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Title: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2018, 07:09:09 PM
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Trump says ordered precision strikes against Syria chemical weapons capabilities https://reut.rs/2IPPZjW

Video at link below.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1vOxwANPEPMGB
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 13, 2018, 08:15:48 PM
I'm mixed on all of this. First off I want us out of the middle east. "Experts" have been designing strategies for decades and all we have accomplished is to turn the area into Detroit with camels. There is no end game. Is this constitutional? I think the president can do this up to a point and then has to get congressional approval. I may be wrong.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2018, 08:20:13 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 13, 2018, 08:15:48 PM
I'm mixed on all of this. First off I want us out of the middle east. "Experts" have been designing strategies for decades and all we have accomplished is to turn the area into Detroit with camels. There is no end game. Is this constitutional? I think the president can do this up to a point and then has to get congressional approval. I may be wrong.
I know what you mean...
I believe there is more to this than meets the eye. This was also a message for Putin, "Don't Fuck With Us!"
Putin is the guy pulling Syrian, and Iranian strings, I have faith that Mattis knows quite well what they're doing, so I'll hold off to see how this plays out.

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Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 13, 2018, 08:27:45 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2018, 08:20:13 PM
I know what you mean...
I believe there is more to this than meets the eye. This was also a message for Putin, "Don't Fuck With Us!"
Putin is the guy pulling Syrian, and Iranian strings, I have faith that Mattis knows quite well what they're doing, so I'll hold off to see how this plays out.

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Sparrow Red.
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That's the other bit. I think Putin has not been able to suss out how to handle Trump. The democrats and the media have not helped by branding Trump a Putin sycophant. Putin has been expanding his influence and Trump has to a point allowed that to happen. Is that because Trump is afraid of Putin or because he is not an interventionist?
This strike should send a message to Putin that the days of Obama and leading from behind are over.  I'm hoping Putin will take the role of the US in the middle east. Let Russia drain it's own resources.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 14, 2018, 05:02:03 AM
I don't like it......BUT....I see little choice. Trump was handed a bad situation that was bound to get worse. The bad guy here is once again IRAN....that 150 Billion Hussein gave Iran went right into Putin's Pocket in the form of weapons. Not to hard to imagine some of them found their way into Syria and will end up being aimed at Israel.

The only good part about this is no doubt a few Iranian "advisors" went up in smoke in this strike.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2018, 07:31:56 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 13, 2018, 08:27:45 PM
That's the other bit. I think Putin has not been able to suss out how to handle Trump. The democrats and the media have not helped by branding Trump a Putin sycophant. Putin has been expanding his influence and Trump has to a point allowed that to happen. Is that because Trump is afraid of Putin or because he is not an interventionist?
This strike should send a message to Putin that the days of Obama and leading from behind are over.  I'm hoping Putin will take the role of the US in the middle east. Let Russia drain it's own resources.
I think that's pretty damn close, I'll expand.
I believe Trump sees the big picture, where he can actually achieve peace in the M/E piece. at least contain it as opposed to previous administrations setting fires as a way of containing it.
I think Putin thinks the old rules apply and expected different results when he played Assad, he never expected Trump to follow through on his threats, he did warn him it could be very very soon, or not soon at all, so get your shit together and GTFO.
Q even mentioned, "Intel good", meaning that Syria was evacuating suspected bases before they were hit.

Following it as close as I do, I'm basing it on what little we all have available, but Trump swatted a Putin pest away from the picnic, it really does appear that way after watching how Trump has allied Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Israel, this was an amazing feat, and all in his first year.
Putin sees his stranglehold disappearing, he had hoped to get Trump to play by the old rules, like the previous Marxist drawing a line in the sand and nothing would change.
Putin would still have Iran and Syria as part of his OPEC to keep his Ruble alive, and Trump came along and completely screwed up decades of planning in one year.

