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Trump says he could use the MILITARY to build his wall if Congress won't fund it through Homeland Security's budget - and he won't rule out another government shutdown to get his way
DailyMail.com asked the president on Air Force One if he was considering using the Army Corps of Engineers to build his border wall
Congress has been stingy with a Homeland Security budget for the project, providing barely $3 billion and leaving another $25 billion unfunded
Pentagon officials say the Corps of Engineers is suited to perform the work and Trump has boasted about budget increases he has won for the Pentagon
Trump says: 'We have two options: We have military, we have homeland security'
He also said he won't take a government shutdown off the table if Democrats on Capitol Hill keep playing hardball because of immigration politics
He believes a shutdown would be strategically and politically smart
But many Republican lawmakers are counseling patience because they fear being blamed for a shutdown in the final month of re-elecion campaigns
President Donald Trump said Friday that he's considering using military resources to finish construction of his long-promised border wall instead of relying on Congress to fund the project through the Homeland Security Department's budget.
He also wouldn't eliminate the possibility of a government shutdown if Democrats continue to confound his efforts to appropriate money for the project on the U.S.-Mexico border.
'We have two options,' he told DailyMail.com aboard Air Force One as he flew from Billings, Montana to Fargo, North Dakota. 'We have military, we have homeland security.'
He was asked specifically about using the Army Corps of Engineers as a taxpayer-funded construction crew.
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President Donald Trump said Friday that he's considering using military resources to finish construction of his long-promised border wall, as she spoke to the press on Air Force One, above on Friday
Pics and video.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6144837/Trump-says-use-MILITARY-build-wall-Congress-wont-fund-DHS.html
It would be good training for the Army Corps of Engineers.
Quote from: walkstall on September 08, 2018, 08:48:43 AM
It would be good training for the Army Corps of Engineers.
We send engineers from all branches all over the world for training, 24/7.
Building the wall would be a small piece of that training program, for both materials and labor.
Not sure why Trump didn't already tell them to shove it, and do this.
I'm worried about Trump not being a little more forceful on this context.
Just like the criminal cases.
Tell some folks to fuck off, we have criminals to prosecute, and do it already.
I think Trump may still be listening to just a little too much bullshit from Obama plants and RINO pretenders.
Yes, I know it's all about the elections and Kavenaugh and not giving the left any ammo.
OK, so let's do nothing until that's all done.
There had better be some haulin ass after that, next damned day, or this is all bullshit.
Quote from: AndyJackson on September 08, 2018, 09:38:19 AM
We send engineers from all branches all over the world for training, 24/7.
Building the wall would be a small piece of that training program, for both materials and labor.
Not sure why Trump didn't already tell them to shove it, and do this.
I'm worried about Trump not being a little more forceful on this context.
Just like the criminal cases.
Tell some folks to fuck off, we have criminals to prosecute, and do it already.
I think Trump may still be listening to just a little too much bullshit from Obama plants and RINO pretenders.
Yes, I know it's all about the elections and Kavenaugh and not giving the left any ammo.
OK, so let's do nothing until that's all done.
There had better be some haulin ass after that, next damned day, or this is all bullshit.
What Trump just did here, is what is known as "Floating a Balloon" in politics.
You make a public announcement, then see who comes begging. In this case, Trump just stole the RINO fire they've been building under Trump to get concessions, but Trump just threw water on that fire by making this announcement and there isn't a damned thing they can do about it since they already signed the budget.
Dude, how long you been watching politics, and you still don't get negotiating tactics?
Quote from: Solar on September 08, 2018, 10:01:57 AM
What Trump just did here, is what is known as "Floating a Balloon" in politics.
You make a public announcement, then see who comes begging. In this case, Trump just stole the RINO fire they've been building under Trump to get concessions, but Trump just threw water on that fire by making this announcement and there isn't a damned thing they can do about it since they already signed the budget.
Dude, how long you been watching politics, and you still don't get negotiating tactics?
Been watching politics since voting for Reagan, know Trumps negotiating skills, full well.
I also know that we are 2 months until the deadline for making silly excuses.
