Libs are freakin out! :thumbsup:
A community orchestra performance, a new work from an emerging playwright, art therapy for a returning veteran, local library classes in Braille, free standardized-test preparation, and Bert and Ernie. Thousands of such programs could be gutted under President Trump's proposed budget.
The budget plan, which calls for the elimination of four independent cultural agencies — the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, the Institute of Museum and Library Services, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting — also would radically reshape the nation's cultural infrastructure.
Although the budgets of the four organizations slated for elimination are negligible as a percentage of the larger federal budget, they play a vital role in a cultural economy built on a system of federal stimulus. Federal dollars are used to leverage state, local and private funding that supports a complex network of arts organizations, educational entities, museums, libraries and public broadcasting affiliates.
For decades, arts and cultural leaders have fought regular battles to maintain federal funding, and they now find themselves part of a larger, unprecedented attempt to dismantle the federal government's role in American life. As they struggle to explain why they deserve federal dollars, other federal departments and agencies are fighting for their share, which in turn could put increased strain on philanthropic funding for a large range of social services, including health care and education.
The president's budget would eliminate the NEA's $148 million budget, the NEH's $148 million budget and the CPB's $445 million budget, as well as $230 million for the Institute of Museum and Library Services, which supports libraries and museums across the country. Additional cuts could affect the Smithsonian Institution and the National Gallery of Art.
"The NEA doesn't tell states what they have to do with [the funds]. The NEA says these are for your state priorities, and that makes them uniquely powerful," said Kelly Barsdate, chief program and planning officer at the NASAA. "It's a true model of how the federal government can work in effective concert with the states."
Those state grants are crucial to arts organizations, including those that help young actors get their first roles and young writers develop their voices, said Edgar Dobie, executive director of Washington's Arena Stage, which has been awarded grants of $30,000 to $50,000 in recent years.
"It's the R&D the field needs," Dobie said. "It's so shortsighted to say it's not as important as a new helicopter."
Although all states would suffer under the proposed budget, poor and rural communities would be hardest hit, according to the NASAA. About 25 percent of NEA block-grant funds go to rural communities and 54 percent to low-income areas.
"We are gravely concerned about the impact on rural areas, low-income areas, schoolchildren, seniors and veterans," Barsdate said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/with-elimination-of-nea-and-neh-trumps-budget-is-worst-case-scenario-for-arts-groups/2017/03/15/5291645a-09bb-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?utm_term=.2fe121f8fe8a
Didn't they just say, "The NEA doesn't tell states what they have to do with [the funds]" Am I detecting a lie? :biggrin:
As they say " a hundred million here, a hundred million there, pretty soon you are talking about some real money". :thumbup: :thumbup:
Quote from: s3779m on March 16, 2017, 06:11:07 AM
As they say " a hundred million here, a hundred million there, pretty soon you are talking about some real money". :thumbup: :thumbup:
Yeah, it isn't even the money for me. For me, it's ripping control from leftists, breaking their fingers off from touching every aspect of our culture.
Just try reading a site that gets our tax dollars, they all push the same leftist agenda, whether it's global warming or abortion, it's the killing of their concerted message that I relish. :thumbsup:
What a nice way to start the year out right. When thing get tight around the house. We all know what we can cut and not miss it.
I don't like the government telling me who I have to give money.
Quote from: walkstall on March 16, 2017, 06:50:26 AM
What a nice way to start the year out right. When thing get tight around the house. We all know what we can cut and not miss it.
I don't like the government telling me who I have to give money.
Yeah, this is huge, and it steals away a RINO bargaining chip when it comes budget time.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/16/trumps-federal-budget-would-eliminate-dozens-of-agencies-and-programs.html
I was going to start a thread on this until I saw Solar had started one. As indicated, lobbyists and bureaucrats, not to mention GOPe, are probably going nuts. How dare Trump try to keep his campaign pledges?
Here is a rundown on the programs to be axed. I would think many of us did not even know these wastes are.
