Quote from: Solar on May 25, 2016, 04:38:16 PM
When if ever, have you seen a Conservative movement like #Nevertrump take place during an election?
When have we ever seen two of the most despised and negatively rated candidates vying for office where the majority of the country hates them equally?

How is it, a man that ran to the right to get the nomination, needs to run to the left to secure a nomination in the GOP'e with the help of socialist voters?
A man that so far, has flip flopped on every promise, now says those were only suggestions?
The guy said he "PROMISED!" but now says they were only suggestions?

But I have just one question. How fuckin gullible are you Trumpaloons, that you're willing to put a liberal in the WH, just because he made you "Feel" better?

Trump ought to cut the shit and run on "Vote Trump, I Ain't Clinton", because seriously, that's all he has going for him.

A friend of mine said tonight that she will vote for the trumptrash because he is the lessor evil and she doesn't want to see the Republican party split up.  I say, split it up, gut it, and let it bleed out until they get back to the conservative principles!  And if that takes hitlery presidency, then so be it.  I am writing in Cruz.

Quote from: Disheartened on May 26, 2016, 07:16:26 PM
A friend of mine said tonight that she will vote for the trumptrash because he is the lessor evil and she doesn't want to see the Republican party split up.  I say, split it up, gut it, and let it bleed out until they get back to the conservative principles!  And if that takes hitlery presidency, then so be it.  I am writing in Cruz.

Your not the only one young lady.  I was in town shopping and had lunch out.  I overheard three young ladies say the same thing.  I would say they were all around 40 to 40+ something.  One other lady said she would not vote.  By the end of lunch she was going to also write in Cruz.  Your friends do have a way of opening your eyes. 

Quote from: Solar on May 26, 2016, 05:31:31 PM
Thanks, but wanna bet it doesn't get a response....

You mean from li'l ol' me?  Gosh...

Wuddya want me to respond to, about your response?  A lib hit-rag quote...  An Eric Bolling generalization...  A lib hit-network tar-swipe...   Btw, I thought we weren't supposed to use lib-websites to prove argumentative points.

... a finance-chairman for the campaign.  Not for consideration to the Federal Reserve Board nor the Treasury Department...  and a quote about printing money which we're already doing, which RedState has no clue as far as an alternative option to avoid defaulting.

Let's pick that one.  Everybody remembers Erick Erickson's embarrassing 'dis-inviting' Trump to speak at his convention last year, when Erickson was still at RedState.  There hasn't been a backfire like that since Don Garlits at the La Paz Winternationals...  " Sunday!  Sunday!  Sunday... ! "

RedState should've changed their name to Red-Faced.  Nobody shared his outrage.  It was all so petty.  He was already in-trouble for tweeting:  My daughter is becoming a woman.  She's learning how to make me sandwiches.

Okay, the article...

Just in the last couple of weeks, Donald Trump has advocated a number of economic policies that would have the known effect of plunging the United States into a recession, and more specifically devaluing United States currency

Okay, where's the counter-foil?   The writer said 'known'. 

His ongoing rhetoric on starting foolish and ill-advised trade wars has been rightly lampooned as a recipe for disaster since his campaign began.

'Foolish'...  Is the writer suggesting Trump is suggesting that America will flood the globe with cheap US-products at a loss?  China's doing that now again, with cheap steel and drywall.  I.E., a trade war is already in-progress.  What's rhetorical about it?  The writer doesn't say.  Trump's goal would be to flood China with cheap American exports.  Or- how's this?  Charge China an enormous tariff-rate for their imports to American-ports.  Prices align more equitably.  Is that 'foolish'?  There's only 2 ways to play it.  We're not talking about grand swafts of products whose prices will go up for Americans until exports/imports align.  The writer obviously thinks that. Construction-materials are what's in-play... the costs of new homes and buildings.  The price of a toaster or hair-dryer, etc., stays unaffected.  ...... 'ill-advised'...  By whom?  Other writers?

In the last week, he's also tacked on a couple of policy ideas that would have the known effect of drastically devaluing United States currency: allowing the United States to default on their debt and (today) just printing more money to avoid the default he specifically advocated for on Saturday.

