Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2020, 12:21:31 PM
I know what you mean, but the problem is, he was against the Bill in its entirety. I could see if he wanted a clean Bill, but he wanted nothing, and in times of war, a Nation can't afford not to spend to eliminate the enemy.
Oh, and Massie is not a Conservative, he's a LIBertarian, there still is a difference.

Thomas Massie backed the first Bill it's was when congress didn't want to show up for work for the American people. Like he stated congress wants the truck drives to drive, food serve to serve, mechanics to keep things running, medical field to keep working without protective measures, etc, etc....but when it's time for congress to show up for work they are scared shitless.

This is what a Constitutional politician looks and sounds like, and most importantly acts like.

Watch his brutal and truthful response while he wraps himself around the Constitution of the United States of America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVDeNWOYd8

Quote from: Bronx on March 28, 2020, 08:01:18 AM
Thomas Massie backed the first Bill it's was when congress didn't want to show up for work for the American people. Like he stated congress wants the truck drives to drive, food serve to serve, mechanics to keep things running, medical field to keep working without protective measures, etc, etc....but when it's time for congress to show up for work they are scared shitless.

This is what a Constitutional politician looks and sounds like, and most importantly acts like.

Watch his brutal and truthful response while he wraps himself around the Constitution of the United States of America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVDeNWOYd8

That was complete and utter bull shit and he knows it!!! We're supposed to be distancing ourselves, and he wanted Congress to go against commonsense and all fly back to be potentially exposed? Not to mention those they might expose in the process.

Sorry Bronx, but there comes a time when one has to set aside their differences and do what's needed to protect the US as a whole. This was one of those times, we're at war with an invisible enemy!

So the Dims think they got away with their BS leftist BS in this Bill? Let them think that, the country knows better. And as I pointed out earlier, Trump declared a National emergency, so don't think for a second he'll allocate money approved for leftist causes to be wasted, he'll spend it as needed.

Massie is a grandstanding fool!

Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2020, 09:04:02 AM
That was complete and utter bull shit and he knows it!!! We're supposed to be distancing ourselves, and he wanted Congress to go against commonsense and all fly back to be potentially exposed? Not to mention those they might expose in the process.

Sorry Bronx, but there comes a time when one has to set aside their differences and do what's needed to protect the US as a whole. This was one of those times, we're at war with an invisible enemy!

So the Dims think they got away with their BS leftist BS in this Bill? Let them think that, the country knows better. And as I pointed out earlier, Trump declared a National emergency, so don't think for a second he'll allocate money approved for leftist causes to be wasted, he'll spend it as needed.

Massie is a grandstanding fool!

I disagree. Massie is 100% right. There are two types of workers in this invisible war....essential workers and non-essential workers. The question is, is congress essential or non-essential workers....? If they are essential then they need to have their fat asses in Washington, DC fighting this invisible war. If not then they need to stay home with their mouths shut...period and let the leaders lead.

As far as President Trump is concern, Massie called Trump before the vote and tried to explain Article 1, Section 5 of the United States Constitution and Trump just couldn't understand this part of the constitution. IMO President Trump thinks the Bill of Rights is the whole constitution....What a damn shame....now President Trump won't even take his call.

After this is all said and done I will laugh at the people screaming aimlessly into the sky...."they are trembling all over my 2nd Amendment rights" ;meanwhile, pissing and shitting on Article 1, Section 5 of the United States Constitution.

You know where I stand on this and that is with the United States Constitution and Thomas Massie. You can have the last word is you like. Peace....!

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec5.html

Quote from: Bronx on March 28, 2020, 12:15:01 PM
I disagree. Massie is 100% right. There are two types of workers in this invisible war....essential workers and non-essential workers. The question is, is congress essential or non-essential workers....? If they are essential then they need to have their fat asses in Washington, DC fighting this invisible war. If not then they need to stay home with their mouths shut...period and let the leaders lead.

As far as President Trump is concern, Massie called Trump before the vote and tried to explain Article 1, Section 5 of the United States Constitution and Trump just couldn't understand this part of the constitution. IMO President Trump thinks the Bill of Rights is the whole constitution....What a damn shame....now President Trump won't even take his call.

After this is all said and done I will laugh at the people screaming aimlessly into the sky...."they are trembling all over my 2nd Amendment rights" ;meanwhile, pissing and shitting on Article 1, Section 5 of the United States Constitution.

You know where I stand on this and that is with the United States Constitution and Thomas Massie. You can have the last word is you like. Peace....!

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec5.html

Did you even read what I wrote? Massie is correct, but you and he both fail to grasp what's at stake here. Trump called a National Emergency for a reason, that, being our economy was about to tank beyond repair, and would have cost far more than a couple of trillion to repair and possibly decades before we recovered. In the interim, China and Russia would game the system and become world leaders over the US, something we simply can't afford.

Your link means absolutely nothing if you think about it. Massie was stalling the inevitable, when in fact we needed to act immediately.
Read this, in essence it gives Trump power over the purse, so whatever shit the dims pulled, matters not, he doesn't have to give the money to the Kennedy Center, he can spend it as he deems necessary.


A national emergency is any extraordinary situation declared by the president as threatening American citizens and not resolvable by other laws.
Under the National Emergencies Act of 1976, a declaration of national emergency temporarily grants the president at least 140 special powers.
The reasons for declaring a national emergency and the provisions to be applied during that emergency are solely and entirely up to the president.

Case in point as to how Trump can re-purpose any and all funds.

81 GPO, "Declaring a National Emergency Concerning the Southern Border of the United States," Proclamation 9844,
84 Federal Register 4949, February 15, 2019.
82 10 U.S.C. §2808(a). A fact sheet posted on the White House website and dated February 15, 2019, indicated that "up
to $8.1 billion ... will be available to build the border wall once a national emergency is declared and additional funds
have been reprogrammed, including: ... Up to $3.6 billion reallocated from Department of Defense military
construction projects under the President's declaration of a national emergency

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/98-505.pdf

Quote from: Killer Clouds on March 27, 2020, 10:13:14 AM
It should be stopped until the garbage is taken out of it.

Agree the guy was on to something. The Package gives more back to the GOVT projects than is going to the people??

Quote from: nzone on March 30, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
Agree the guy was on to something. The Package gives more back to the GOVT projects than is going to the people??

The House of Reps getting a pay raise should have been the first thing taken out. Then anything else that wasn't related to the wuhan flu should have been taken out. Then when the demonrats wouldn't pass it it could be plastered all over the media 24/7 what was happening. Maybe all of congress can get the wuhan flu. They deserve it more than anyone. And Trump is an asshole for signing it too.

Quote from: Killer Clouds on March 30, 2020, 09:21:55 AM
The House of Reps getting a pay raise should have been the first thing taken out. Then anything else that wasn't related to the wuhan flu should have been taken out. Then when the demonrats wouldn't pass it it could be plastered all over the media 24/7 what was happening. Maybe all of congress can get the wuhan flu. They deserve it more than anyone. And Trump is an asshole for signing it too.

Good Points!