Listened to Lavin last night he said The EPA is also getting ripped by 31%
Quote from: Solar on March 16, 2017, 05:57:25 AM
Libs are freakin out! :thumbsup:
A community orchestra performance, a new work from an emerging playwright, art therapy for a returning veteran, local library classes in Braille, free standardized-test preparation, and Bert and Ernie. Thousands of such programs could be gutted under President Trump's proposed budget.
The budget plan, which calls for the elimination of four independent cultural agencies — the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, the Institute of Museum and Library Services, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting — also would radically reshape the nation's cultural infrastructure.
Although all states would suffer under the proposed budget, poor and rural communities would be hardest hit, according to the NASAA. About 25 percent of NEA block-grant funds go to rural communities and 54 percent to low-income areas.
"We are gravely concerned about the impact on rural areas, low-income areas, schoolchildren, seniors and veterans," Barsdate said.
Poor & Rural communities hardest hit....HOW?I grew up in very rural SW Wisconsin, we could pick up 3-4 NPR stations, all filling the airwaves with the same LIBERAL, NEW AGE, ONE WORLDLY - NPR crap. The cows didn't like it, pigs hated it, horses kick at the stalls - and we considered it a bunch of high-brow-types trying to educate us about the environment we lived in daily - "Educated Idiots" we called them.
I still laugh when one of us tells stories of these 'highly educated types' peeing on an electric fence, or trying to outrun a raging Ram or Billy goat... they tried to "bond" with. Sure, "Love conquers all" - unless it has a huge set of horns, equals your weight, and his favorite goat friend hasn't come into heat yet....
Poor Rural folks aren't listening to NPR. RICH Elitist slobs who buy 1 acre among 3 family farms and complain about the smell of 'farmer's money' listen to NPR. (Translation: Pigs, Horses, Cattle, Goats, Sheep, Turkeys, & Chickens
all smell the same - that's the smell of MONEY)
Quote from: walkstall on March 16, 2017, 06:50:26 AM
What a nice way to start the year out right. When thing get tight around the house. We all know what we can cut and not miss it.
I don't like the government telling me who I have to give money.
Me too, especially when it's
THEM! :biggrin:
I have already seen a couple of articles about how these cuts will hurt the GOP in the mid-terms. Don't these people understand this is what TEA is about? However, it does show how corrupt the congress critters are.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 16, 2017, 12:59:00 PM
I have already seen a couple of articles about how these cuts will hurt the GOP in the mid-terms. Don't these people understand this is what TEA is about? However, it does show how corrupt the congress critters are.
Cut PBS and NPR budgets and their existing operating capital still allows plenty of time to infest the airwaves with anti-GOP diatribes.
Just like today, only with an end now in sight. It will only get meaner and more obvious. It will fit the worsening mood of the wounded leftists who themselves are sniveling about the end to a gravy train.
If local stations cannot find local sponsors after decades of governmental support, then they deserve to "go dark" and surrender their frequencies to other operators.
The problem is, this can't be forced. Individual universities had radio licenses BEFORE the CPB and NPR were created.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 16, 2017, 12:59:00 PM
I have already seen a couple of articles about how these cuts will hurt the GOP in the mid-terms. Don't these people understand this is what TEA is about? However, it does show how corrupt the congress critters are.
Expect to see that coupled with polls sponsored by the GOP showing people demanding less cuts and more (___________) fill in the blank for Establishment wishlist item.
Quote from: Hoofer on March 16, 2017, 09:34:50 AM
Poor & Rural communities hardest hit....HOW?
I grew up in very rural SW Wisconsin, we could pick up 3-4 NPR stations, all filling the airwaves with the same LIBERAL, NEW AGE, ONE WORLDLY - NPR crap. The cows didn't like it, pigs hated it, horses kick at the stalls - and we considered it a bunch of high-brow-types trying to educate us about the environment we lived in daily - "Educated Idiots" we called them.
