I know we moved a few of these threads to the MSM, but the story itself is not a distraction.  This is an unbelievable story, where we know Hussein and his administration are culpable, and possibly the GOP.

Let's attack this story from all angles, not just from a Hillary angle.  We don't want to carry any water for Hussein, Jarrett, and company; they are all guilty, and we need to compile the evidence and connect the dots as it is being discovered.  Solar and I talked about it today, and we just don't want this to be a Clinton story, as this isn't a typical, run-in-the-mill, average, every day Clinton scandal.  This has Hussein's greasy fingerprints all over it as well, among others.

Lots of questions.

EDIT: Solar has some interesting theories that make sense to me.  In the end, it may not be a dangerous deal, and may be a play to minimize their other scandals, so then this one is deflated and the others remain small (Jeffery Epstein, etc).

1: What laws were broken?

2: How dangerous really is this deal?  What is Russia gaining from this?

This morning,  discussion pertained to controlling production, cornering the market, so to speak. This is not like a straight corporate mining transaction. The implications are ominous.
Only thing I might add is my info that the largest uranium deposits are in Australia.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/clinton-conflict-of-interest/?utm

http://www.g-a-i.org/?utm

Quote from: taxed on April 26, 2015, 11:42:38 AM
I know we moved a few of these threads to the MSM, but the story itself is not a distraction.  This is an unbelievable story, where we know Hussein and his administration are culpable, and possibly the GOP.

Let's attack this story from all angles, not just from a Hillary angle.  We don't want to carry any water for Hussein, Jarrett, and company; they are all guilty, and we need to compile the evidence and connect the dots as it is being discovered.  Solar and I talked about it today, and we just don't want this to be a Clinton story, as this isn't a typical, run-in-the-mill, average, every day Clinton scandal.  This has Hussein's greasy fingerprints all over it as well, among others.

Lots of questions.

Some excellent points. Let's look at the MO of this WH (Obama/Jarrett). It is reported, and I believe it, that they play everything close to the vest with short reins. Knowing the history between the Clintons and team Obama one would surmise that a close eye was kept on Hillary. I doubt very much was done without their approval. This includes approving Hillary's personal server situation. She may have been the purveyor of their subversion with the undertsanding her and Bubba could get richer. Quid pro quo?

Quote from: supsalemgr on April 26, 2015, 12:18:09 PM
Some excellent points. Let's look at the MO of this WH (Obama/Jarrett). It is reported, and I believe it, that they play everything close to the vest with short reins. Knowing the history between the Clintons and team Obama one would surmise that a close eye was kept on Hillary. I doubt very much was done without their approval. This includes approving Hillary's personal server situation. She may have been the purveyor of their subversion with the undertsanding her and Bubba could get richer. Quid pro quo?

Exactly.

Quote from: taxed on April 26, 2015, 11:42:38 AM
I know we moved a few of these threads to the MSM, but the story itself is not a distraction.  This is an unbelievable story, where we know Hussein and his administration are culpable, and possibly the GOP.

Let's attack this story from all angles, not just from a Hillary angle.  We don't want to carry any water for Hussein, Jarrett, and company; they are all guilty, and we need to compile the evidence and connect the dots as it is being discovered.  Solar and I talked about it today, and we just don't want this to be a Clinton story, as this isn't a typical, run-in-the-mill, average, every day Clinton scandal.  This has Hussein's greasy fingerprints all over it as well, among others.

Lots of questions.

I agree.  The book is the result of investigtive journalism which isn't often seen anymore.  It's author used to work for Brietbart and was an advisor to Sarah Palin, among other things.  He released the story exclusively to the New York Tomes, the Washington Post and Fox, so leftist MSM sources could not say it was a right wing hit job being promoted by a rightwing newsoutlet (Fox).

Because the left wing MSM are all over this like it was their own story, I understand how it appears they have to have a sinister, ulterior motive.  Could it be this is just too big a story, with too many potential wolrd wide ramnifications that they can't do anything but report it...and this Britebart Journalist was absolutely brilliant by giving the Leftists something they did not dare try to cover up! 