Beyond mid-terms and Kavanaugh, putting things off is a loser. It's a sign that something's screwed up. Either we're being bullshitted by Trump, or Trump is being bullshitted by somebody.
Flame away, insult, ban, whatever's needed.
Quote from: AndyJackson on September 08, 2018, 10:16:14 AM
Been watching politics since voting for Reagan, know Trumps negotiating skills, full well.
I also know that we are 2 months until the deadline for making silly excuses.
Beyond mid-terms and Kavanaugh, putting things off is a loser. It's a sign that something's screwed up. Either we're being bullshitted by Trump, or Trump is being bullshitted by somebody.
Flame away, insult, ban, whatever's needed.
WTF are you yapping about now? I don't care how long you've been voting, you're still wet behind the ears where negotiations are concerned, and Trump is playing serious hardball here.
Kavanaugh's vote has not been put off, it's right on schedule, or are you not paying attention?
And what does Midterms have to do with anything, or are you under some warped illusion the left has a farts chance in space of miraculously recovering from all the hate and damage they've inflicted on the country.?
Sorry Andy, I don't ban because someone is stupid, no, I keep them around to make an example of. Keep posting, I'm only warming up.
Quote from: Solar on September 08, 2018, 11:19:35 AM
WTF are you yapping about now? I don't care how long you've been voting, you're still wet behind the ears where negotiations are concerned, and Trump is playing serious hardball here.
Kavanaugh's vote has not been put off, it's right on schedule, or are you not paying attention?
And what does Midterms have to do with anything, or are you under some warped illusion the left has a farts chance in space of miraculously recovering from all the hate and damage they've inflicted on the country.?
Sorry Andy, I don't ban because someone is stupid, no, I keep them around to make an example of. Keep posting, I'm only warming up.
Lol, I never said Kavanaugh was put off. I'm talking about the prosecution of the dem / FBI crimes being put off, which is our one and only argument. Hard to follow, eh ?
I never said the dems would win anything, I'm talking about putting off various indictments until after the midterms. Hard to follow, eh ?
Harken back to what I actually said or referenced. "Building the wall" and "criminal cases".
You banned me once for YOU being stupid, in the argument about Benghazi, F&F, IRS, etc.
You being arrogant about being wrong is weird, indeed. But we are simply what we are.
Get warmed up, for sure. Should make for quite a spectacle.
Quit acting like the boy whose momma owns the candy store.
Of course securing the construction zone with a few rifle companies of ground pounding grunts....great way to "Declare Martial Law" without declaring Martial Law.
:popcorn:
Quote from: AndyJackson on September 08, 2018, 09:38:19 AM
We send engineers from all branches all over the world for training, 24/7.
Building the wall would be a small piece of that training program, for both materials and labor.
Not sure why Trump didn't already tell them to shove it, and do this.
I'm worried about Trump not being a little more forceful on this context.
Just like the criminal cases.
Tell some folks to fuck off, we have criminals to prosecute, and do it already.
I think Trump may still be listening to just a little too much bullshit from Obama plants and RINO pretenders.
Yes, I know it's all about the elections and Kavenaugh and not giving the left any ammo.
OK, so let's do nothing until that's all done.
There had better be some haulin ass after that, next damned day, or this is all bullshit.
Look at it this way, congress is all about negotiation on the budget, only every time they agree on anything the tax payer gets screwed. Congress wants something from Trump and is using the wall to get it. Trump just took it off the negotiating
table and will still get the wall. there has to be a panic now going on in congress to get what they want. Much the same way China was offering the fat little pig to Trump for concessions on the trade talks. So Trump cancelled the meetings (for the time being) with the fat little pig to take away China's bait. Watching Trump I can see one hell of a business negotiator, but hope he is getting all the help he can in the justice department. I have to keep reminding myself, he has not even been in office 2 years. Justice will come. Hope this makes some sense.
