Dems... the Party of "peace", "love", and "talking" have now brought us closer to geoglobal nuclear-chaos than we've been in 50-years.

 

Quote from: kit saginaw on April 26, 2015, 04:39:07 PM
Dems... the Party of "peace", "love", and "talking" have now brought us closer to geoglobal nuclear-chaos than we've been in 50-years.

the reset button was suppose to enlist a partenr who could pay and play, like the Chicago Way.   The Libtards don't believe totalitarian Dictator thugs are so bad.  They just are misunderstood and can be bought just like all thier friends!

Quote from: wally on April 26, 2015, 04:46:28 PM
the reset button was suppose to enlist a partenr who could pay and play, like the Chicago Way.   The Libtards don't believe totalitarian Dictator thugs are so bad.  They just are misunderstood and can be bought just like all thier friends!

I think you are probably right, wally.

I think this is a real scandal that is unraveling.  The problem is that by the time the Primaries begin this could all be forgotten.  It is difficult to keep things on the front burner very long.

Quote from: kroz on April 26, 2015, 04:57:56 PM
I think you are probably right, wally.

I think this is a real scandal that is unraveling.  The problem is that by the time the Primaries begin this could all be forgotten.  It is difficult to keep things on the front burner very long.

That was the point in my theory, get this all out in the open now, prove her innocence and they quickly forget, but walk a way thinking Klinton in innocent.

One thing missing in this discussion is that Russia is by far the biggest suppler of nuclear tech. and supplies to Iran including Uranium! Is any Uranium from US mines reaching Iranian centrifuges? Are we supplying them indirectly with the material to make the bomb were supposedly trying to stop?
If I was Putin I would make sure it was American yellow cake I was supplying. He must be laughing his ass off!

Quote from: redbeard on April 26, 2015, 07:05:49 PM
One thing missing in this discussion is that Russia is by far the biggest suppler of nuclear tech. and supplies to Iran including Uranium! Is any Uranium from US mines reaching Iranian centrifuges? Are we supplying them indirectly with the material to make the bomb were supposedly trying to stop?
If I was Putin I would make sure it was American yellow cake I was supplying. He must be laughing his ass off!

None.

Although most of the uranium used in domestic nuclear power plants is imported, domestic uranium processing facilities still provide sizeable volumes of uranium concentrate to U.S. nuclear power plants. In 2013, uranium concentrate was produced at seven facilities in four states. Wyoming accounted for 59% of domestic production, followed by Utah (22%), Nebraska (15%), and Texas (4%), according to the World Nuclear Association.
Uranium is processed into uranium concentrate either by grinding up ore or by using a liquid mixture to dissolve and separate the uranium, a process known as in-situ leaching. Most plants use in-situ leaching; Utah's uranium mill is the only current exception. The output of the mill and the leach plants is uranium concentrate, known as U3O8 or yellowcake, which is transported to conversion and enrichment facilities for further processing before being fabricated into nuclear fuel.
In 2013, U.S. processing facilities produced 4.7 million pounds of uranium concentrate, a 12% increase from 2012 and equal to about 11% of the uranium used by the nation's 100 operating nuclear power reactors. The rest of the uranium used to fuel reactors came from other nations, including uranium received as part of the joint U.S.-Russian Megatons to Megawatts program, which ended last year.

Uranium has been produced in the western United States since World War II, but in the past 25 years, uranium concentrate has been available at competitive prices on international markets. Last year, 92% of the uranium used in U.S. nuclear power plants was of foreign origin. Several western states have shut down uranium mines as it became more economical to purchase processed uranium from foreign companies.

http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=17831

Quote from: redbeard on April 26, 2015, 07:05:49 PM
One thing missing in this discussion is that Russia is by far the biggest suppler of nuclear tech. and supplies to Iran including Uranium! Is any Uranium from US mines reaching Iranian centrifuges? Are we supplying them indirectly with the material to make the bomb were supposedly trying to stop?
If I was Putin I would make sure it was American yellow cake I was supplying. He must be laughing his ass off!

