Trump pulls U.S. out of climate accord

Started by Solar, June 01, 2017, 01:42:13 PM

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Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 01, 2017, 08:45:24 PM
And Barry gets a legacy.
I think the only thing Bath House Berry got was AIDS. His legacy was destroying the Dim party. :biggrin:
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Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2017, 08:57:14 PM
I think the only thing Bath House Berry got was AIDS. His legacy was destroying the Dim party. :biggrin:

I think you've hit on something. The DNC was infected with a disease and the disease is Barry.

What should we call it?

taxed

The lib media are having a complete meltdown.....  I am really loving this.
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Quote from: taxed on June 01, 2017, 09:16:51 PM
The lib media are having a complete meltdown.....  I am really loving this.
As mom would say "go get the washing in. There's gonna be a storm"

taxed

Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 01, 2017, 09:30:15 PM
As mom would say "go get the washing in. There's gonna be a storm"

Bernie was so mad, he forgot to shut the lights off at one of his lake houses.
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It was VERY important to see Trump follow through on this in the winds that were against him - dims, MSM, some RINOs, his kids, and several major companies. Adding these companies to the list, he weakened his support even further and they have some power to turn votes against him in their distributions of power. So Trump did what we know a real Conservative has to do in these times - go against the winds of the lib culture despite lib voter impact. That's something true politicians have been unwilling to do for years and exactly what we need ... someone to make the hard choices that fixes things and not waffle in inaction. 

The funny thing is he threw the libs a bone ... that he'd be willing to consider re-entry in a similar agreement if the libs bring back a better deal than PCA. It sounds weak, but was genius. It makes them work to get the better deal instead of him.

I wish there was a way we could let him know how supportive the Conservatives are and why. I also wish he consider use of a similar tactic with other areas. For example, health care: just get the Pubs to appeal the law and put it back in the hands of the private sector and consider re-entry if the Dims / Rino's can come up with a better health care bill. It gets rid of BO-care, which is broken, and gets HC right-side up again. Then the Dims can own working for a new bill. He should be able to get the Pubs behind it using the promise that they can put in another form of HC after they rescue the US from BO-care.

He could just keep pounding on appeal as BO-care continues to disentigrate - until the people and the Pubs (and maybe even a few Dims) have no choice but to appeal. He could ask the private sector to write their approach and influence their practices. But others besides the White House would own the work of finding something better than free market after the appeal ... the libs could go on a snipe hunt the libs can go on if they like because they aren't going to find a govt. HC system that outperforms a truly free HC market.

This moved a little off-point ... but the message is that the tactic used with the PCA was excellent and can be applied to other areas. Trump always talks like he has a backbone and he demonstrated that he truly can stand tall and move in the right direction despite political winds. Nice work President Trump!

topside

QuoteLeft-wing celebrities ripped President Donald Trump Thursday after he officially announced that the United States will withdraw from the Paris Climate Agreement.
... from Breitbart.

You do nothing but talk libs! And waste the money we earn. Quit squawking and bring a better deal forward - one that has a real mission, potential for real progress in some way, and is balanced in the contribution of world contributors. A deal that doesn't redistribute my work and earnings to other countries with no return.  Tackle real problems ... maybe pollution in LA and Denver, or India and China if you like. Make your own deal and contributions to these "agreements" ... with the Internet, you don't need the government to get in the way of giving your money away if you like. But show me a better deal that actually accomplishes something and I will consider whether or not to contribute too. But it should be my choice - not the government just taking it from me. If you put together a good deal, then you might actually make a difference rather than bloviating against the loss of a bad deal.

supsalemgr

Trump nailed it with "Pittsburgh" line. In one sentence he summed up why he is president. That statement just solidified his connection with the American people. This is a concept the left cannot understand and it totally confuses them. I hope he keeps it up.
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Quote from: taxed on June 02, 2017, 12:32:02 AM
Bernie was so mad, he forgot to shut the lights off at one of his lake houses.