Quote from: s3779m on September 08, 2018, 03:44:49 PM
Look at it this way, congress is all about negotiation on the budget, only every time they agree on anything the tax payer gets screwed. Congress wants something from Trump and is using the wall to get it. Trump just took it off the negotiating
table and will still get the wall. there has to be a panic now going on in congress to get what they want. Much the same way China was offering the fat little pig to Trump for concessions on the trade talks. So Trump cancelled the meetings (for the time being) with the fat little pig to take away China's bait. Watching Trump I can see one hell of a business negotiator, but hope he is getting all the help he can in the justice department. I have to keep reminding myself, he has not even been in office 2 years. Justice will come. Hope this makes some sense.
AndyJackson
This shit has been going on for over 80+ years that I know of. It's not all going to be cleaned up in two or three years. AndyJackson can not have it all right now! What I mean right now is with in the next two year. Trump is work with more then just 535 members of congress. This is not like going our and buying a house and demanding everything in it all at once.
Trump is working with everyone and his brother that's trying to kill him off. He is not the CEO of government, he can not just walk in and say your fired, change this now or your out the door.
Hell we can not even control what congress get pay or their fringe benefits they give each other.
Quote from: AndyJackson on September 08, 2018, 12:39:24 PM
Lol, I never said Kavanaugh was put off. I'm talking about the prosecution of the dem / FBI crimes being put off, which is our one and only argument. Hard to follow, eh ?
Your words:
"Beyond mid-terms and
Kavanaugh, putting things off is a loser."
QuoteHarken back to what I actually said or referenced. "Building the wall" and "criminal cases".
You banned me once for YOU being stupid, in the argument about Benghazi, F&F, IRS, etc.
Go ahead and prove that BS! I never even responded to the post you claim I banned you over.
You were banned for being a total dick and a complete pessimist, claiming we were going to lose everything, essentially a Chicken Little, the sky is falling and the forum was sick of it. That's why you got the boot, and here you are again, whining like a little spoiled brat.
And here we are today, with a President that's totally kicking ass, and all you can do is whine, it's not happening fast enough.
QuoteYou being arrogant about being wrong is weird, indeed. But we are simply what we are.
Wrong about what? I've been saying for years now, that the Dim party is dead, they killed themselves, how is that wrong?
I also stated that they will be out of power for at least 3 decades.
QuoteGet warmed up, for sure. Should make for quite a spectacle.
Quit acting like the boy whose momma owns the candy store.
Quit acting like a spoiled brat that whines to his dad that the road trip is taking too long.
Enjoy the ride, you''re missing the best part, we're seeing history unfold before our very eyes and all you can do is bitch that he's not doing it fast enough for you.
Tell us Andy, name one thing Trump has done that pissed you off so much that you have to shit on all the good news
Quote from: s3779m on September 08, 2018, 03:44:49 PM
Look at it this way, congress is all about negotiation on the budget, only every time they agree on anything the tax payer gets screwed. Congress wants something from Trump and is using the wall to get it. Trump just took it off the negotiating
table and will still get the wall. there has to be a panic now going on in congress to get what they want. Much the same way China was offering the fat little pig to Trump for concessions on the trade talks. So Trump cancelled the meetings (for the time being) with the fat little pig to take away China's bait. Watching Trump I can see one hell of a business negotiator, but hope he is getting all the help he can in the justice department. I have to keep reminding myself, he has not even been in office 2 years. Justice will come. Hope this makes some sense.
Exactly Correct!
Quote from: s3779m on September 08, 2018, 03:44:49 PM
Look at it this way, congress is all about negotiation on the budget, only every time they agree on anything the tax payer gets screwed. Congress wants something from Trump and is using the wall to get it. Trump just took it off the negotiating
table and will still get the wall. there has to be a panic now going on in congress to get what they want. Much the same way China was offering the fat little pig to Trump for concessions on the trade talks. So Trump cancelled the meetings (for the time being) with the fat little pig to take away China's bait. Watching Trump I can see one hell of a business negotiator, but hope he is getting all the help he can in the justice department. I have to keep reminding myself, he has not even been in office 2 years. Justice will come. Hope this makes some sense.
Exactly. Now the constituents of the GOP will ask "wait, why did the President have to go that route?".
We still only disagree on one small thing, the speed of the criminal proceedings.
