Author Topic: Trump Kills Iran Deal  (Read 1918 times)

Offline AndyJackson

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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2018, 01:32:30 PM »
Changing a quote is forbidden! Are you looking to get booted?
He's looking to get some adult attention on the interwebz.  Not much else.

He will be back at DU chirping "hahahaha you shoulda seen me making them mad on this one site".

Small things give small people small thrills.

Gives us a few minutes of laughs too, as we spoof and goof him.  Win-Win.

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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2018, 01:43:50 PM »
He's looking to get some adult attention on the interwebz.  Not much else.

He will be back at DU chirping "hahahaha you shoulda seen me making them mad on this one site".

Small things give small people small thrills.

Gives us a few minutes of laughs too, as we spoof and goof him.  Win-Win.
I don't mind mental midgets coming in to post, but rattling off opinion minus the actual facts is unacceptable, though getting called on it is not something these kids are used to.
Whenever I hit a lib site, I do my best to stick to the facts, not try and anger anyone, and definitely try and have a good debate, but this kid is just trolling and needed a timeout to think about his approach.

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If he continues to act like a kid, boot his ass.
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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2018, 02:18:26 PM »
I don't mind mental midgets coming in to post, but rattling off opinion minus the actual facts is unacceptable, though getting called on it is not something these kids are used to.
Whenever I hit a lib site, I do my best to stick to the facts, not try and anger anyone, and definitely try and have a good debate, but this kid is just trolling and needed a timeout to think about his approach.

Note to Walks:

If he continues to act like a kid, boot his ass.

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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2018, 04:32:27 PM »
It's been a while since someone wandered over from the LNF.


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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2018, 04:43:07 PM »
It's been a while since someone wandered over from the LNF.
My bad, I had made an appointment to have the CPF septic sucked out, and the driver asked if I would take the lid off so he could get started right away.
Well, he was late and there was that damn septic wide open and a single turd snuck out and the rest is history.
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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2018, 04:54:55 PM »
My bad, I had made an appointment to have the CPF septic sucked out, and the driver asked if I would take the lid off so he could get started right away.
Well, he was late and there was that damn septic wide open and a single turd snuck out and the rest is history.
Sometimes the smallest turds have the worst smell. I think Churchill said that.


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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2018, 06:58:49 PM »
What is bullshit about anything I said?  Unilateral sanctions against Iran aren't going to do anything.  All you're doing by violating the deal is giving Iran an allowance to pursue a nuclear weapon -which they said yesterday they would do "in earnest"- and you're sending the message to every other rogue nation around the world that the word of the United States doesn't mean shit; we don't honor the agreements we sign.  Which is par for the course with Trump...do you personally also renege on agreements you make?

You got it wrong FIRST OF ALL It wasn't "America" or "Trump" that didn't honor the "agreement" IT WAS THE IRANIANS, That was just PROVEN by the literally TON of documents uncovered by Israeli operatives. Once Trump had the PROOF then he withdrew once he saw the "agreement" was Violated.

Second it isn't AMERICA's agreement or "deal", It is your Boy Hussein's, it is NOT a TREATY ratified by Congress LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, it was Hussein with his pen and his phone. Trump has a pen and a phone just like it. AND as I recall (it was discussed on this board at the time)  Cryin' Chuckie Schumer WAS AGAINST IT, so were a lot of others Dems who said it should have gone the correct route thru Capitol Hill and be a REAL TREATY.

Last, if the other signature Countries Stay in this agreement WHICH IRAN HAS PROVED TO HAVE VIOLATED, what does that say about their word? Watch and see how quick they chicken out.

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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2018, 08:17:00 PM »
Iran doesn't fear us or our unilateral sanctions.  Obama and Clinton got global sanctions on Iran; Trump hasn't built any kind of coalition that can impose sanctions strong enough to cripple Iran's economy.  He needs the rest of the world to go along with it.  Why?  Because Iran can simply just do deals with the other signatories to the agreement. 

The decision to violate the Iran Nuclear Agreement is stupid, impotent, and will be ineffective.
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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2018, 04:46:41 AM »
You said you agreed with that other poster's assessment that "a wiser Trump" would be able to magically do what no one else has been able to accomplish.

Your evasive answer resembles a loon I had to deal with on another forum.
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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2018, 07:10:35 AM »
I don't mind mental midgets coming in to post, but rattling off opinion minus the actual facts is unacceptable

None of you have posted a single fact this entire thread.  Whereas, I have posted facts like how unilateral sanctions don't work, and how us violating the agreement we signed isn't going to magically make Iran come back to the table.  No other country in the world is violating the agreement, so what leverage do we have?  None.  Like Trump, you're terrible negotiators who just react to things without thinking them through.


, though getting called on it is not something these kids are used to.

You haven't called me out on anything.  In fact, all you did was cry that I demolished your unsupported and lazy opinion with reality.  You whined about me misquoting you, which I didn't do, and then ran immediately to your safe space to try and ban me from the forum just so you can feel better about yourself.  What a baby.


Whenever I hit a lib site, I do my best to stick to the facts, not try and anger anyone, and definitely try and have a good debate, but this kid is just trolling and needed a timeout to think about his approach.

I don't believe you would ever go to a "lib site" because you're so fragile in your safe space here, that you literally have to block posts because they upset your delicate sensibilities.  Such a snowflake.
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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2018, 07:21:51 AM »
You got it wrong FIRST OF ALL It wasn't "America" or "Drumpf" that didn't honor the "agreement" IT WAS THE IRANIANS, That was just PROVEN by the literally TON of documents uncovred by Israeli operatives. Once Drumpf had the PROOF then he withdrew once he saw the "agreement" was Violated.