I still laugh when one of us tells stories of these 'highly educated types' peeing on an electric fence, or trying to outrun a raging Ram or Billy goat... they tried to "bond" with. Sure, "Love conquers all" - unless it has a huge set of horns, equals your weight, and his favorite goat friend hasn't come into heat yet....
Poor Rural folks aren't listening to NPR. RICH Elitist slobs who buy 1 acre among 3 family farms and complain about the smell of 'farmer's money' listen to NPR.
(Translation: Pigs, Horses, Cattle, Goats, Sheep, Turkeys, & Chickens all smell the same - that's the smell of MONEY)
:biggrin:
If I ever hear Lake Woebegone ever again, it'll be too soon.
If NPR goes out of business how will we fall asleep at night?
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on March 16, 2017, 08:42:22 AM
Listened to Lavin last night he said The EPA is also getting ripped by 31%
Gee ... looks like we won't all be 'going green' for awhile. Oh by the way ... I'm one of those that doesn't want clean air or water. :thumbsup:
Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 16, 2017, 07:25:23 PM
If NPR goes out of business how will we fall asleep at night?
Hmmm... great point! But think of all the lives saved! Those drivers on long trips,
no NPR - staying awake listening to Mark Levin instead!
Leftards aren't completely ignorant - just mostly - they understand how this will play out. If this budget gets through, and it's demonstrated that we can really survive without all this spending, next year's budget is going to be even more brutal!
Quote from: mdgiles on March 17, 2017, 12:00:33 PM
Leftards aren't completely ignorant - just mostly - they understand how this will play out. If this budget gets through, and it's demonstrated that we can really survive without all this spending, next year's budget is going to be even more brutal!
Well, there is still much waste to be found. However, we should all understand the democrats and GOPe will be there to fight all the waste.
I LIKE HIM!!!!!!!! :thumbup:
Was watching a NOVA program last night.
Keep in mind the left says the KOCH brothers are evil capitalists...
"Major funding for NOVA provided by the DAVID KOCH foundation for the advancement of Science..."
(I laugh every time I hear that - it might be the only one keeping them afloat!)
What really happens.. though... the way LIBERALS fund themselves....
Prioritize to fund the projects they like FIRST, and dribble a few dollars into the "other stuff" that'll keep the money coming in.
The most vile, liberal, whacko, crazy, anti-capitalist, far left, socialist - CRAP gets funded FIRST, everytime!
Keep pumping out those agenda items, and the stuff the public actually tunes in for, "Oh, if we don't get more money, your favorite program is gonna have to be cut... sorry kids!" I've seen it, I've heard it - and scratched my head, asking the question, over and over, why aren't we funding THIS and letting THAT slide?
Case in point: Planned Parenthood funds ABORTIONS... first. Mammograms... no that gets farmed out, and you can bet, is funded on a secondary basis. But, if funding is threatened, the first thing we hear, "We can't do Mammograms!!!!"
Expect to hear the same from NEA, PBS & NPR - the programs you might say, MEH, I guess that's O.K. - those will get the axe FIRST, and the Liberal talkshow hosts, anti-American drivel will survive. Pet projects, ie., Liberal political activism, ALWAYS gets funded first.
How are the organizations colluding with Hussein's OFA going to fund themselves? More people need to realize that it's not as much about the number as what. A billion dollars isn't that much in scope of current spending, but give that to an evil person and the damage can be exponential.
Quote from: taxed on March 17, 2017, 04:47:14 PM
How are the organizations colluding with Hussein's OFA going to fund themselves? More people need to realize that it's not as much about the number as what. A billion dollars isn't that much in scope of current spending, but give that to an evil person and the damage can be exponential.