I am not even amused anymore, by whatever else you guys keep wrapping it in and magnifying it with.
But have at it, it's apparently fun in some strange way if you can't stop, lol.
Quote from: Solar on September 08, 2018, 09:58:12 PM
Your words:
"Beyond mid-terms and Kavanaugh, putting things off is a loser."
Dude ....... you do see that comma ..... don't you ?
Means "putting off the prosecutions beyond mid-terms and Kavenaugh". Is. A. Loser.
Yikes. I am mortified.
Quote from: walkstall on September 08, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
AndyJackson
This shit has been going on for over 80+ years that I know of. It's not all going to be cleaned up in two or three years. AndyJackson can not have it all right now! What I mean right now is with in the next two year. Trump is work with more then just 535 members of congress. This is not like going our and buying a house and demanding everything in it all at once.
Trump is working with everyone and his brother that's trying to kill him off. He is not the CEO of government, he can not just walk in and say your fired, change this now or your out the door.
Hell we can not even control what congress get pay or their fringe benefits they give each other.
I agree on the whole huge rat's nest. Can't all be fixed, probably even in 4 years. Maybe 8, that would be great.
What I keep saying is that some things like the Weiner Laptop, the Awans, the JFK files, the sexual harassment payoffs ...... are standalone, good to go now.
I feel that Trump is being convinced that these are "too hot, too much". Most likely by somebody buying time to help the culprits. Or, much worse, he doesn't want to do it, all for his own reasons.
You guys appear to believe that everything is riveted together, no one thing can go without the other 10,000,000,000 things.
That's where we part ways, Very simple. Not confusing whatsoever. Not sure why it must be screamed and hollered and moaned and groaned about. I don't need to. I just say what I believe.
Quote from: AndyJackson on September 09, 2018, 08:59:54 PM
We still only disagree on one small thing, the speed of the criminal proceedings.
I am not even amused anymore, by whatever else you guys keep wrapping it in and magnifying it with.
But have at it, it's apparently fun in some strange way if you can't stop, lol.
"One Small Thing"? So proving you wrong is supposed to be some kind of game?
No my little troll, exposing posers is the game, educating ignorant fools is our job. People come here for several reasons and read, some are leftists trying to see if we are unified, others to learn what all this shit means, some for the unity, and what do you offer?
Not one fuckin thing but pessimism and ignorance because you didn't see in on leftist news.
No, you're blind to what is taking place because the LSM doesn't tell you about it, so you don't know what's happening and you're obviously too damn lazy to go out and search for the truth, no, you'd rather come here and whine about shit you know absolutely nothing about.
For example, try and dispute Q's short list of Trump's draining of the swamp, the very scum you claim nothing is being done about.
And yes Andy, this has all been reported on,
in right wing news, not the LSM, so it's understandable you missed it.
Take this one for example. Do you not see it, do you not see what Trump is accomplishing here? And yes, trials will follow, but you first have to remove them from power.
Then there's the issue with backlogged courts and lack of qualified judges, but that's a part of the puzzle that escapes your pessimistic ass.
So what in the Hell is your problem?
Ya know what Will Rodgers used to say about opening your mouth, Right?
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FBI & DOJ CORRUPTION
FEDERAL BUREAU OF "INVESTIGATION"
James Comey, Director – FIRED
Andrew McCabe, Deputy Director - FIRED
Jim Rybicki, Chief of Staff and Senior Counselor – FIRED
James Baker, General Counsel – FIRED
Bill Priestap, Director of Counterintelligence (Strzok's boss) – Cooperating witness [power removed]
Peter Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence – FIRED
Lisa Page, Office of General Counsel – FIRED/FORCED
Mike Kortan, Assistant Director for Public Affairs – FIRED
Josh Campbell, Special Assistant to Comey – FIRED
Michael Steinbach -
John Glacalone -
Randy Coleman -
Trisha Anderson -
Kevin Clinesmith -
Tashina Gauhar -
Sally Moyer -
DEPARTMENT OF "JUSTICE"
David Laufman, Chief of the Justice Department's Counterintelligence and Export Control Section [NAT SEC - HRC email invest] - FIRED/FORCE
John Carlin, Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ's National Security Division - FIRED/FORCED
Sally Yates, Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General - FIRED
Mary McCord, Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ's National Security Division - FIRED/FORCED
Bruce Ohr, Associate Deputy Attorney General – Demoted 2x - cooperating witness [power removed] - TERMINATION IMMINENT
Rachel Brand, Associate Attorney General – No. 3 official behind Deputy AG Rosenstein - FIRED/FORCED
Nothing to See Here.