You already said that.  3 sentences into the article and the writer basically repeats one of them.  There's that word again...  'known'.  By re-stating it, the reader gets the impression that the writer is taking Trump's remark out-of-context from some broader statement:

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-default-print-money-2016-5

(A better example to use then RedState, minus the girlish-giggling)  So Trump's observation that it's theoretically possible for the government to avoid default by printing money is technically true. But any actual implementation of that plan would likely be as big of a mess as his initial plan of offering an overt haircut to creditors. (repaying investors 80% if every dollar borrowed)

Trump is asked a question and he answers it.  He spins after... not before... like politicians.

It's easy to write this stuff off as just another example of Trump not knowing what the hell he is talking about and/or talking out of both sides of his mouth, and that's probably the case here.

'Probably'.  I love the way that word disqualifies the entire expressed opinion at the end. 

But you do have to ask, who would benefit from such a move?

Do I?  I'm thinking of the treasury-bond investors who're potentially not benefiting.  Why should I be thinking of somebody who's benefiting?   We readers don't carry-around paranoid conspiracy-complexes on auto-activate.

Who, other than a long time buddy of Donald Trump's who has made a substantial portion of his money by betting against sovereign currency?

'Long time buddy'..  the writer, setting-up an embellishment, sure to provoke a deflated " really?  hmph. " when revealed.

None other than George Soros, of course.

Really?  Hmph.  One of 3 hedge-funds Trump borrowed from in 2004, to build Trump Tower.  The writer doesn't tell you that.  I did.  'Long time buddy', eh?  That's the only connection.  One and done.  Maybe that's why Yorgi is spending millions to smear Trump.  He has a jealous man-fixation.

Keep in mind, Trump has a lengthy history of using him connections with government to benefit himself and his friends.

Where are the links?  Show us, Leon.  Ohhhh, the proofreading-SNAFU:  'using him connections' inferred that you were still 3rd-personning Soros.  C'mon, RedState.  Hire a professional proofreader.

We shouldn't rule out the possibility that his own pecuniary gain (or the pecuniary gain of his allies) is the reason Donald Trump does or suggests anything.

Do we ever rule that out, even among our immediate family?  Leon musta been winding-down...



Here he is being busted for something...  (if he can infer, so can I)

There it is, folks.   8 sentences.  Remember to drive safely 'n we'll see ya next time       

   



   

Quote from: Disheartened on May 26, 2016, 07:16:26 PM
A friend of mine said tonight that she will vote for the trumptrash because he is the lessor evil and she doesn't want to see the Republican party split up.  I say, split it up, gut it, and let it bleed out until they get back to the conservative principles!  And if that takes hitlery presidency, then so be it.  I am writing in Cruz.

Same here...

This is the ONLY reason I can find - seriously - to vote for Donald:
http://www.salon.com/2016/05/26/sanders_dnc_platform_team_pushes_for_palestinian_rights_blasts_israeli_war_crimes/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Because I stand for the tiny nation of Israel, who is surrounded by Goliaths. 

OK, so that's ONE reason, but.... I haven't heard anything from the Trump Camp that assures me he's not nodding his head in approval with Bernie and the Democrats!

Trump did such a great job alienating Conservatives, without any doubt, the new GOP base is disenfranchised Dems.

Ted Cruz - no question about him, and neither one of us is wavering - I got a VOTE and a PEN.

Quote from: kit saginaw on May 26, 2016, 10:45:22 PM
You mean from li'l ol' me?  Gosh...

Wuddya want me to respond to, about your response?  A lib hit-rag quote...  An Eric Bolling generalization...  A lib hit-network tar-swipe...   Btw, I thought we weren't supposed to use lib-websites to prove argumentative points.

First off, lose that sarcastic attitude, I gave you specific examples, and even after having been a member on this forum for years, avoided using the quote function so you could go about the process of building straw men.
Here they are, lets try this again, shall we, and this time, if you're going to make claims, back them up, I did.
So lets start with the first one, shall we?