I'll wait to hold off judgment, Trump has proven to be a negotiating genius. Unless a new player enters the game, Trump will go down as the master manipulator who brought peace to the M/E and the world.
I know this may sound like a stretch, but by God, he has the left in a panic because he is ruining any chances of a Marxist takeover on a global scale.

This isn't optimism talking, this is just putting the puzzle pieces together.

Perspective from a trump tweet, this explains a longterm key to world peace. Someone has to hold all the cards, and better us than China.


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Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Rotwang on April 14, 2018, 08:11:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2018, 07:09:09 PM
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Reuters Top News

@Reuters
Trump says ordered precision strikes against Syria chemical weapons capabilities https://reut.rs/2IPPZjW

Video at link below.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1vOxwANPEPMGB

Well, now that the facts (mebe) are out, I'm cool with the Syria Strike.

France and the UK helped.

Assad himself, his Command & Control, his Army, his Airfields were NOT targeted.

What were targeted were numerous Chemical Weapon Laboratories and Storage Facilities.

You know, the ones Barry Soetoro and John Kerry assured us did not exist - that were destroyed years ago as a result of the Obama Administration's diplomatic skills.

I will guess that many of these were formerly part of Saddam's known arsenal.

Well Done Mr President !
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Rotwang on April 14, 2018, 08:16:29 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2018, 07:09:09 PM
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Reuters Top News

@Reuters
Trump says ordered precision strikes against Syria chemical weapons capabilities https://reut.rs/2IPPZjW

Video at link below.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1vOxwANPEPMGB

Another huge WIN here is that our Intelligence (apparently) was able to pinpoint Chemical Laboratories and Storage accurately.

This will send a message to Iran and NK that their facilities are known to us as well.

Oh, but NK and Iran have huge Underground Arsenals !

Bomb the doors and those make fine TOMBS.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2018, 08:37:42 AM
Quote from: Rotwang on April 14, 2018, 08:16:29 AM
Another huge WIN here is that our Intelligence (apparently) was able to pinpoint Chemical Laboratories and Storage accurately.

This will send a message to Iran and NK that their facilities are known to us as well.

Oh, but NK and Iran have huge Underground Arsenals !

Bomb the doors and those make fine TOMBS.
Iran and NK are mere puppets in the game. The message sent, was to China and Putin.
Yeah, I agree, it looks like a solid win for Trump in spite of the leftist media spin.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: wally on April 14, 2018, 08:46:12 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 13, 2018, 08:15:48 PM
I'm mixed on all of this. First off I want us out of the middle east. "Experts" have been designing strategies for decades and all we have accomplished is to turn the area into Detroit with camels. There is no end game. Is this constitutional? I think the president can do this up to a point and then has to get congressional approval. I may be wrong.
Putin has a third world economy and even though he has nukes and some very sophisticated weapons, he knows that Russia is no match for either the economic or military mussel of the United States.  This clever former KGB Colonel wishes to restore the former empire of the former Soviet Union.  If he is able to normalize the use of internationally banned CBW agents, he gains an advantage in terms of asymmetrical conventional threat (just like Russia's puppets of Iran and N. Korea).

As much as we would rather just not play Putin and China's game, we're the only Superpower and that makes us a Player, whether we like it or not.  Obama tried to take us out of this new Cold War conflict by intentionally reducing our standing as the world's only Superpower.  This is short sighted and stupid!  There will always be ambitious ("evil") people who will take advantage of any perception of weakness.  (the same as there will always be playground bullies!)
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2018, 08:57:59 AM
Quote from: wally on April 14, 2018, 08:46:12 AM
Putin has a third world economy and even though he has nukes and some very sophisticated weapons, he knows that Russia is no match for either the economic or military mussel of the United States.  This clever former KGB Colonel wishes to restore the former empire of the former Soviet Union.  If he is able to normalize the use of internationally banned CBW agents, he gains an advantage in terms of asymmetrical conventional threat (just like Russia's puppets of Iran and N. Korea).