WHO ORDERED?
[PDB]
Q
In this post, Q explains partially why things are moving slowly, one reason is the Con leadership of the GOP, he is not helping Trump make judicial appointments fast enough to keep up with all the indictments.
The "Experts"
But... SESSIONS should appoint a 2nd SC in DC aka THE CORRUPT SWAMP
But... SESSIONS should appoint a 2nd SC in DC aka THE CORRUPT SWAMP [team of less than 20 typically] & wait 2-4 years [take a gamble]
But... SESSIONS should appoint a 2nd SC in DC aka THE CORRUPT SWAMP because unlike the CLINTON EMAIL CORRUPT CASE [as demonstrated by the FBI/DOJ people FIRED/REMOVED] this will be conducted faithfully and honestly [like MUELLER]
But... HUBER has not 'directly' interviewed several witnesses therefore the appointment of HUBER by SESSIONS [and therefore the IG] is not genuine
But... SESSIONS & HUBER are following standard DOJ open/ongoing investigation policy by not discussing [making public] so therefore nothing must be happening [FIRE SESSIONS!]
But... HUBER [ability to prosecute + empanel a grand jury outside of DC [90%+ voted HRC (2016)], who already began the investigation(s) late last year w/ assigned team of 470 investigators (attorneys) + IG + legal jurisdiction across all 50 states, is not a 'special counsel' so therefore nothing is being done
But... POTUS is attacking SESSIONS via TWITTER so therefore he is not working on behalf of the people's interest (or POTUS') [D's/LEFT LOVE/TRUST SESSIONS!]
But... interestingly, if nothing is being done behind the scenes, why are so many FBI & DOJ senior officials being FIRED and/or REMOVED from their respective positions of power? Who is AG? Who must sign off on each removal? DOJ in charge of FBI?
But... interestingly, if nothing is being done behind the scenes, why are there 50,000+ sealed indictments across the US [what % = USA v. X?]? Coincidence vs. HUBER start?
But... interestingly, if nothing is being done behind the scenes, why are many 'powerful' CEOs, members of Congress/ Senate, resigning? Coincidence? Example: Pre_POTUS did the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE indicate wanting to leave politics?
But... interestingly, if nothing is being done behind the scenes, why are human trafficking arrests SURGING?
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That's a lotta anger for one post. Go see the doctor, make sure nothing's about to blow.
I have seen / read everything that you angrily chucked out here. And I still have an opinion. There is such a thing as "took too long", it happens in every aspect of life.
I can easily be proven wrong, and I hope I am. But it won't be thru your ranting, it will be thru arrests and prosecutions.
Quote from: AndyJackson on September 10, 2018, 01:01:17 PM
That's a lotta anger for one post. Go see the doctor, make sure nothing's about to blow.
I have seen / read everything that you angrily chucked out here. And I still have an opinion. There is such a thing as "took too long", it happens in every aspect of life.
I can easily be proven wrong, and I hope I am. But it won't be thru your ranting, it will be thru arrests and prosecutions.
You're like an incorrigible child. You whine that nothing is happening, I give you proof that it is, and now you claim it's just fast enough for you? MMove goal posts often Andy?
Did you not see where this has nothing to do with Trump not trying? The left is obstructing every way possible, be it, ambassadors or judges, they are doing their best to obstruct.
Trump may have appointed more than 100 judges, but unless they're approved, prosecutions will remain backlogged.
Your anger is ignorantly misdirected, none of this is Trump dragging his feet, the blame lies with McCon and Scumer.
You whine that I'm being mean, but the truth is, you''re just a brat, either that, or a leftist troll trying their damnedest to piss on everyone's joy.