Putin was a KGB Fild Operative who rose to be the Head of the KGB.  I think people might tend to
to think of his past as something akin to George H.W. Bush becoming a political appointee as CIA Director.  The fact is, this is a ruthless, cunning and no doubt brilliant devious strategist who came up through the ranks of the brutal KGB during the cold war.

If he could feed the flames of the middle east and manipulate it so his country doesn't receive targeting for what the Iranians (or Syrians or any of the other Muscum) do to us, then the more they hurt us, the better for him.  A nuclear weapon handed off to terrorists by the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, woujld not be used against their trading partner.  For instance, if Iran made good on it's threats to nuke Israel, the US would either be drawn into the conflict or demonstate (again) to the world that an alliance with the United States of America means nothing!  Both stong and weak nations would line up knocking on the door of the New Soviet Union!

Quote from: wally on April 27, 2015, 05:02:20 AM
Putin was a KGB Fild Operative who rose to be the Head of the KGB.  I think people might tend to
to think of his past as something akin to George H.W. Bush becoming a political appointee as CIA Director.  The fact is, this is a ruthless, cunning and no doubt brilliant devious strategist who came up through the ranks of the brutal KGB during the cold war.

If he could feed the flames of the middle east and manipulate it so his country doesn't receive targeting for what the Iranians (or Syrians or any of the other Muscum) do to us, then the more they hurt us, the better for him.  A nuclear weapon handed off to terrorists by the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, woujld not be used against their trading partner.  For instance, if Iran made good on it's threats to nuke Israel, the US would either be drawn into the conflict or demonstate (again) to the world that an alliance with the United States of America means nothing!  Both stong and weak nations would line up knocking on the door of the New Soviet Union!

Many have long believed that it is Putin who has been the catalyst for the entire terrorist movement.  This started several decades ago.  Back in the late 80s and early 90s operatives were sent to various third world countries to indoctrinate young men and build anger toward the West..... the U.S. in particular.  It was quite easy to whip up a herd mentality and justify it by portraying their Islamic religion as the "victim" in need of defending.   And it was easy to inspire from the Qu'ran scriptures to support a caliphate movement.

Young unemployed men joined by the thousands.  My neighbor in Jakarta, Indonesia at that time told me about a bus load of foreign muslims she encountered in an outlying township.  One spoke English and she asked him what they were doing.  He told her flatly and matter-of-factly that they were sent to Indonesia to recruit young men for the new Islamic movement.  At the time she had no idea what that meant.  In retrospect it is abundantly clear what that meant.

So, who was funding this early organizational structure?  Many believe Putin was gathering his proxy army against the West.  And it is next to impossible to prove that it was Putin.  Clever does not begin to define this man.


I will add that it was during this period of the 90s that Indonesian changed radically.  When we first moved there in the 80s, the people loved Americans and were very much in awe of the Western nations in general.  They longed to be like America.  They were constantly asking to have their picture taken with western people.... especially blond Americans.  (My family of five are all blonde and blue eyed which they adored.)  During the 90s the change began.  The younger generation especially began to despise the West.  They became increasingly agitated.  Eventually they even spat on my daughters.  Rage was boiling within. They were burning churches throughout the islands.  Then the revolution began.  At first they were targeting Western businesses within Indonesia with bombings or bomb threats.  A year after that began our youngest children went to college in America.   

Eventually they turned against their own government and the government fell in 1998.  After a few days we were evacuated by private charter jet in the middle of the night at a private airport.  It was impossible to get to the international airport....... the revolutionaries were hijacking, robbing and killing people on the one road to the airport.  There were fires all across the city and the military was trying to gain control...... army tanks in the streets.  It is very unnerving to wake up one morning and find a military tank in front of your house!

THAT is how quickly a revolutionary movement can come to fruition.

