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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: walkstall on September 12, 2018, 01:04:50 PM

Title: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: walkstall on September 12, 2018, 01:04:50 PM
It's about time.  This will piss off the left.  :thumbsup:

Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE detention program, according to DHS document

more @
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/12/document-shows-the-trump-administration-diverted-nearly-10-million-from-fema-to-ice-detention-program/?utm_term=.1f0d03727eb2
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: harry12 on September 12, 2018, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: walkstall on September 12, 2018, 01:04:50 PM
It's about time.  This will piss off the left.  :thumbsup:

Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE detention program, according to DHS document

more @
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/12/document-shows-the-trump-administration-diverted-nearly-10-million-from-fema-to-ice-detention-program/?utm_term=.1f0d03727eb2

Much to the Media's dismay, I believe it was Operational Funds, not Disaster Funds.  When Homeland Security(HS) was established,
and agencies like FEMA were merged into it, the Agency budgets were combined...though HS will ask for funding  by Agency
requirements...It all starts out in an overall pool, and HS has the authority to redirect if funding is in surplus.  Which in fact is the case
here.  Fema has 10 million is excess funding, which will expire at the end of this month, so HS has reassigned it to ICE.  Perfectly
normal.  FEMA's current operation in preparation for Florence landfall is paid for out of the Disaster Fund. 
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: T Hunt on September 12, 2018, 05:16:08 PM
Quote from: walkstall on September 12, 2018, 01:04:50 PM
It's about time.  This will piss off the left.  :thumbsup:

Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE detention program, according to DHS document

more @
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/12/document-shows-the-trump-administration-diverted-nearly-10-million-from-fema-to-ice-detention-program/?utm_term=.1f0d03727eb2

Oh im sure the left just HATES this. How delicious! 😁

Wheres Boo with his lib heads exploding video?
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: Billy's bayonet on September 12, 2018, 05:17:42 PM
The leftist Nut bags will be screaming about how "Trump diverted Hurricane Florence funds" to ICE....Watch.
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: ConservativeInCT on September 12, 2018, 06:05:52 PM
Yes. FEMA lost some of its funding but there are other organizations like the Red Cross and the Coast Gaurd that also provide disaster relief and assistance to areas hit by natural disasters. There are more than one disaster relief organizations in America but only one ICE.
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: T Hunt on September 12, 2018, 06:48:38 PM
Quote from: harry12 on September 12, 2018, 02:21:35 PM
Much to the Media's dismay, I believe it was Operational Funds, not Disaster Funds.  When Homeland Security(HS) was established,
and agencies like FEMA were merged into it, the Agency budgets were combined...though HS will ask for funding  by Agency
requirements...It all starts out in an overall pool, and HS has the authority to redirect if funding is in surplus.  Which in fact is the case
here.  Fema has 10 million is excess funding, which will expire at the end of this month, so HS has reassigned it to ICE.  Perfectly
normal.  FEMA's current operation in preparation for Florence landfall is paid for out of the Disaster Fund.

Oh im sure the left just HATES this. How delicious! 😁

Wheres Boo with his lib heads exploding video?
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: walkstall on September 12, 2018, 06:53:38 PM
Quote from: ConservativeInCT on September 12, 2018, 06:05:52 PM
Yes. FEMA lost some of its funding but there are other organizations like the Red Cross and the Coast Gaurd that also provide disaster relief and assistance to areas hit by natural disasters. There are more than one disaster relief organizations in America but only one ICE.


Hmm...  I would not bet my life on the Red Cross.  One money grabbing organizations. 
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: Solar on September 12, 2018, 07:59:20 PM
Did anyone read the comment section? The libs are going nuts, and forgetting all the shit Obozo pulled.
One guy posted how FEMA gets billions and ICE only get millions of the budget.
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: T Hunt on September 12, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
Quote from: walkstall on September 12, 2018, 06:53:38 PM

Hmm...  I would not bet my life on the Red Cross.  One money grabbing organizations.