That's the beauty of cutting off Federal funding (they've been getting a free ride on the backs of the taxpayer!). If they REALLY think it's ESSENTIAL...
they will have to fund it themselves. I doubt any of the NEA, PBS or NPR programming - LIBERAL programming will suffer so much as a single dime in shortfall. However, anything with a hint of being Pro-America, Constitutional, or Conservative...
is toast.Remember, Trump said he would fully fund Planned Parenthood if they quit doing Abortions..... they flat out refused. Hence, it's proof, their Liberal pet political causes ALWAYS get funded first - Mammogram funding is a political "tool" to get more funding for Abortions.
What organization has a reputation for killing dogs and cats? hint: they are not "Humane" by any stretch.
Quote from: mdgiles on March 17, 2017, 12:00:33 PM
Leftards aren't completely ignorant - just mostly - they understand how this will play out. If this budget gets through, and it's demonstrated that we can really survive without all this spending, next year's budget is going to be even more brutal!
Great Lakes states aren't going to put up with Trump's nonsense about cutting funds to preserve the fifth largest fresh water supply on this planet. He's a freaking madman to think he will get away with it.
Quote from: quiller on March 18, 2017, 05:28:38 AM
Great Lakes states aren't going to put up with Trump's nonsense about cutting funds to preserve the fifth largest fresh water supply on this planet. He's a freaking madman to think he will get away with it.
What does the Fed do that the states can't do that requires money?
Quote from: Solar on March 18, 2017, 06:13:21 AM
What does the Fed do that the states can't do that requires money?
International treaties with Canada, which shares that water and has every right to a say in its use. Invasive species coming in from ships off the Ste. Lawrence (and through the antiquated Soo Locks) is a huge problem and one both nations must address to keep the lakes viable.
Quote from: quiller on March 18, 2017, 06:25:06 AM
International treaties with Canada, which shares that water and has every right to a say in its use. Invasive species coming in from ships off the Ste. Lawrence (and through the antiquated Soo Locks) is a huge problem and one both nations must address to keep the lakes viable.
And we need an EPA for what? These are issues dealt with in a court when someone breaks the law.
Point is, the EPA is nothing more than an extension of Federal law, a redundancy, and waste of money for a bureaucracy out of control.
What you really need is an interstate agreement with the backing and support of Federal law, but not a "One size fits all" heavy hand of govt enforcing law that doesn't even apply to lake Michigan.
Got to admit, this Trump feller is starting to grow on me! :thumbup:
This conversation is a perfect example of why cutting anything in the federal government is so difficult. Our good friend, Quiller, is opposed to the EPA cuts in his area. This is the normal NIMB (not in my backyard) response.
So keeping the Great Lakes clean requires the EPA, governmental authority over every backyard pond in the USA - right?
Quote from: MichaelJ on March 18, 2017, 08:11:29 AM
Got to admit, this Trump feller is starting to grow on me! :thumbup:
Same here.
I was one of his most ardent detractors, now I find myself on the other side of the fence most times.
Quote from: Solar on March 18, 2017, 10:46:31 AM
Same here.
I was one of his most ardent detractors, now I find myself on the other side of the fence most times.
He is a pleasant surprise so far. It is too bad he not only has to fight Pelosi and Schummer, but Ryan and McConnell also.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 18, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
He is a pleasant surprise so far. It is too bad he not only has to fight Pelosi and Schummer, but Ryan and McConnell also.
Yep, that's the problem, he has leftists in both party's to deal with. I hope to Hell people are finally waking up to the fact that the GOP is nothing more than an extension of the dim party.
The libs are shittin' pineapples over everything Trump is doing. It just breaks my heart to see so much lib misery out there. Not !
Trump seems to pretty much created a problem. While he is going gangbusters trying to accomplish everything he said he was going to accomplish. It highlights all the other politicians, Federal, State and City that have made promises over the years (typically during election years) and accomplished nothing. We pretty much have nothing but a bunch of bull-shitters in elected offices.
Quote from: Thinker on March 18, 2017, 07:32:59 PM
Trump seems to pretty much created a problem. While he is going gangbusters trying to accomplish everything he said he was going to accomplish. It highlights all the other politicians, Federal, State and City that have made promises over the years (typically during election years) and accomplished nothing. We pretty much have nothing but a bunch of bull-shitters in elected offices.