Is it too much to hope for that the same Washington Post that acked "What did the President know and when did he know it" about Nixon, is going to return to their roots and start asking this same question about Obama (and his Blackberry).  It took nearly two years of investigations of Watergate before the Presient, himself was implicated in anything.  Untli that it was a bungled burglary, leading to an unraveling of many other scandals of wrong doings of people other than the President, himself...until evidence implicated...the President himself.  This, along with Benghazi and the IRS scandal and the use of private emails (from cellphones like the Presiden't Blackberry) circumvent both regulations and laws pertaining to how official business of the United States is to be conducted.  Does anyone real believe that the Obama's aren't going to receive a piece of the pie he has allowed the Clinton and the leftist's croanies to create.  I found Bret Baier's report interesting in many ways; not the least of which that Obama's economic advisor, Jeffery Imalt (CEO of GE) is involved...

Quote from: supsalemgr on April 26, 2015, 12:18:09 PM
Some excellent points. Let's look at the MO of this WH (Obama/Jarrett). It is reported, and I believe it, that they play everything close to the vest with short reins. Knowing the history between the Clintons and team Obama one would surmise that a close eye was kept on Hillary. I doubt very much was done without their approval. This includes approving Hillary's personal server situation. She may have been the purveyor of their subversion with the undertsanding her and Bubba could get richer. Quid pro quo?

I suspect that a very large portion of decisions coming out of the  WH are actually of Jarrett's making.  She seems to be the heart and soul of the straw man.  Their unique relationship is unlike any I have ever seen or heard of in the WH. 

Jarrett is said to dine with Obama every evening in the family quarters.  It is likely that most major decisions are made around that dinner table.

Hillary, Michelle, and all other members of the inner circle are given their orders accordingly.

Jarrett wields more power than any other non President in my lifetime.

Lets see who was involved?

The US Committee on Foreign Investment, which includes the attorney general, the secretaries of the Treasury, Defense, Homeland Security, Commerce and Energy, and the secretary of state, were charged with reviewing the deal that would give Rosatom a majority stake because uranium is considered a strategic asset with implications for national security.

Now ask yourself, whom do they all answer directly to?
This has Jarret's and her Marxist buddy, Hussein, stench all over it.

But I'm going to ask another question. Is this really what it appears to be?
Russia is in no way hurting for refined nuclear fuel when one considers an agreement between the two powers.
But they do need to consider future supplies, so investing in future supplies makes complete and total sense.

Quote31 Jul 2011.

Primary supply, from mining, was 43,880 tons of uranium (U) in 2008 (Red Book), 50,772 tons U in 2009 (WNA; up 16%), and 53,663 tU in 2010 (WNA, up 6%). The top three producers in 2010 were Kazakhstan, Canada, and Australia.

In 2008 secondary sources – mainly existing inventories and decommissioned warheads – supplied about 26% of demand. Little information is available for commercial inventories, which are not reported by most countries. On the military side, highly-enriched uranium (HEU) from excess weapons is "down-blended" with depleted uranium to make low-enriched uranium (LEU) suitable for use in a reactor. A large fraction of weapons-derived supply is via a US-Russian agreement that ends in 2013.

In the long run three major factors will determine supply: (1) increasing primary production, (2) possible further decommissioning of weapons, and (3) recycling of spent fuel. All are somewhat uncertain.

Recycling is not currently profitable but, in the longer term, with rising prices, this could change. In particular it should be noted that recycling could, in the longer term, provide a soft ceiling on the price.
Much more.
http://www.clearonmoney.com/dw/doku.php?id=public:uranium_supply

My over all point is this. Is this really a big deal in the bigger scheme of things?
Sure, we could have locked up most of the uranium supplies in the world, but to what end?

Russia still uses it's excess warheads as supply for nuclear plants, it's not as if they need it for more warheads, they still have an ample supply, yet limited when looking decades ahead.
So is this being blown out of proportion for political purposes?
Why didn't the GOP raise questions early on, considering they knew about it long before the public was aware.

A few things are clear though, this is being used by Hussein to destroy an opponent. He also knows there really isn't anything to it, because none of this could have been precipitated without his signature, so he is culpable as well.
BUT, and yes there is a but. He knows it doesn't matter, because there is no evidence that any laws were broken, (see above, he is equally responsible) or he too would be held culpable as well.