Q says the red cross is connected to child traffiking...
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: Cryptic Bert on September 12, 2018, 10:32:21 PM
Well, we now know what the narrative is going to be. Whatever happens during this storm it will because Trump took money away and gave it to ICE and right before the mid terms.
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: supsalemgr on September 13, 2018, 04:40:42 AM
Quote from: harry12 on September 12, 2018, 02:21:35 PM
Much to the Media's dismay, I believe it was Operational Funds, not Disaster Funds.  When Homeland Security(HS) was established,
and agencies like FEMA were merged into it, the Agency budgets were combined...though HS will ask for funding  by Agency
requirements...It all starts out in an overall pool, and HS has the authority to redirect if funding is in surplus.  Which in fact is the case
here.  Fema has 10 million is excess funding, which will expire at the end of this month, so HS has reassigned it to ICE.  Perfectly
normal.  FEMA's current operation in preparation for Florence landfall is paid for out of the Disaster Fund.

There was news conference yesterday morning with the NC Emergency folks. This was the first question some reporterette asked. Obviously a political question and not a hurricane preparedness question. The responder said FEMA had plenty of funds for this event. Later, the reasoning you provided about the funds was explained.
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: Solar on September 13, 2018, 07:24:02 AM
For the libs reading:

Anti-Trump rally this Friday morning down at the beach in Wilmington, NC. Make sure to tell all your #Antifa friends! #bluewave is coming!
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: harry12 on September 13, 2018, 08:21:25 AM
Quote from: walkstall on September 12, 2018, 06:53:38 PM

Hmm...  I would not bet my life on the Red Cross.  One money grabbing organizations.

Amen to that.  During one of the LA Earthquake disasters, Loma Prieda I think.  Part of the mission
of the RC and Salvation Army was to provide temp housing (tents), and food to evacuee's.  64 Million
was taken out of the Presidential Disaster Fund to pay for this effort.  Later, The RC made a major
public appeal for funds, saysing they had spent 64 million, and their funds were depleted.  They
never spend a nickle, FEMA paid for it all.  Elizabeth Dole at her very best, This was the same year
that RC built their super new hQ in DC.   
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: mdgiles on September 13, 2018, 08:49:43 AM
Don't forget to tell them to bring their swim suits; they'll be a swim party afterwards. :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: Solar on September 13, 2018, 09:11:50 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on September 13, 2018, 08:49:43 AM
Don't forget to tell them to bring their swim suits; they'll be a swim party afterwards. :laugh:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Surfing ought to be great.
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: SueAnn on September 13, 2018, 09:24:30 AM
Quote from: walkstall on September 12, 2018, 06:53:38 PM

Hmm...  I would not bet my life on the Red Cross.  One money grabbing organizations.

According to what I have learned on the Q board, grabbing MONEY is the LEAST of the Red Cross sins.  Evil organization, to be sure.
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: harry12 on September 13, 2018, 07:02:37 PM
Quote from: SueAnn on September 13, 2018, 09:24:30 AM
According to what I have learned on the Q board, grabbing MONEY is the LEAST of the Red Cross sins.  Evil organization, to be sure.

Canada banned the RC some years ago. Sorta get out, and stay out.
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: SueAnn on September 13, 2018, 08:55:18 PM
Quote from: harry12 on September 13, 2018, 07:02:37 PM
Canada banned the RC some years ago. Sorta get out, and stay out.

I was not aware of that.  What was the official reason given?
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: Solar on September 14, 2018, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: harry12 on September 13, 2018, 07:02:37 PM
Canada banned the RC some years ago. Sorta get out, and stay out.
http://www.redcross.ca/about-us/about-the-canadian-red-cross
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: harry12 on September 15, 2018, 07:39:22 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 14, 2018, 10:04:44 AM
http://www.redcross.ca/about-us/about-the-canadian-red-cross

I stand corrected.

However:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Red_Cross#History (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Red_Cross#History)

Controversy
Krever Commission
Main article: Royal Commission of Inquiry on the Blood System in Canada

Until September 28, 1998, the Canadian Red Cross was responsible for all blood services in Canada. On the recommendation of the Krever Commission, the organization was removed from this position and replaced by the Canadian Blood Services. This was due to nationwide controversy when it was revealed that the Canadian Red Cross had supplied, between 1986 and 1990, blood which it knew might be tainted with Hepatitis C and HIV.[26]