Now you know Bernie does not do manual labor. 
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Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2017, 08:57:14 PM
I think the only thing Bath House Berry got was AIDS. His legacy was destroying the Dim party. :biggrin:

Speaking of Hussein's legacy, this fool's (p)Residential LIEberry will not have the original documents, but only digital ones.

QuoteScheduled to open in 2021, the Obama Presidential Center will rise in Jackson Park on the South Side. In a break from tradition, former President Barack Obama's official papers and artifacts will not be housed there but will be digitized and stored elsewhere by the National Archives and Records Administration and made available through loans.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/obamalibrary/ct-obama-center-museum-director-met-0531-20170531-story.html

One presumes that the real documents will either be just shredded outright, in the same wholehearted and honest spirit of honoring American law, as Obama has shown us, or loaned out and mysteriously never returned. It's not often you see the opening of a new memory hole.

Bronx

Senator Rand Paul set the record straight on this scam of the Paris Climate Accord.

Great job Senator, great job...!


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Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 01, 2017, 09:03:05 PM
I think you've hit on something. The DNC was infected with a disease and the disease is Barry.

What should we call it?
Funny, isn't it? We all know the disease, it's been around since the beginning of time, but it has many names, most recently, Progressive, liberal, Marxist, Communism.
But that was only in the recent century, prior to that it was Muhammad, before that, every despotic ruler and going further back, the Catholic Church, the Devil himself.
But truth is, I've always seen it as greed and corruption, the embodiment of Evil itself.

This coming decade, its face is:




And it's surrogate is the dim party.
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Billy's bayonet

"I Was elected to represent Pittsburgh, Not Paris"

Since I grew up in a little steel town in Pa not too far from Pittsburgh, you have no idea how proud that made me feel of PRESIDENT Trump....seeing the steel industry hammered by EPA regs and bad trade deals has been heart breaking.
A lot of blue collar workers are cheering Trump right now knowing they voted for the right man.
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topside

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I've been listening to a few discussions on this topic in the news and realized that I'm more confused than I thought. School me here ... I must be missing something.

So the President has decided to pull out of the Paris Climate Accord. But POTUS's job is executive - enforce the laws. What does non-participation in PCA have to do with his role in government?

I also heard that we have no real obligation to PCA. So being in and not doing anything would have been just as effective it seems.

Also that it will take three years to get out of the agreement ... so it will take three years to get out of an agreement for which we have no obligations?

I also heard that we were on track to ship some part of $100B (that's BILLION!!!) off somewhere ... which sounds like an obligation or at least a choice someone was making inline with an obligation of some sort. That would be funds allocated in the congressional budget. The president doesn't participate on decisions about who to write hundred-billion dollar checks to in his executive role unless a law is being broken.

A related aside: We saw that BO, under the CR's, amassed huge debt (essentially doubled it). But BO wasn't writing the checks ... how was he authorized to spend so much money? It's probably the same mechanism that would be used if we participated in PCA. Is it that Congress approves a CR then POTUS can direct funds to be paid by the GAO? What changes if there is an approved congressional budget?

So, while it felt very good for President Trump to recognize that IF this were an obligation for the US, it was a bad one and for him to act like he is choosing to get us out of a bad deal. But if it wasn't a real obligation anyway, what did Trump really do? And if it is an obligation, he doesn't have the power to change the obligation.

Help! I must not understand what really happened ... or, worse, maybe I do ... and what really happened was nothing. Although the libs sure act like something changed.

Maybe it's just that Trump went on record and is choosing not to promote congress to act in alignment with the PCA so there won't be any funds in the budget allocated to this. That would get the global alarmists temperatures rising.  But, in the end, it's about where funds are spent or not spent ... follow the money.

supsalemgr

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on June 02, 2017, 06:50:55 AM
"I Was elected to represent Pittsburgh, Not Paris"

Since I grew up in a little steel town in Pa not too far from Pittsburgh, you have no idea how proud that made me feel of PRESIDENT Trump....seeing the steel industry hammered by EPA regs and bad trade deals has been heart breaking.
A lot of blue collar workers are cheering Trump right now knowing they voted for the right man.

It was a brilliant line!
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