For this reason, you make yourself a target of this forum. And no, I will not relent when you post bull shit!
Quote from: Solar on September 10, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
You're like an incorrigible child. You whine that nothing is happening, I give you proof that it is, and now you claim it's just fast enough for you? MMove goal posts often Andy?
Did you not see where this has nothing to do with Trump not trying? The left is obstructing every way possible, be it, ambassadors or judges, they are doing their best to obstruct.
Trump may have appointed more than 100 judges, but unless they're approved, prosecutions will remain backlogged.
Your anger is ignorantly misdirected, none of this is Trump dragging his feet, the blame lies with McCon and Scumer.
You whine that I'm being mean, but the truth is, you''re just a brat, either that, or a leftist troll trying their damnedest to piss on everyone's joy.
For this reason, you make yourself a target of this forum. And no, I will not relent when you post bull shit!
lol, I'm a 58 year old brat.
I'm a proud USAF retiree who voted for Reagan, Bush, and Trump. Saluted Reagan's car while in uniform. Your anger about somebody disagreeing with you will change nothing about me.
Look I get it. You own the place, you will not brook me disagreeing with you. I see it on lots of sites, no biggie.
It's funny, the things you get mad about that I didn't say, that I just said the opposite of. I literally JUST wrote that Trump isn't omniscient, and somebody may be doing things without him knowing.
So you holler and yelp at me for saying it's Trumps fault. Calm down man, it's making you say stuff.
Quote from: AndyJackson on September 10, 2018, 03:24:08 PM
lol, I'm a 58 year old brat.
I'm a proud USAF retiree who voted for Reagan, Bush, and Trump. Saluted Reagan's car while in uniform. Your anger about somebody disagreeing with you will change nothing about me.
Look I get it. You own the place, you will not brook me disagreeing with you. I see it on lots of sites, no biggie.
It's funny, the things you get mad about that I didn't say, that I just said the opposite of. I literally JUST wrote that Trump isn't omniscient, and somebody may be doing things without him knowing.
So you holler and yelp at me for saying it's Trumps fault. Calm down man, it's making you say stuff.
So your response is to wrap yourself in the flag?
Give it up troll, you're the only one here peeing on the parade that is, Trump, killing off leftists worldwide.
If you can't take the heat, take a hike, this is not the forum for you, we all appreciate the work Trump is doing and the pace he'staking.
Two years and the left is on the run, but it's never good enough for you, anyway, that's how you want to portray it, as if somehow Trump is failing us.
Like I said, find another forum where others of your ilk will agree with you, but I guarantee you, only leftist sites will greet you with open arms.
Quote from: Solar on September 10, 2018, 04:22:16 PM
So your response is to wrap yourself in the flag?
Give it up troll, you're the only one here peeing on the parade that is, Trump, killing off leftists worldwide.
If you can't take the heat, take a hike, this is not the forum for you, we all appreciate the work Trump is doing and the pace he'staking.
Two years and the left is on the run, but it's never good enough for you, anyway, that's how you want to portray it, as if somehow Trump is failing us.
Like I said, find another forum where others of your ilk will agree with you, but I guarantee you, only leftist sites will greet you with open arms.
I actually don't know what to say to you at this point. When I show you that you said something wrong, you just blow out yet another blast of little insults and "get out of here !!!". Do you do this in real life ? Must be hell on wheels.
Hey, I only do the "flag" thing when somebody tries to convince everyone that I'm a communist atheist nihilist phlebotomist, for daring to disagree with them. Just one of those things.
Quote from: AndyJackson on September 10, 2018, 05:51:46 PM
I actually don't know what to say to you at this point. When I show you that you said something wrong, you just blow out yet another blast of little insults and "get out of here !!!". Do you do this in real life ? Must be hell on wheels.
Hey, I only do the "flag" thing when somebody tries to convince everyone that I'm a communist atheist nihilist phlebotomist, for daring to disagree with them. Just one of those things.
Like I said, just keep moving the goal post.
You're either a troll or a pessimist, neither of which are welcome. We're taking back the country and there's not one thing you can say to ruin our joy.