In 1994, an investigation found that 95 percent of hemophiliacs who used blood products supplied by the Canadian Red Cross prior to 1990 had contracted Hepatitis C.[27] According to the Krever Commission, approximately 85 percent of those infections could have been prevented. Compared to blood services in Europe and the United States, the CRC was slow to disseminate information about possible infection to those receiving blood products.[28] More than 1,100 Canadians were infected with HIV and 20,000 contracted Hepatitis C from blood transfusions given by the Red Cross during that period.[29]

The Canadian Red Cross was fined $5,000 for its role in the tainted blood scandal and the organization agreed to plead guilty to distributing a contaminated drug. It agreed to donate $1.5 million to the University of Ottawa for a research endowment fund, as well as a scholarship for the family members of those affected. In exchange, six criminal charges against the Canadian Red Cross were dropped.[27]

Dr. Roger Perrault, the director of the Canadian Red Cross at the time, was put on trial for his role in the scandal. The first trial, in Toronto before the Superior Court of Justice, resulted in an acquittal. He had been charged with four counts of criminal negligence causing bodily harm and one of common nuisance. The counts of criminal negligence were specific to four victims who had contracted HIV from tainted blood. The second trial, in Hamilton, also before the Superior Court of Justice, resulted in charges being withdrawn. The charges were six counts of common nuisance and "stemmed from an allegation he endangered the public by failing to properly screen donors, implement testing for blood-borne viruses and warn the public of the danger regarding hepatitis C and HIV" and relate to a period of time in which the understanding of AIDS was even more rudimentary. The charges were withdrawn on the basis that there was no longer a reasonable prospect of conviction.[30]

Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: Solar on September 15, 2018, 08:13:37 AM
Quote from: harry12 on September 15, 2018, 07:39:22 AM
I stand corrected.

However:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Red_Cross#History (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Red_Cross#History)

Controversy
Krever Commission
Main article: Royal Commission of Inquiry on the Blood System in Canada

Until September 28, 1998, the Canadian Red Cross was responsible for all blood services in Canada. On the recommendation of the Krever Commission, the organization was removed from this position and replaced by the Canadian Blood Services. This was due to nationwide controversy when it was revealed that the Canadian Red Cross had supplied, between 1986 and 1990, blood which it knew might be tainted with Hepatitis C and HIV.[26]

In 1994, an investigation found that 95 percent of hemophiliacs who used blood products supplied by the Canadian Red Cross prior to 1990 had contracted Hepatitis C.[27] According to the Krever Commission, approximately 85 percent of those infections could have been prevented. Compared to blood services in Europe and the United States, the CRC was slow to disseminate information about possible infection to those receiving blood products.[28] More than 1,100 Canadians were infected with HIV and 20,000 contracted Hepatitis C from blood transfusions given by the Red Cross during that period.[29]

The Canadian Red Cross was fined $5,000 for its role in the tainted blood scandal and the organization agreed to plead guilty to distributing a contaminated drug. It agreed to donate $1.5 million to the University of Ottawa for a research endowment fund, as well as a scholarship for the family members of those affected. In exchange, six criminal charges against the Canadian Red Cross were dropped.[27]

Dr. Roger Perrault, the director of the Canadian Red Cross at the time, was put on trial for his role in the scandal. The first trial, in Toronto before the Superior Court of Justice, resulted in an acquittal. He had been charged with four counts of criminal negligence causing bodily harm and one of common nuisance. The counts of criminal negligence were specific to four victims who had contracted HIV from tainted blood. The second trial, in Hamilton, also before the Superior Court of Justice, resulted in charges being withdrawn. The charges were six counts of common nuisance and "stemmed from an allegation he endangered the public by failing to properly screen donors, implement testing for blood-borne viruses and warn the public of the danger regarding hepatitis C and HIV" and relate to a period of time in which the understanding of AIDS was even more rudimentary. The charges were withdrawn on the basis that there was no longer a reasonable prospect of conviction.[30]
I remember when this news broke and how the Red Cross spent millions to repair the damage.
In my view, they failed miserably, I see them in the same light as the Dim party.
Title: Re: Trump administration diverted nearly $10 million from FEMA to ICE
Post by: harry12 on September 15, 2018, 09:29:07 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 15, 2018, 08:13:37 AM
I remember when this news broke and how the Red Cross spent millions to repair the damage.
In my view, they failed miserably, I see them in the same light as the Dim party.

I guess you understand then, why I do not have a warm/fuzzy feeling for the ARC.