Trump backs permanent snooping powers he once criticized as abusive
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/7/trump-backs-permanent-snooping-powers-intelligence/
Quote from: voter on August 16, 2017, 07:43:26 PM
Trump backs permanent snooping powers he once criticized as abusive
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/7/trump-backs-permanent-snooping-powers-intelligence/
So it's not the power but the person wielding the power.
You know the US has become insane today when:
The answer to endless wars is more wars.
The answer to the police state is more tyranny.
The answer to a dead economy is starting a trade war.
The answer to regulations is more laws.
The answer to endless debt is more debt.
Quote from: voter on August 16, 2017, 08:16:18 PM
You know the US has become insane today when:
The answer to endless wars is more wars.
The answer to the police state is more tyranny.
The answer to a dead economy is starting a trade war.
The answer to regulations is more laws.
The answer to endless debt is more debt.
That's why we are all moving to Belize.
Quote from: voter on August 16, 2017, 08:16:18 PM
You know the US has become insane today when:
The answer to endless wars is more wars.
The answer to the police state is more tyranny.
The answer to a dead economy is starting a trade war.
The answer to regulations is more laws.
The answer to endless debt is more debt.
None of us supported Trump, but you do realize Trump has only been in office a short time, and the gop'E has yet to send him any meaningful Legislation.
So your issue is really with leftist rhetoric painting Trump as this all powerful entity with the ability to personally rewrite laws?
Good advice deserves repeating.
Quote from: voter on August 16, 2017, 08:29:56 PM
Good advice deserves repeating.
We didn't support him, but we'll do our damnedest to see he does the Right thing.
See my open letter to Trump.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/open-letter-to-president-trump-from-conservatives/
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 16, 2017, 08:18:13 PM
That's why we are all moving to Belize.
My cat said she will not move unless we get a beachfront house. :woot:
Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them.
Quote from: voter on August 16, 2017, 08:29:56 PM
Good advice deserves repeating.
Oh, and to the OP, yeah, I hate the fact we even have a Homeland Security and NSA spying on us, but keep voting out the Marxist GOP scum like McStain and we might just get rid of the behemoth.
Welcome to the forum.
Quote from: voter on August 16, 2017, 08:38:56 PM
Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them.
Your a day late and a dollar short.
Edmund Burke (1729-1797) said "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.". George Santayana (1863-1952) said "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.". The full quote from The Life of Reason (1905-1906) by George Santayana is as follows:
Who said Those who do not learn from the past are doomed ...
Oh, by the way, the FISA Section 702 Snooping Act?
It is set to expire on Dec. 31 and Congress has yet to send Trump a working Bill.
Quote from: walkstall on August 16, 2017, 08:36:44 PM
My cat said she will not move unless we get a beachfront house. :woot:
My cat said the same thing.
Quote from: Solar on August 16, 2017, 08:48:39 PM
Oh, by the way, the FISA Section 702 Snooping Act?
It is set to expire on Dec. 31 and Congress has yet to send Trump a working Bill.
Congress still does bills? I thought they passed a bill stating they no longer have to write or pass bills because it's really exhausting and cuts into their fundraising and TV time.
Quote from: voter on August 16, 2017, 08:38:56 PM
Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them.
Like when people voted twice for Obamao?
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 16, 2017, 09:32:51 PM
Congress still does bills? I thought they passed a bill stating they no longer have to write or pass bills because it's really exhausting and cuts into their fundraising and TV time.
Well to be fair, after the Marxist neutered the gop'E, (they did willingly) they've been without a set of balls for so long, they thought Trump was able to write Legislation.
Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it.
Quote from: voter on August 16, 2017, 08:16:18 PM
You know the US has become insane today when:
The answer to endless wars is more wars.
The answer to the police state is more tyranny.
The answer to a dead economy is starting a trade war.
The answer to regulations is more laws.
The answer to endless debt is more debt.