Wrong. 

What Israel "revealed" was intelligence that pre-dated the Iran nuclear agreement.  The IAEA confirms Iran in compliance with the deal.  Secondly, if Iran violated the deal, the other 189 parties to the agreement would have pulled out too.  But they didn't.  Why?  Because Iran didn't violate the deal.  Israel pretended that old intelligence, from the Bush the Dumber days, was recent intelligence.  Kinda like how you all used Clinton-era intelligence to manipulate the US into a war two years after Clinton left office and 5 years after that intelligence assessment from 1998.


Second it isn't AMERICA's agreement or "deal", It is your Boy Hussein's, it is NOT a TREATY ratified by Congress LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, it was Hussein with his pen and his phone. Drumpf has a pen and a phone just like it. AND as I recall (it was discussed on this board at the time)  Cryin' Chuckie Schumer WAS AGAINST IT, so were a lot of others Dems who said it should have gone the correct route thru Capitol Hill and be a REAL TREATY.

No.  Wrong again.  The Iran Nuclear Review Act passed Congress in early 2015, and then a disapproval resolution failed in the Fall of 2015, which means the Iran Deal was approved. 

And who cares if Schumer was opposed to it?  It doesn't matter.


Last, if the other signature Countries Stay in this agreement WHICH IRAN HAS PROVED TO HAVE VIOLATED, what does that say about their word? Watch and see how quick they chicken out.

First of all, no, Iran hasn't violated the agreement.  Not according to the UN or the IAEA or any of our European allies.  What you think is a violation is Israel cherry-picking old intelligence.  Which is exactly what Bush the Dumber and the Conservatives did with Iraq 15 years ago.  And just like 15 years ago, you fell for it because you're gullible.  And also just like 15 years ago, you won't bother to serve in this war either. 
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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2018, 07:32:27 AM »
Derp -

You do realize that when you stumble into somebody else's house and immediately shit your pants, it won't go smoothly..... don't you ?

All you've done here is run your mouth like a little bitch since word one.  What could go wrong with that, eh ?

And your sig line is a dead give-away for a little shit with delusions of importance.  You will likely never have any importance, in any context, with your snarky little pantsload approach to life.

Enjoy your antics for as long as the folks enjoy making a fool of you.

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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2018, 07:39:43 AM »
Wrong. 

What Israel "revealed" was intelligence that pre-dated the Iran nuclear agreement.  The IAEA confirms Iran in compliance with the deal.  Secondly, if Iran violated the deal, the other 189 parties to the agreement would have pulled out too.  But they didn't.  Why?  Because Iran didn't violate the deal.  Israel pretended that old intelligence, from the Bush the Dumber days, was recent intelligence.  Kinda like how you all used Clinton-era intelligence to manipulate the US into a war two years after Clinton left office and 5 years after that intelligence assessment from 1998.
Israel revealed that the IAEA report was, itself, falsified data. Previous intelligence was used for a comparison.

No.  Wrong again.  The Iran Nuclear Review Act passed Congress in early 2015, and then a disapproval resolution failed in the Fall of 2015, which means the Iran Deal was approved. 
A bill passed by congress using standard majority vote is a far cry from attaining a direct 2/3 vote from the senate that is required to ratify a treaty. The Iran Nuclear Review Act was nothing less than a typical end-run around the Constitution typical of the Obama administration and the demoncrap party as a whole.

And who cares if Schumer was opposed to it?  It doesn't matter.
The point is the pure hypocrisy that rules the demoncrap agenda these days. Schumer is complaining that Trump ended an agreement that Schumer was against when Obama (illegally) committed the United States to following.


First of all, no, Iran hasn't violated the agreement.  Not according to the UN or the IAEA or any of our European allies.  What you think is a violation is Israel cherry-picking old intelligence.  Which is exactly what Bush the Dumber and the Conservatives did with Iraq 15 years ago.  And just like 15 years ago, you fell for it because you're gullible.  And also just like 15 years ago, you won't bother to serve in this war either.
Appreciate how you spread the liberal lies without any type of critical thinking. Is there a thought that does NOT come straight out of the DNC handbook for progressive debate?

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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2018, 08:08:08 AM »
Israel revealed that the IAEA report was, itself, falsified data. Previous intelligence was used for a comparison.
A bill passed by congress using standard majority vote is a far cry from attaining a direct 2/3 vote from the senate that is required to ratify a treaty. The Iran Nuclear Review Act was nothing less than a typical end-run around the Constitution typical of the Obama administration and the demoncrap party as a whole.
The point is the pure hypocrisy that rules the demoncrap agenda these days. Schumer is complaining that Trump ended an agreement that Schumer was against when Obama (illegally) committed the United States to following.

Appreciate how you spread the liberal lies without any type of critical thinking. Is there a thought that does NOT come straight out of the DNC handbook for progressive debate?



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Re: Trump Kills Iran Deal
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2018, 08:56:37 AM »
Here's a List of Major U.S. Allies Celebrating an End to the Iran Nuclear Deal.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/05/10/here-are-the-us-allies-celebrating-an-end-to-the-iran-nuclear-deal-n2479369


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To say America has abandoned, ignored or upset all of its allies with the Iran decision is completely devoid of fact.
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