There is a common thread, here, that runs through both the Bush in and the Clinton wanna be dynasty. No, I am not talking about greed, here, or, staying around when they really should have taken the money and faded away. I am talking about selling off America for personal gain.

Most of what is tied into globalism and the NWO applies, outsourcing, the immigration scam, and, if we want to go back in search of the  roots of it, we have to include monetization of debt, that is, taking it out of the national wealth by inflating the dollars, and, truth be known, destroying domestic industries, like steel, by excessive union thuggery.  It only works because we have a compliant, complacent, public, willing to sell their soul to the highest bidder. This is to say, the sell out started long before Hillary was born.  She and Barack are just the latest edition.

Maybe they will help reignite America's spirit, in a convoluted kind of way.

Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2015, 01:24:50 PM
Lets see who was involved?

The US Committee on Foreign Investment, which includes the attorney general, the secretaries of the Treasury, Defense, Homeland Security, Commerce and Energy, and the secretary of state, were charged with reviewing the deal that would give Rosatom a majority stake because uranium is considered a strategic asset with implications for national security.

Now ask yourself, whom do they all answer directly to?
This has Jarret's and her Marxist buddy, Hussein, stench all over it.

But I'm going to ask another question. Is this really what it appears to be?
Russia is in no way hurting for refined nuclear fuel when one considers an agreement between the two powers.
But they do need to consider future supplies, so investing in future supplies makes complete and total sense.

My over all point is this. Is this really a big deal in the bigger scheme of things?
Sure, we could have locked up most of the uranium supplies in the world, but to what end?

Russia still uses it's excess warheads as supply for nuclear plants, it's not as if they need it for more warheads, they still have an ample supply, yet limited when looking decades ahead.
So is this being blown out of proportion for political purposes?
Why didn't the GOP raise questions early on, considering they knew about it long before the public was aware.

A few things are clear though, this is being used by Hussein to destroy an opponent. He also knows there really isn't anything to it, because none of this could have been precipitated without his signature, so he is culpable as well.
BUT, and yes there is a but. He knows it doesn't matter, because there is no evidence that any laws were broken, (see above, he is equally responsible) or he too would be held culpable as well.

Remember at the close of the Clinton Administration, when Clinton dispatched Al Gore to China where he unilaterally made a deal to give US missle technology to the Communist Chinese. The quid pro quo in that deal was campaign donations to the Democrat Party (and presumably Al Gores' run for POTUS).

Obama, Vallerie Jarret and the whole rats next are aware of how well this worked and how the MSM let them get away with it.  The Clinton's have been playing this game a very long time and there is no doubt in my mind that their political corruption has now gone into the area of simply, greedy, illegal big business corruption to put multimillions in these people's pocket.  How much you want to bet that Obama (and Jarrett and many others in the Administration) have all gotten in for a piece of their rags to riches scheme.  It's the Chicago Way!

Wartergate was unraveled by "follow the money" and it led ito all kinds of political corruption, stonewalling, perjury, obstruction of justice and eventual criminal proscedution!  One can only hope!

Quote from: kroz on April 26, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
I suspect that a very large portion of decisions coming out of the  WH are actually of Jarrett's making.  She seems to be the heart and soul of the straw man.  Their unique relationship is unlike any I have ever seen or heard of in the WH. 

Jarrett is said to dine with Obama every evening in the family quarters.  It is likely that most major decisions are made around that dinner table.

Hillary, Michelle, and all other members of the inner circle are given their orders accordingly.

Jarrett wields more power than any other non President in my lifetime.

Nailed it!!

Quote from: supsalemgr on April 26, 2015, 02:09:51 PM
Nailed it!!

Valerie Jarrett being born in Iran has no more bearing on any of this, than Barak Hussain Obama having a father who was Muslim and a step father who was Muslim and having grown up and gone to schol in a Muslim county and having written that their is no more beutiful sound than the Islam call to worship..So what they embrace the Muslim Brotherhood and trash our allies!  If you think there is some sort of connection here, you must be a conspiracy theory crackpot....or so we're told!

Alright, here's my theory. Taxed and talked about this, because it was not intended to be a thread about the Klinton's.
Klinton's have done nothing wrong, first off, outside of looking inappropriate in their dealings.