I have been saying that for over 85+ years!
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 18, 2017, 08:14:39 AM
This conversation is a perfect example of why cutting anything in the federal government is so difficult. Our good friend, Quiller, is opposed to the EPA cuts in his area. This is the normal NIMB (not in my backyard) response.
PAY ATTENTION.
The Great Lakes comprises one-fifth of this entire planet's fresh water supply. It is VITAL that invasive species be kept out. It is vital to international trade along the Ste. Lawrence that we honor our commitments to Canada.
This is way bigger than the absolute brain-dead moron who wants to cut off Meals on Wheels.
Quote from: mdgiles on March 18, 2017, 08:25:36 AM
So keeping the Great Lakes clean requires the EPA, governmental authority over every backyard pond in the USA - right?
Conflate subjects much there? The five Great Lakes are scarcely backyard ponds.
I will not back down that the Great Lakes MUST be protected by federal authority. The EPA is the arm of that authority (like it or not, court decisions or not). Smaller is better? Sure. But we have treaties and we also have common sense in place.
It's like that gross image of a cute kitten staring down into a toilet bowl. Caption: "You mean they take a lovely bowl of fresh water and they shit in it?"
They will if we don't keep people from crapping in it.
The laws in place prior to the EPA gave the Federal govt the power to regulate under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the Constitution,
known as the 10th Amendment/Commerce Clause.
We don't need a redundant bureaucracy interfering via another overreaching entity writing law it was not charged to do, usurping Congress' power as well as the court's job as a final arbiter.
Quote from: quiller on March 19, 2017, 03:22:33 AM
PAY ATTENTION.
The Great Lakes comprises one-fifth of this entire planet's fresh water supply. It is VITAL that invasive species be kept out. It is vital to international trade along the Ste. Lawrence that we honor our commitments to Canada.
This is way bigger than the absolute brain-dead moron who wants to cut off Meals on Wheels.
I believe you misunderstood my post. I was not commenting on the issue or your position. I was just using this ans an example of why cutting any government program is a challenge.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 19, 2017, 08:52:05 AM
I believe you misunderstood my post. I was not commenting on the issue or your position. I was just using this ans an example of why cutting any government program is a challenge.
Talk about throwing the Trigger Switch! It's also Canada's and every other U.S. state aside from Michigan, all the way out to the Atlantic. But who's counting?
I was trying to recall, today, just how many times I agree with the State of Illinois on absolutely ANYTHING and this is such a case. The invasive species is only one facet. Commerce, particularly affected by the aging Soo Locks controlling traffic, is another hot button for this entire region.
Every U.S. state doing any shipping on the Great Lakes or on the Ste. Lawrence knows how vital this is. Less visible is Coast Guard funding which Trump also proposes to cut to near-oblivion levels. (Say the secret word, "
ONE icebreaker!" and win a brutal slash in operating money!)
Takeaway question, set say 8 years from now. Think hard before answering.
So Trump has built his wall but also has reduced the Coast Guard to prevent people from sailing
around it. How's that going to work out --- besides a lot more use of the term "wetback"?
Quote from: quiller on March 19, 2017, 03:28:40 AM
Conflate subjects much there? The five Great Lakes are scarcely backyard ponds.
I will not back down that the Great Lakes MUST be protected by federal authority. The EPA is the arm of that authority (like it or not, court decisions or not). Smaller is better? Sure. But we have treaties and we also have common sense in place.
It's like that gross image of a cute kitten staring down into a toilet bowl. Caption: "You mean they take a lovely bowl of fresh water and they shit in it?"
They will if we don't keep people from crapping in it.
You don't understand. Why does doing the few necessary actions these agencies perform, require ongoing governmental overreach? And how is pointing out these few necessary actions serve as an excuse for everything else they do?