As much as we would rather just not play Putin and China's game, we're the only Superpower and that makes us a Player, whether we like it or not.  Obama tried to take us out of this new Cold War conflict by intentionally reducing our standing as the world's only Superpower.  This is short sighted and stupid!  There will always be ambitious ("evil") people who will take advantage of any perception of weakness.  (the same as there will always be playground bullies!)
Obozo didn't destroy our Military out of stupidity, he did it to destroy the only anchor for capitalism in the world.
But you are correct about everything else.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Walter Josh on April 14, 2018, 10:24:38 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on April 13, 2018, 08:15:48 PM
I'm mixed on all of this. First off I want us out of the middle east. "Experts" have been designing strategies for decades and all we have accomplished is to turn the area into Detroit with camels. There is no end game. Is this constitutional? I think the president can do this up to a point and then has to get congressional approval. I may be wrong.
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Boo, on the mark.
Recall the ancient adage that tells us "the Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend!"
Despite his warts, Saddam Hussein was the mortal enemy of the Ayatollahs
of Iran, having engaged them is a decade long war, the former virtually won.
Then Bush the Buffoon became our bus driver; remaining oblivious to anything
resembling a powerful idea.
Perhaps Trump, w/the guidance of Bolton and Pompeo, can thread the Mid-East
needle, allowing us to avoid this cauldron of religious/sectarian hatred.
Sadly, we are toddlers w/o experience in this part of the world.
Yet the French could be of great help having controlled the Levant
(Lebanon and Syria) for more than a century till 1930.
Lets see where this goes; our watchword being caution!


Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2018, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: Walter Josh on April 14, 2018, 10:24:38 AM
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Boo, on the mark.
Recall the ancient adage that tells us "the Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend!"
Despite his warts, Saddam Hussein was the mortal enemy of the Ayatollahs
of Iran, having engaged them is a decade long war, the former virtually won.
Then Bush the Buffoon became our bus driver; remaining oblivious to anything
resembling a powerful idea.
Perhaps Trump, w/the guidance of Bolton and Pompeo, can thread the Mid-East
needle, allowing us to avoid this cauldron of religious/sectarian hatred.
Sadly, we are toddlers w/o experience in this part of the world.
Yet the French could be of great help having controlled the Levant
(Lebanon and Syria) for more than a century till 1930.
Lets see where this goes; our watchword being caution!
That's the thing, Trump is 180 deg. from the former  Establishment hacks thinking they can conquer ideology with force, where Trump sees unification with allies in the M/E as the key to peace.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2018, 12:16:39 PM
Soooo, what happened to Putin's threat to retaliate and bomb our launch sites? :lol:

Moscow will shoot down any U.S. missiles fired at Syria and retaliate against American launch sites, the Russian ambassador to Lebanon has warned.

Ambassador Alexander Zasypkin made the comments on Tuesday while speaking on the Hezbollah-affiliated al-Manar TV channel, Reuters reported.

President Donald Trump is currently considering military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad following Saturday's suspected chemical attack on the rebel-held town of Douma near the capital city of Damascus. Medical relief groups say the attack killed dozens of civilians.

Russia is Assad's most powerful ally and has been supporting him in the Syrian civil war since September 2015.

http://www.newsweek.com/russia-will-bomb-us-missile-launch-sites-event-syria-attack-ambassador-warns-880456
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: ZimZamZim on April 14, 2018, 01:59:29 PM
Trump handled this situation like a true American leader should...Putin just got his backside handed to him.
I especially liked VP Mike Pence's statement on TV about our actions, and his view of Russia and their standing among the nations of the world.
He was 100% correct.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Possum on April 14, 2018, 02:54:26 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 14, 2018, 12:16:39 PM
Soooo, what happened to Putin's threat to retaliate and bomb our launch sites? :lol:

Putin went to the obama school of drawing red lines.




Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2018, 03:31:41 PM
Quote from: s3779m on April 14, 2018, 02:54:26 PM
Putin went to the obama school of drawing red lines.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Obozo acquired the nickname, "Sandy" after his threat to draw a line in the sand. :lol:
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2018, 03:35:39 PM
Quote from: s3779m on April 14, 2018, 02:54:26 PM
Putin went to the obama school of drawing red lines.
Trump just tweeted via Niki. :thumbsup:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DawY_8WVQAAEUAQ.jpg:large)

Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Rotwang on April 14, 2018, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 14, 2018, 03:35:39 PM
Trump just tweeted via Niki. :thumbsup:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DawY_8WVQAAEUAQ.jpg:large)

Well, until this morning I was very angry that President Trump was getting involved in Syria.

Each time the USA deposes a Secular Dictator, disaster follows. The Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi - one fail after another.

But then, this morning, it was revealed that Assad himself was not targeted. Nor were his airfields, or Army.

Only the Chemical Weapon facilities were destroyed, which, ironically,  John Kerry had promised us were gone, 100% !!

And Trump even managed to get the UK and France on board ! Quite an achievement for a leader the Media insists all our allies despise.

This measured mission proves to Iran, and yes, even North Korea, that our satellites know where their weapons are. And we have the means to destroy them.

As well as, with President Trump, the will.

Thus my anger turned to relief. I feel good right now.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: supsalemgr on April 15, 2018, 04:59:26 AM
It is not surprising, but still amazing how unglued the MSM is over this action. They are twisting themselves into knots over the "Mission Accomplished" statement. All sane people fully comprehend that mission of this event was accomplished. The left is tryimg to redefine the definition of the statement.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2018, 05:12:59 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 15, 2018, 04:59:26 AM
It is not surprising, but still amazing how unglued the MSM is over this action. They are twisting themselves into knots over the "Mission Accomplished" statement. All sane people fully comprehend that mission of this event was accomplished. The left is tryimg to redefine the definition of the statement.
It's almost humorous, because I'm seeing libs all over it as if it's the only talking point of value.
When pressed to explain why it's so bad, they eventually morph back to the Bush years, as if to somehow compare Trump to Bush.
I saw an entire thread devoted to libs going on about how embarrassing Trump must be to the right, that he's a RINO Warhawk in league with McStain on the verge of WWIII, their kids will never know what Freedom is, and on and on and on ad nauseam.

They have absolutely nothing, so they jumped when the LSM threw them a crumb.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2018, 05:23:39 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 15, 2018, 04:59:26 AM
It is not surprising, but still amazing how unglued the MSM is over this action. They are twisting themselves into knots over the "Mission Accomplished" statement. All sane people fully comprehend that mission of this event was accomplished. The left is tryimg to redefine the definition of the statement.

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The Syrian raid was so perfectly carried out, with such precision, that the only way the Fake News Media could demean was by my use of the term "Mission Accomplished." I knew they would seize on this but felt it is such a great Military term, it should be brought back. Use often!
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 15, 2018, 05:56:43 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 14, 2018, 12:16:39 PM
Soooo, what happened to Putin's threat to retaliate and bomb our launch sites? :lol:

Moscow will shoot down any U.S. missiles fired at Syria and retaliate against American launch sites, the Russian ambassador to Lebanon has warned.

Ambassador Alexander Zasypkin made the comments on Tuesday while speaking on the Hezbollah-affiliated al-Manar TV channel, Reuters reported.

President Donald Trump is currently considering military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad following Saturday's suspected chemical attack on the rebel-held town of Douma near the capital city of Damascus. Medical relief groups say the attack killed dozens of civilians.

Russia is Assad's most powerful ally and has been supporting him in the Syrian civil war since September 2015.

http://www.newsweek.com/russia-will-bomb-us-missile-launch-sites-event-syria-attack-ambassador-warns-880456


Very VERY important point here.  Either Putin was BS-ing and he DOES NOT have the capability to counter our missiles and "delivery systems" or he INTENTIONALLY did not.  No doubt US forces warned him to get his assets out of certain area's.  Maybe Putty is looking for an excuse to "Stratigically withdraw" from Syria and Let Iran run the show (?)