"Trump: Everything I say now is a suggestion"
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-everything-i-say-suggestion-223157

Eric Bolling says he has NO idea what Trump's policies are, and that's why he's SO AWESOME!
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/well-trumpanzees-are-you-really-this-gullible/

Donald Trump Flip Flops on Taxes, Min Wage
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-flip-flops-taxes-wages-he-turns-focus-general-election

Trump's Finance Adviser former Goldman Sachs board member
Not just a lib, but a Soros lib.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-05/trump-picks-former-goldman-partner-and-soros-employee-finance-chairman
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-new-finance-chairman-has-long-history-of-donating-to-dems/article/2590486

QuoteTrump: 'We'll Just Print Money to Avoid the Default I Specifically Advocated for on Saturday'
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/05/09/trump-well-just-print-money-avoid-default-specifically-
... a finance-chairman for the campaign.  Not for consideration to the Federal Reserve Board nor the Treasury Department...  and a quote about printing money which we're already doing, which RedState has no clue as far as an alternative option to avoid defaulting.
Let's pick that one.  Everybody remembers Erick Erickson's embarrassing 'dis-inviting' Trump to speak at his convention last year, when Erickson was still at RedState.  There hasn't been a backfire like that since Don Garlits at the La Paz Winternationals...  " Sunday!  Sunday!  Sunday... ! "


RedState should've changed their name to Red-Faced.  Nobody shared his outrage.  It was all so petty.  He was already in-trouble for tweeting:  My daughter is becoming a woman.  She's learning how to make me sandwiches.
Okay, the article...

No, we're not picking and choosing, we're discussing the actual quotes, so address the quote, and no, we're not simply printing money as you assess, Trump wants to kick that up on steroids. I care nothing about attacking the messenger, that's a lib trait,.... of wait.

Quote'Long time buddy'..  the writer, setting-up an embellishment, sure to provoke a deflated " really?  hmph. " when revealed.

None other than George Soros, of course.

Really?  Hmph.  One of 3 hedge-funds Trump borrowed from in 2004, to build Trump Tower.  The writer doesn't tell you that.  I did.

And that's supposed to help his case?

Quote'Long time buddy', eh?  That's the only connection.  One and done.  Maybe that's why Yorgi is spending millions to smear Trump.  He has a jealous man-fixation.

So that's how it works, pick a phrase, parse it, then claim since the author doesn't give a timeline of Steven Mnuchin and Trump outings, the entire article is to be ignored?
You Trumpaloons are quite the prize...

QuoteKeep in mind, Trump has a lengthy history of using him connections with government to benefit himself and his friends.

Where are the links?  Show us, Leon.  Ohhhh, the proofreading-SNAFU:  'using him connections' inferred that you were still 3rd-personning Soros.  C'mon, RedState.  Hire a professional proofreader.

We shouldn't rule out the possibility that his own pecuniary gain (or the pecuniary gain of his allies) is the reason Donald Trump does or suggests anything.

Do we ever rule that out, even among our immediate family?  Leon musta been winding-down...

Here he is being busted for something...  (if he can infer, so can I)

There it is, folks.   8 sentences.  Remember to drive safely 'n we'll see ya next time       

It was in the articl, which is the reason Trump hired him, for his connections, sheesh.
FEC records show that over the course of 18 years, beginning with a $500 donation to Democrat Chuck Schumer's Senate campaign in 1998, Mnuchin has made $68,300 in campaign contributions.
ighty-five percent, or $57,800 of which has gone to Democratic candidates in gubernatorial, senatorial and presidential races.

Among the Democratic candidates Trump's finance chairman has contributed to: President Obama ($4,300); former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ($8,200); former Democratic presidential nominees John Kerry ($500) and Al Gore ($1,000); former Democratic Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards ($4,100); former Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu ($2,300); New York Sen. Chuck Schumer ($2,500) and former New Jersey congressional candidate Michael Wildes ($11,500).

Mnuchin also contributed $10,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in 2004.
   
So, lets try again, and this time from the top, shall wee?
"Trump: Everything I say now is a suggestion"
He said this before when referring to earlier claims about the Wall or his illegal immigration plan, which is now nothing more than smoke and mirrors.