Quote from: quiller on March 19, 2017, 03:28:40 AM
Conflate subjects much there? The five Great Lakes are scarcely backyard ponds.
I will not back down that the Great Lakes MUST be protected by federal authority. The EPA is the arm of that authority (like it or not, court decisions or not). Smaller is better? Sure. But we have treaties and we also have common sense in place.
It's like that gross image of a cute kitten staring down into a toilet bowl. Caption: "You mean they take a lovely bowl of fresh water and they shit in it?"
They will if we don't keep people from crapping in it.
First point: the comment about backyard ponds refers to the manner in which EPA has consistently and repeatedly overstepped its authority, literally going from protecting major waters such as the Great Lakes, to claiming federal authority over whether people are allowed to harvest rain water on their own properties.
Second point: Granted that federal authority is needed to enforce international treaties - in this particular case you are so up-in-arms about, pertaining to protecting the Great Lakes from various threats, ranging from pollutants to invasive species. Show me where the EPA and ONLY the EPA has the ability to administer said federal authority.
Quote from: mdgiles on March 19, 2017, 07:29:38 PM
You don't understand. Why does doing the few necessary actions these agencies perform, require ongoing governmental overreach?
In the case of Great Lakes protection, I don't see any overreach. The rest of their crap, not so much.
QuoteAnd how is pointing out these few necessary actions serve as an excuse for everything else they do?
Where did I assume that they did, or do, or will? Necessary needs no excuses.
Quote from: zewazir on March 19, 2017, 08:58:07 PM
First point: the comment about backyard ponds refers to the manner in which EPA has consistently and repeatedly overstepped its authority, literally going from protecting major waters such as the Great Lakes, to claiming federal authority over whether people are allowed to harvest rain water on their own properties.
I don't disagree they exceeded their brief. But as you state yourself, it isn't the Great Lakes that were the problem. The EPA exceeded that area, and then some.
QuoteSecond point: Granted that federal authority is needed to enforce international treaties - in this particular case you are so up-in-arms about, pertaining to protecting the Great Lakes from various threats, ranging from pollutants to invasive species. Show me where the EPA and ONLY the EPA has the ability to administer said federal authority.
I'm no lawyer. I also don't argue that the feds are the ultimate authority, whereas you appear to argue that they do not...or should not if it's the EPA.
For what it's worth....
Quote
Washington — Michigan Democratic Sens. Gary Peters and Debbie Stabenow joined with Ohio's Rob Portman, a Republican, to introduce a bipartisan bill this week authorizing research and monitoring in support of binational fisheries within the Great Lakes basin.
The Great Lakes Fishery Research Authorization Act would authorize the U.S. Geological Survey to support the $7 billion Great Lakes sport and commercial fishery industry. It seeks to close a gap in funding authorization between the Great Lakes Science Center, based in Ann Arbor, and those science centers focused on saltwater coasts across the country, according to a bill summary.
The Great Lakes Science Center is currently funded through the U.S. Geological Survey budget with no dedicated funding stream. The legislation would authorize $17.5 million a year in funding for the center for fiscal years 2018 through 2027.
Peters, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Oceans, Atmosphere, Fisheries and Coast Guard, said the bill would create a steady funding stream and give the center the legislative authority to conduct cutting-edge research that will protect native fish populations and target invasive species.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/03/20/bill-seeks-dedicated-aid-ann-arbor-lakes-center/99394256/
Stabenow is mostly MIA and Peters is off on Cloud 9 with the other Dhimmis. But this does set up a separate controlling authority for research....at a whopping price.
Back to the topic of PBS and NPR, more food for thought on proposed budget cuts....
QuoteBut PBS, a subsidiary of the CPB, has been in decline for years, spending more than it has brought in and has claiming "budget cuts" that never happened. As far back as 2013, economist David R. Henderson noted that PBS stations all over the US were failing, and their executives were scrambling, blind to the realities of the new media market, or to the concept of "markets" at all:
"A group of top PBS executives met in Washington last year (2012) to share their woes and try to find solutions. I attended the meeting and can attest that PBS has no shortage of executives, many if not most with backgrounds in community relations and fund-raising, not running television stations in today's highly competitive world."