Either way Trumo called his bluff...... :popcorn:
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2018, 06:02:21 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 15, 2018, 05:56:43 AM

Very VERY important point here.  Either Putin was BS-ing and he DOES NOT have the capability to counter our missiles and "delivery systems" or he INTENTIONALLY did not.  No doubt US forces warned him to get his assets out of certain area's.  Maybe Putty is looking for an excuse to "Stratigically withdraw" from Syria and Let Iran run the show (?)

Either way Trumo called his bluff...... :popcorn:
Can you imagine the embarrassment had he even tried? :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 15, 2018, 06:11:38 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 15, 2018, 06:02:21 AM
Can you imagine the embarrassment had he even tried? :laugh:



Something just occurred to me as an after thought.......

We know that IRAN has purchased Lots and Lots of neat Toys that go Boom from Russia with the 150 Billion Obamao gave 'em. YET, I am hearing that quite a few Iranian "advisors" got fried in the strike......Maybe, Just MAYBE it was Iran that failed to stop the US Missile's with their recently purchased hardware.....That would be an even better joke. What if Putin sold them substandard defenses and is reserving the good stuff for himself....or the "good stuff" doesn't exist at all?  I paid 150 billion and all I got was this lousy missile defense system? You mean those nasty Joo's can strike us at will?  The Great Satan can stomp u like worms?

If I were an Ayattolah, I certainly be asking my "Partner" what the hell..... :popcorn:

Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2018, 06:51:01 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 15, 2018, 06:11:38 AM


Something just occurred to me as an after thought.......

We know that IRAN has purchased Lots and Lots of neat Toys that go Boom from Russia with the 150 Billion Obamao gave 'em. YET, I am hearing that quite a few Iranian "advisors" got fried in the strike......Maybe, Just MAYBE it was Iran that failed to stop the US Missile's with their recently purchased hardware.....That would be an even better joke. What if Putin sold them substandard defenses and is reserving the good stuff for himself....or the "good stuff" doesn't exist at all?  I paid 150 billion and all I got was this lousy missile defense system? You mean those nasty Joo's can strike us at will?  The Great Satan can stomp u like worms?

If I were an Ayattolah, I certainly be asking my "Partner" what the hell..... :popcorn:
:lol:
Funny you should mention that...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/large-scale-explosion-reported-at-iranian-base-in-syria/
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 15, 2018, 07:13:09 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 15, 2018, 06:51:01 AM
:lol:
Funny you should mention that...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/large-scale-explosion-reported-at-iranian-base-in-syria/

My after thought surmise was baed on this article....
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Bronx on April 15, 2018, 08:54:04 AM
I'm watching the Sunday liberal news and laughing my butt off. My wife came in and asked what comedy I was watching and I told her the Sunday morning liberal news. She shook her head and laughed.

They're butthurt over President's Tomahawk strikes on the terrorist hotbed better known as Syria. Obama sends the terrorist 400 billion dollars and not a peep. Trump sends the terrorist a few Tomahawk missiles and the world is coming to an end.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2018, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: Bronx on April 15, 2018, 08:54:04 AM
I'm watching the Sunday liberal news and laughing my butt off. My wife came in and asked what comedy I was watching and I told her the Sunday morning liberal news. She shook her head and laughed.