Let's see here:
President Trump is ending trade wars that disadvantaged America, he reversed some of Bammy's executive orders on regulations, he is continuing to reverse the damage done by Bammy regarding our law enforcement, and in the short time President Trump has been in office our GDP has come close to Trump's 3% target. The unemployment rate hit a 10-year low of 4.4% in April. According to the National Association of Realtors, the median price for an existing home was $236,400 -- up 4% from the start of the year. The stock market has risen significantly since Trump took office; a barometer of faith in the American economy.
By the way, welcome to Conservative Political Forum.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/27/trump-signs-four-bills-roll-back-obama-era-regulations/99690456/
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-gdp-economy-20170728-story.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/01/atlanta-feds-gdpnow-sees-the-trump-economy-growing-4-3-percent-this-quarter.html
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 05:08:14 AM
Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it.
Had you been following the elections since 2010, you'd have noticed the people have been booting leftists across the country.
No, the pursuit of Liberty is not dead in the least, it's the very reason the Dim party is dead and why the gop'E is in serious trouble and scared shitless of the coming 2108 midterm elections.
We only need a few seats to steal the House..
Those freeloaders aren't constituency of the gop'E, so they have no influence, the real culprit is the money backers that want Marxist Medicine, that's who the RNC works for, not the voter, not you or I. This is why we need more than ever to purge the gop'E of Marxists like McStain and Lyndsy Graham, McCONnel etc.
These scum leftist traitors care nothing for the country, nor do they care about the voter, left or right, they care only about their bottom line and the here and now with DC partying.
Remember the argument over taxing medical devices? This was where the RNC/gop'E came into play, exposing how this was always about money and had nothing to do with actually caring for people.
Read, you'll see it Commiecare was never about helping people, it was all about control by govt and money was the main motivator for the Pols that backed it as we're seeing once again by a small margin in the House, driven by McCON.
Those freeloaders aren't constituency of the gop'E, so they have no influence, the real culprit is the money backers that want Marxist Medicine, that's who the RNC works for, not the voter, not you or I. This is why we need more than ever to purge the gop'E of Marxists like McStain and Lyndsy Graham, McCONnel etc.
These scum leftist traitors care nothing for the country, nor do they care about the voter, left or right, they care only about their bottom line and the here and now with DC partying.
Remember the argument over taxing medical devices? This was where the RNC/gop'E came into play, exposing how this was always about money and had nothing to do with actually caring for people.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/66717-obamacare-endorsements-what-the-bribe-was
Here's a perfect example of how many in the gop'E are willing and why they'll back Marxistcare.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/revealed-two-gop-congressmen-who-backed-obamacare-repeal-invested-in-health-care-companies-during-debate/
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 05:08:14 AM
Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it.
You seem to have a collection of 'talking points' ... just sayin'.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/24/investing/canada-lumber-tariff-trump/index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signals-willingness-raise-u-minimum-wage-222204133--business.html
http://www.benningtonbanner.com/stories/sessions-restore-federal-asset-seizures,513975
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-tax-plan-could-060012696.html
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 05:41:51 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/24/investing/canada-lumber-tariff-trump/index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signals-willingness-raise-u-minimum-wage-222204133--business.html
http://www.benningtonbanner.com/stories/sessions-restore-federal-asset-seizures,513975
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-tax-plan-could-060012696.html
You do realize not one of these has come to fruition, right?
We get it, you don't like Trump, but how about we focus on today and put pressure where it belongs, on actual issues he seems to be pushing.
One thing I've noticed about Trump, take everything he says with a grain of salt, it's all rhetoric and bull shit, it's his actions that speak volumes, and when he starts backing leftist shit, that's when we nail the guy, but posting old articles is simply a waste of time, because that was yesterdays rhetoric and without proof he acted on any of it? You've got nothing but old BS distraction articles.
Don't believe everything you read, left or right, it all comes with a serious bias.