Meanwhile, public radio and television hosts repeatedly claimed there had been "cuts" in PBS funding. But a quick check on the budget outlays going back to 1999 shows that there were only two years when the overall budget for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting saw even minimal cuts. In 2008, the CPB got just under $7 million less in taxpayer cash than the previous year, and in 2013, the CPB got roughly $22 million less than the previous year. From 1999 to 2016 the CPB budget has increased from $250 million to $445 million annually.
If you owned a production company that got magical manna money each year to the tune of over $400 million, don't you think you might be able to keep it in the black?
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/trumps-proposal-defund-pbs-neh-nea-sees-left-throw-childish-fits
Quote from: quiller on March 20, 2017, 02:28:09 AM
For what it's worth....
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/03/20/bill-seeks-dedicated-aid-ann-arbor-lakes-center/99394256/
Stabenow is mostly MIA and Peters is off on Cloud 9 with the other Dhimmis. But this does set up a separate controlling authority for research....at a whopping price.
"cutting-edge research" = more money.
Everyone owes it to themselves to "take a tour" of a PBS broadcast facility, television or radio, offices, whatever.
Then take a tour of the biggest commercial station in the area, again, television or radio.
If you had a choice, where to work, it'd be the PBS joint, every time - based on the high quality of the MODERN equipment, rather than the "dumps" that pass as commercial broadcast facilities.
One place I strolled into, had a 'live, on-the-air' DJ working from a desk in a cubical... literally walked right up to her, and started asking her a question, before I saw a tiny sign, "Shhh, On-the-Air" sign on the edge of her desk.
By contrast, the PBS station has beautiful sound proof broadcast booths, behind the glass sits the broadcast engineer & call screener - facilities I've -never- seen in a Commercial radio or television station. The ONLY thing that looks decent in a Commercial station -those places is what actually appears "over the air" - the rest looks like a high-school science project gone awry. Even the desks are made of out cheap wafer-board, "unfinished from the back side, stuff".
One place, a television station, I got buzzed in a side door, walked through an area which doubled as trash sorting, boiler room, lockers, etc., basement stuff, and immediately upon walking through a doorway, to my right was the entire evening news "set" with a green screen on the right side (weather area?). As I rounded the corner, I almost tripped over one of the evening news casters who was sitting on the floor, outside the station manager's office. Literally the basement of a converted house.... the news studio! That's a Commercial studio!
Those commercial stations LOVE the old engineers. The new kids out of college have never had to keep that old broadcast crap running, much less ever seen it before.
Unfortunately, WE'VE been PAYING for that wonderful PBS building & broadcast facilities for decades!
Hoofer's remarks about commercial stations is dead on the money. I worked at a place that had 1940s amplifiers, audio board and stand-up RCA turntables with their own pre-amps.
The engineer who could keep it running was a god. A god, I say. :wink:
Quote from: quiller on March 22, 2017, 05:48:28 AM
Hoofer's remarks about commercial stations is dead on the money. I worked at a place that had 1940s amplifiers, audio board and stand-up RCA turntables with their own pre-amps.
The engineer who could keep it running was a god. A god, I say. :wink:
We seriously WANT the
liberals to start PAYING for their own radio and television stations - like NOW. If they really say and mean PBS is essential to American living, then let them put-their-money-where-their-mouth-is.
PBS gets the best-of-the-best-of-everything, and use it to pump socialist crap all over the nation.
A PBS engineer looks like he just stepped out of the "Board Room" - he has a full time job.Commercial engineers cover a dozen stations, part time, travels all over the place, and look like a plumbers, who just crawled out of a manhole... not exaggerating to say that, I know a few.
Stop funding NEA, CPB, NPR, PBS!