They're butthurt over President's Tomahawk strikes on the terrorist hotbed better known as Syria. Obama sends the terrorist 400 billion dollars and not a peep. Trump sends the terrorist a few Tomahawk missiles and the world is coming to an end.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
That about sums it up.
Trump, once again, steals the narrative from leftist media. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Walter Josh on April 15, 2018, 12:20:34 PM
War is many negative things yet on the positive
side, it is an adventure which reveals character.
So a query and a reflection.
* Given the visual results of the Syrian raids, wonder
what Rocket Man's Generals are now thinking, should
they precipitate a military reply from the USA?????
* Predictably, the Bobsie Twins / Coulter and Ingram,
have their knickers in a twist about the raid w/comments
such as; "Syria is thousands of miles away and of no
strategic value." Hmm............... how insightful!!!
In 1914, Sarajevo was 400 miles from Vienna and w/o
strategic value. Yet what happened there precipitated
the greatest catastrophe Mankind ever experienced
and which continues to reverberate to this day.
Anyone in contact w/them, pls advise that distance
and time are relative.

Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: ConservativeInCT on April 18, 2018, 05:26:57 AM
The last thing America needs right now is another war. I would be far fetched to believe that these airstrikes will lead to a mass presence of ground troops, but again let's not overstep here. We are playing a dicey game with Russia that I only have to hope that Trump will help with. Let's not forget when Obama drew the line in the sand and did nothing to punish Assad when he did a similar string of Chemical/Barrel Bomb attacks in 2013. Trump is just doing the job that Obama never could.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Walter Josh on April 18, 2018, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: ConservativeInCT on April 18, 2018, 05:26:57 AM
The last thing America needs right now is another war. I would be far fetched to believe that these airstrikes will lead to a mass presence of ground troops, but again let's not overstep here. We are playing a dicey game with Russia that I only have to hope that Trump will help with. Let's not forget when Obama drew the line in the sand and did nothing to punish Assad when he did a similar string of Chemical/Barrel Bomb attacks in 2013. Trump is just doing the job that Obama never could.
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Some opinions/observations:
* Russia is a world power in their own mind as well as an economic basket case.
* The Syrian strike was directed physically at Assad and mentally at Rocket Man.
* We have the makings of a winning coalition in the Middle East among
Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and Turkey.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2018, 11:23:07 AM
Quote from: Walter Josh on April 18, 2018, 10:31:32 AM
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Some opinions/observations:
* Russia is a world power in their own mind as well as an economic basket case.
* The Syrian strike was directed physically at Assad and mentally at Rocket Man.
* We have the makings of a winning coalition in the Middle East among
Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and Turkey.
:thumbup:
Spot on Walter.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: walkstall on April 18, 2018, 05:28:36 PM
Quote from: ConservativeInCT on April 18, 2018, 05:26:57 AM
The last thing America needs right now is another war. I would be far fetched to believe that these airstrikes will lead to a mass presence of ground troops, but again let's not overstep here. We are playing a dicey game with Russia that I only have to hope that Trump will help with. Let's not forget when Obama drew the line in the sand and did nothing to punish Assad when he did a similar string of Chemical/Barrel Bomb attacks in 2013. Trump is just doing the job that Obama never could.

NEVER WOULD!!!!!
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 18, 2018, 06:15:41 PM
Not so sure about Turkey.
Title: Re: Trump Attacks Syria
Post by: Walter Josh on April 18, 2018, 07:58:28 PM
Boo, an observation.
Mustapha Kemal revolutionized Turkey, then the leading Islamic power in
the world, by separating Mosque and State as well as secularizing the nation.
Since his era, the key to power in Turkey has always been the Army and I
question whether Erdogan, a Fidel Castro type, fully grasps this?
Our morass in the Middle East is attributable to Buffoon Bush and Hustler Obama;
yet we do have leverage.
Consider: the Emirate of Bahrain, the Sultanate of Oman , the Kingdom of Qatar
and the UAE; each w/rulers openly friendly to the USA, contain extensive Air and
Naval facilities built by the British long ago and regularly ungraded by our DoD.
Also, the French presence as our ally is a significant plus, as they enjoy a far more
favorable reputation than the British, in that region and previously controlled both
Lebanon and Syria till 1930.
Anyway, we shall see.