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 05:41:51 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/24/investing/canada-lumber-tariff-trump/index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signals-willingness-raise-u-minimum-wage-222204133--business.html
http://www.benningtonbanner.com/stories/sessions-restore-federal-asset-seizures,513975
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-tax-plan-could-060012696.html
Sorry, not a fan of Yahoo; I have found them to be fairly inaccurate in their reporting; I briefly scanned the articles you provided, and they seem to be opinions of projections that could (could being the key word) happen.
Please don't get me wrong here, I am glad that you provided links to back up what you are stating, but the MSM tends to be very skewed; especially when it comes to this President.
No, I am not a Trump supporter; quite the opposite. But I do feel he needs to be given credit when credit is due and it is to me blatantly obvious that the RINOs, DEMS and the MSM are out to derail his presidency. So much so that I find it disturbing that they are trying to circumvent the voice and vote of the people. Yes, I'll be the first to admit Trump is not so savvy when it comes to the functionality of government or the Constitution (he's quickly learning), but as far as business and patriotism and getting this country back in line ... I place my bets on Trump.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 05:58:17 AM
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Where's there's an open mind, is an empty head.
voter, I think it's time you start replying to others attempting to engage you in conversation. This isn't a place for you to dump whatever brilliance pops into your head that we already know.
Let me know if this is asking too much.
Quote from: taxed on August 17, 2017, 11:03:34 AM
voter, I think it's time you start replying to others attempting to engage you in conversation. This isn't a place for you to dump whatever brilliance pops into your head that we already know.
Let me know if this is asking too much.
..speaking of "brilliance", I promised Wifey I'd put a brighter bulb above the washer.... MEH, actually got something useful from the thread, imagine that!
I didn't think as forum could be "spammed" until now.
Quote from: Hoofer on August 17, 2017, 11:07:57 AM
..speaking of "brilliance", I promised Wifey I'd put a brighter bulb above the washer.... MEH, actually got something useful from the thread, imagine that!
I didn't think as forum could be "spammed" until now.
I'm hoping he decides to actually think and discuss instead of parroting.
A floating loon hoping to disrupt the forum.
Quote from: taxed on August 17, 2017, 11:13:06 AM
I'm hoping he decides to actually think and discuss instead of parroting.
I think he's kind of young.
Every class is unfit to govern.
Quote from: Solar on August 17, 2017, 05:09:58 PM
Define "Class".
Oh shit! he is going to have to think for himself.
The plans differ, the planners are all alike.
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 06:28:38 PM
The plans differ, the planners are all alike.
When someone challenges you, it is incumbent upon you to respond, that's simple etiquette!
Now, Define "Class"!
Quote from: Solar on August 17, 2017, 07:27:40 PM
When someone challenges you, it is incumbent upon you to respond, that's simple etiquette!
Now, Define "Class"!
Voter, this is your last chance to respond, otherwise, you're in time out!
Walks, it's in your court.
Quote from: Solar on August 17, 2017, 07:56:05 PM
Voter, this is your last chance to respond, otherwise, you're in time out!
Walks, it's in your court.
I was out, but I see you have dealt with it.
Quote from: walkstall on August 17, 2017, 09:28:39 PM
I was out, but I see you have dealt with it.
Yeah, it was as if I had been dealing with a broken AI that could only post quotes.
As if a McDonald's kiosk gained autonomy. :lol:
Quote from: Solar on August 18, 2017, 07:05:50 AM
Yeah, it was as if I had been dealing with a broken AI that could only post quotes.
As if a McDonald's kiosk gained autonomy. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's the problem with hooking those things up to the internet...
Quote from: taxed on August 19, 2017, 06:59:59 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's the problem with hooking those things up to the internet...
Heaven forbid they ever gain autonomy. But then, at least we'll have someone that can not only carry on an intelligent conservation, but get me a quarter pounder and fries at the same time, and not even screw up my order.