But to listen to the media and the way they lead one to CONCLUDE it's the BIGGEST SCANDAL of the decade, one presumes guilt, Right?
With that said, if you were in her shoes, and had been wrongly accused, how would you react?
Yep, you and I would be out there showing evidence of innocence.
Or, if you were guilty? You'd probably slink away and buy an island, but they've done neither, it's business as usual.
Remember, the natural instinct is "Fight or Flight".

So we, the nation sees Hitlery as untruthful going into 2016, this really hurts her chances, (as if she had any in the first place), but you need to create a new Hitlery to replace the evil bitch she is in real life, right, or forget her ever running.
Now out of the blue, shes tied up in a scandal, a huge one, bigger than anything she has done in the past.
Think, White Water, but did that hinder them in the least, nope, because the average LIV (Low Information Voter) has the conceptual attention span of a flea and the Dims are counting on it.
Remember, these people are huge cash cows for the DNC, and anything Hitlery does, ruins the legacy of their most beloved President in modern times. Can't have that....

So how do you create a new Klinton? You Break the old one, create a victim that was wronged.
So here we are in what appears to end the Klintoon dynasty, except they have done nothing wrong.
If they did, Hussein is equally culpable because he has to sign off on this as well, as I posted earlier.
This would be the end of the regime, but.....

So how do you create a new Klinton? You manufacture a scandal, that isn't a scandal, just a normal lib business deal with the blessing of the POTUS.
Then you beat them up in the press to the breaking point, (picture her in tears, soon), a woman wronged, slowly you reveal the details of this supposed scandal over the next few weeks, then suddenly the NY Times breaks the news, "She is Innocent", you now have a manufactured victim.

But before you reveal the truth, certain steps need to take place first, you create a Koch connection (if possible) to a right wing conspiracy, you show news clips from FOX pundits ripping her as the evil bitch, Rush clips if any.
You also have to prep the victim for when the news breaks. Images like feeding the poor at a homeless shelter or attending to the sick in Africa etc.

Picture Hitlery feeding a sick child when they interview her as the victim, or in this case, the saint now.
Yes, you now have a new Hitlery, one that has been wronged, a scandal that made all others pale in comparison.
And what do you suppose the LIV defense will be when you bring up Benghazi?

If I missed anything Taxed feel free to point it out..

Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2015, 03:15:52 PM
Alright, here's my theory. Taxed and talked about this, because it was not intended to be a thread about the Klinton's.
Klinton's have done nothing wrong, first off, outside of looking inappropriate in their dealings.

But to listen to the media and the way they lead one to CONCLUDE it's the BIGGEST SCANDAL of the decade, one presumes guilt, Right?
With that said, if you were in her shoes, and had been wrongly accused, how would you react?
Yep, you and I would be out there showing evidence of innocence.
Or, if you were guilty? You'd probably slink away and buy an island, but they've done neither, it's business as usual.
Remember, the natural instinct is "Fight or Flight".

So we, the nation sees Hitlery as untruthful going into 2016, this really hurts her chances, (as if she had any in the first place), but you need to create a new Hitlery to replace the evil bitch she is in real life, right, or forget her ever running.
Now out of the blue, shes tied up in a scandal, a huge one, bigger than anything she has done in the past.
Think, White Water, but did that hinder them in the least, nope, because the average LIV (Low Information Voter) has the conceptual attention span of a flea and the Dims are counting on it.
Remember, these people are huge cash cows for the DNC, and anything Hitlery does, ruins the legacy of their most beloved President in modern times. Can't have that....

So how do you create a new Klinton? You Break the old one, create a victim that was wronged.
So here we are in what appears to end the Klintoon dynasty, except they have done nothing wrong.
If they did, Hussein is equally culpable because he has to sign off on this as well, as I posted earlier.
This would be the end of the regime, but.....

So how do you create a new Klinton? You manufacture a scandal, that isn't a scandal, just a normal lib business deal with the blessing of the POTUS.
Then you beat them up in the press to the breaking point, (picture her in tears, soon), a woman wronged, slowly you reveal the details of this supposed scandal over the next few weeks, then suddenly the NY Times breaks the news, "She is Innocent", you now have a manufactured victim.

