liberal, Marxist, Communism.
But that was only in the recent century, prior to that it was Muhammad, before that, every despotic ruler and going further back, the Catholic Church, the Devil himself.
But truth is, I've always seen it as greed and corruption, the embodiment of Evil itself.
This coming decade, its face is:
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And it's surrogate is the dim party.
"I Was elected to represent Pittsburgh, Not Paris"
Since I grew up in a little steel town in Pa not too far from Pittsburgh, you have no idea how proud that made me feel of PRESIDENT Trump....seeing the steel industry hammered by EPA regs and bad trade deals has been heart breaking.
A lot of blue collar workers are cheering Trump right now knowing they voted for the right man.
I've been listening to a few discussions on this topic in the news and realized that I'm more confused than I thought. School me here ... I must be missing something.
So the President has decided to pull out of the Paris Climate Accord. But POTUS's job is executive - enforce the laws. What does non-participation in PCA have to do with his role in government?
I also heard that we have no real obligation to PCA. So being in and not doing anything would have been just as effective it seems.
Also that it will take three years to get out of the agreement ... so it will take three years to get out of an agreement for which we have no obligations?
I also heard that we were on track to ship some part of $100B (that's BILLION!!!) off somewhere ... which sounds like an obligation or at least a choice someone was making inline with an obligation of some sort. That would be funds allocated in the congressional budget. The president doesn't participate on decisions about who to write hundred-billion dollar checks to in his executive role unless a law is being broken.
A related aside: We saw that BO, under the CR's, amassed huge debt (essentially doubled it). But BO wasn't writing the checks ... how was he authorized to spend so much money? It's probably the same mechanism that would be used if we participated in PCA. Is it that Congress approves a CR then POTUS can direct funds to be paid by the GAO? What changes if there is an approved congressional budget?
So, while it felt very good for President Trump to recognize that IF this were an obligation for the US, it was a bad one and for him to act like he is choosing to get us out of a bad deal. But if it wasn't a real obligation anyway, what did Trump really do? And if it is an obligation, he doesn't have the power to change the obligation.
Help! I must not understand what really happened ... or, worse, maybe I do ... and what really happened was nothing. Although the libs sure act like something changed.
Maybe it's just that Trump went on record and is choosing not to promote congress to act in alignment with the PCA so there won't be any funds in the budget allocated to this. That would get the global alarmists temperatures rising. But, in the end, it's about where funds are spent or not spent ... follow the money.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on June 02, 2017, 06:50:55 AM
"I Was elected to represent Pittsburgh, Not Paris"
Since I grew up in a little steel town in Pa not too far from Pittsburgh, you have no idea how proud that made me feel of PRESIDENT Trump....seeing the steel industry hammered by EPA regs and bad trade deals has been heart breaking.
A lot of blue collar workers are cheering Trump right now knowing they voted for the right man.
It was a brilliant line!
Quote from: topside on June 02, 2017, 11:28:32 AM
I've been listening to a few discussions on this topic in the news and realized that I'm more confused than I thought. School me here ... I must be missing something.
So the President has decided to pull out of the Paris Climate Accord. But POTUS's job is executive - enforce the laws. What does non-participation in PCA have to do with his role in government?
I also heard that we have no real obligation to PCA. So being in and not doing anything would have been just as effective it seems.
Also that it will take three years to get out of the agreement ... so it will take three years to get out of an agreement for which we have no obligations?
I also heard that we were on track to ship some part of $100B (that's BILLION!!!) off somewhere ... which sounds like an obligation or at least a choice someone was making inline with an obligation of some sort. That would be funds allocated in the congressional budget. The president doesn't participate on decisions about who to write hundred-billion dollar checks to in his executive role unless a law is being broken.
A related aside: We saw that BO, under the CR's, amassed huge debt (essentially doubled it). But BO wasn't writing the checks ... how was he authorized to spend so much money? It's probably the same mechanism that would be used if we participated in PCA. Is it that Congress approves a CR then POTUS can direct funds to be paid by the GAO? What changes if there is an approved congressional budget?
So, while it felt very good for President Trump to recognize that IF this were an obligation for the US, it was a bad one and for him to act like he is choosing to get us out of a bad deal. But if it wasn't a real obligation anyway, what did Trump really do? And if it is an obligation, he doesn't have the power to change the obligation.