But before you reveal the truth, certain steps need to take place first, you create a Koch connection (if possible) to a right wing conspiracy, you show news clips from FOX pundits ripping her as the evil bitch, Rush clips if any.
You also have to prep the victim for when the news breaks. Images like feeding the poor at a homeless shelter or attending to the sick in Africa etc.

Picture Hitlery feeding a sick child when they interview her as the victim, or in this case, the saint now.
Yes, you now have a new Hitlery, one that has been wronged, a scandal that made all others pale in comparison.
And what do you suppose the LIV defense will be when you bring up Benghazi?

If I missed anything Taxed feel free to point it out..

I don't buy the theory.  I think it is a credible source and a credible story.  Today on Fox News Sunday, Chis Wallace interviewed the author.  I found it interesting that some of the most damning evidence of quid pro quo (remember, the thing Gov Blago went to prison for) was found by investigation of public Canadian tax records of people who had made large donations to the CLintons. These are donations that were not disclosed by the Clinton Foundation!

When Hilary CLinton was first confirmed as Sec. of State, both the Obama Adminsitration and COngress made it that they would have to disclose all donations to the CLinton Foundation.  They did so, except in those cases that led back to any of these quid pro quo dealings, including the deal with the Russians to sell out our urianium deposits. Putin has 20% of ours and 50% of the world's resources as a result of this deal! How would Hillary know that Putin would screw her and start selling this nuclear material to Iran right at the time of the Nuclear Talks with Iran.  Do you think Putin didn't know what's on her server and the involvedment of our Sec. of State and former President.  Hell, they even have the traitor who gave them state dept. information,,,what do you think this consists of?  If this story blows up (who knows it may even involve this President)...this give the best propaganda that a former KGB agent and chief could ever dream of; the corruption of a US Sec. of State, a former US Presient and perhaps even a sitting US President!

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/edward-snowden-steps-secret-us-russia-spy-scuffle/story?id=19495341


Remember Hillary's reset button, this is the time when the uranium deal began to come together.

I think this story is much larger than her candidacy and it deals not only with illegal pay to play politics and political corruption, but has to do with a major threat to our national security!  I guess we'll see...

Quote from: wally on April 26, 2015, 03:28:04 PM
I don't buy the theory.  I think it is a credible source and a credible story.  Today on Fox News Sunday, Chis Wallace interviewed the author.  I found it interesting that some of the most damning evidence of quid pro quo (remember, the thing Gov Blago went to prison for) was found by investigation of public Canadian tax records of people who had made large donations to the CLintons. These are donations that were not disclosed by the Clinton Foundation!

Which is why they went back and refiled to pay back taxes before the IRS moved on them, so technically no law was broken and impropriety  is not illegal.

QuoteWhen Hilary CLinton was first confirmed as Sec. of State, both the Obama Adminsitration and COngress made it that they would have to disclose all donations to the CLinton Foundation.  They did so, except in those cases that led back to any of these quid pro quo dealings, including the deal with the Russiand to sell out our urianium deposits. Putin has 20% of ours and 50% of the world's resources as a result of this deal!

They belonged to Canada, not the US. Essentially, they go to the highest bidder, that's free mkkt Capitalism. Again, nothing illegal.

QuoteI think this story is much larger than her candidacy and it deals not only with illegal pay to play politics and political corruption, but has to do with a major threat to our national security!  I guess we'll see...

Which is my point, it "appears" to be be bigger than it really is, and that's the plan.

Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2015, 03:42:42 PM
Which is why they went back and refiled to pay back taxes before the IRS moved on them, so technically no law was broken and impropriety  is not illegal.

They belonged to Canada, not the US. Essentially, they go to the highest bidder, that's free mkkt Capitalism. Again, nothing illegal.

Which is my point, it "appears" to be be bigger than it really is, and that's the plan.

I guess we'll see.  I might even rethink my former position about what we ought to do with Snowdon, if the Russians (Putin; the Spy Master) allowed him to give a thumbdrive of NSA records of Hillary's emails, in exchange for immunity!

This story that was never to be told seems to be unravaling because of the Russian deal.  The reset with Putin was suppose to enlist him as a quid pro quo player,  They don't have the same problems with communists and dictators, we do and that makes them vunerable to a Master Spy!