Help! I must not understand what really happened ... or, worse, maybe I do ... and what really happened was nothing. Although the libs sure act like something changed.
Maybe it's just that Trump went on record and is choosing not to promote congress to act in alignment with the PCA so there won't be any funds in the budget allocated to this. That would get the global alarmists temperatures rising. But, in the end, it's about where funds are spent or not spent ... follow the money.
There was a lot of "voluntary" BS in the agreement, but the USA was still on the hook for $100B. Trump could do thid because Obama would not send it to the senate for ratification. Trump saw it for what it was. It was nothing more than a scheme to redistribute wealth from the US to the rest of the world.
Fellow Conservative:
President Trump has announced that he will take steps to withdraw
the United States from the Paris climate agreement.
This is great news.
The president's decision sends a clear message that the
environmental extremists around the globe will not dictate our
economic policies.
Please thank President Trump for keeping his campaign promise to
protect America's energy independence.
Send him a personal email to express your support.
President Obama sought to force this job-killing international
climate treaty on the American people without the consent of the
Senate.
The climate accord is estimated to cost our economy trillions of
dollars and eliminate millions of American jobs. It also will
force American taxpayers to pay $3 billion to the U.N. Green
Climate Fund.
This is a very bad deal.
During the campaign, Donald Trump said, "We're going to cancel
the Paris Climate Agreement and stop all payments of U.S. tax
dollars to U.N. global warming programs."
Now, he has delivered on this promise.
Click here to thank the president for this decision.
While establishment Republicans like Mitt Romney have criticized
this decision, this climate agreement is a raw deal for
Americans.
Thank you for standing strong for freedom and for being part of
our team to promote conservative policies.
Sincerely,
Ken Cuccinelli II
President, Senate Conservatives Action
Former Attorney General of Virginia
Title of the thread should be "Trump Forces World Off of Americas Teet"...
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 01, 2017, 09:03:05 PM
I think you've hit on something. The DNC was infected with a disease and the disease is Barry.
What should we call it?
Pelosi-Barritus. Causes softening of the spinal column, the first sign is frequently bending over. Later stages affect the memory, unable to recall Trump is president, not Bush. Final stage is passing legislation at any cost, without reading it (we have to pass it, to find out what's in it).
Quote from: topside on June 02, 2017, 04:01:52 AM
It was VERY important to see Trump follow through on this in the winds that were against him - dims, MSM, some RINOs, his kids, and several major companies. Adding these companies to the list, he weakened his support even further and they have some power to turn votes against him in their distributions of power. So Trump did what we know a real Conservative has to do in these times - go against the winds of the lib culture despite lib voter impact. That's something true politicians have been unwilling to do for years and exactly what we need ... someone to make the hard choices that fixes things and not waffle in inaction.
The funny thing is he threw the libs a bone ... that he'd be willing to consider re-entry in a similar agreement if the libs bring back a better deal than PCA. It sounds weak, but was genius. It makes them work to get the better deal instead of him.
I wish there was a way we could let him know how supportive the Conservatives are and why. I also wish he consider use of a similar tactic with other areas. For example, health care: just get the Pubs to appeal the law and put it back in the hands of the private sector and consider re-entry if the Dims / Rino's can come up with a better health care bill. It gets rid of BO-care, which is broken, and gets HC right-side up again. Then the Dims can own working for a new bill. He should be able to get the Pubs behind it using the promise that they can put in another form of HC after they rescue the US from BO-care.
He could just keep pounding on appeal as BO-care continues to disentigrate - until the people and the Pubs (and maybe even a few Dims) have no choice but to appeal. He could ask the private sector to write their approach and influence their practices. But others besides the White House would own the work of finding something better than free market after the appeal ... the libs could go on a snipe hunt the libs can go on if they like because they aren't going to find a govt. HC system that outperforms a truly free HC market.
This moved a little off-point ... but the message is that the tactic used with the PCA was excellent and can be applied to other areas. Trump always talks like he has a backbone and he demonstrated that he truly can stand tall and move in the right direction despite political winds. Nice work President Trump!
What? He gains votes by doing this. This is a popular move. He doesn't lose votes over this.