Obama and his whole Administration are amateurs when it comes to daling with real sinister evil thug Dictators.  Ehile this group of Kumbya Kommunists are all were protesting against America during the Viet Nam war and ever since then, Vladimir Putin was directly or indirectly killing people to further the polical and economic aspirations of the Soviet Union.  I have no doubt that folks like Obama, Vaalerie Jerrett and Hillary Clinton see people like CHe Fuverra, Fidel Castro, Mao Tse Tung, Vladimir Putin and even Hugo Chavez as sort of kidred spirits who share their view of one world communist new world order, to be ruled by a wold wide cetralized goverment...The United Nations! ...Comrade

I'm old enough to remember the ComIntern (Communit Party International) and their coordination of the world wide network of communist nations and 'movements' within nations!  They  didn't go away, they jsut went deeper underground.  Kinda went to hole, when the Soviet Union collapses!

Without delving into the skull cracking complexitiy of another Clinton drama, here is how I see it.

This whole thing is part and parcel of Iran getting a nuke, they are gonna get the Uranium in a trade deal with their big time oil client....Putin.  Oil for Uranium...get a nuke Mullah's and go to town.....In the mean time we'll make a secret deal with Isreal to sell them some anti missle defense system since the US won't.

Obamao (and Jarrett) had this whole 'sanctions' thing planned,,,,this Fishy deal is just part of it.

The Clintanista's are in it for the money.....AND...should the details come out Hillary will twist this whole thing around into some moral high ground that reads something like:

Well I was opposed to Russian Uranium deal and thats why I quit, I tried to dissuade Obamao but couldn't so I walked rather than be a part of it....some crap like that.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 27, 2015, 04:54:38 PM
Without delving into the skull cracking complexitiy of another Clinton drama, here is how I see it.

This whole thing is part and parcel of Iran getting a nuke, they are gonna get the Uranium in a trade deal with their big time oil client....Putin.  Oil for Uranium...get a nuke Mullah's and go to town.....In the mean time we'll make a secret deal with Isreal to sell them some anti missle defense system since the US won't.

Obamao (and Jarrett) had this whole 'sanctions' thing planned,,,,this Fishy deal is just part of it.

The Clintanista's are in it for the money.....AND...should the details come out Hillary will twist this whole thing around into some moral high ground that reads something like:

Well I was opposed to Russian Uranium deal and thats why I quit, I tried to dissuade Obamao but couldn't so I walked rather than be a part of it....some crap like that.

Obama's leading from behind bullshit is a fullfillment of his Marxists Kenyan Daddy's Dream to bring America to it's knees.  The far left Lefties blame all our problems on our forward leaaning leadership on the world stage.  Their Kumbya brand of Marxism is dedicated to the propisition that if we leave them along, they will leave us alone and they will sort things out for themselves,  Like Ron Paul, Obama believes it's none of our business what they do.  The problem is that "they" are coming for us and there is nothing we can say to stop them.  They actually hate the very liberals that are enabling them.  They hate the liberal changes of western culture and are conducting jihad to end those corrupting influences.  How can American or European Liberals accept that they are wrong about why they hate us, they hate us because of the Liberal ideals and what they see as blasphamy of everything from women's rights to the trash Hollowood calls art these days.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 27, 2015, 04:54:38 PM
Without delving into the skull cracking complexitiy of another Clinton drama, here is how I see it.

This whole thing is part and parcel of Iran getting a nuke, they are gonna get the Uranium in a trade deal with their big time oil client....Putin.  Oil for Uranium...get a nuke Mullah's and go to town.....In the mean time we'll make a secret deal with Isreal to sell them some anti missle defense system since the US won't.

Obamao (and Jarrett) had this whole 'sanctions' thing planned,,,,this Fishy deal is just part of it.

The Clintanista's are in it for the money.....AND...should the details come out Hillary will twist this whole thing around into some moral high ground that reads something like:

Well I was opposed to Russian Uranium deal and thats why I quit, I tried to dissuade Obamao but couldn't so I walked rather than be a part of it....some crap like that.

If she tosses Obama under the bus He will crucify her and Bill. How long before Obama unleashes his justice department over this and a thousand other things I'm sure he knows about if she turns on him!
The estimated worth of the Clintons is up to about 200 million! They were supposedly broke when Bill left office. Where did the money come from? Speaking Fees?

Quote from: redbeard on April 27, 2015, 05:11:56 PM
If she tosses Obama under the bus He will crucify her and Bill. How long before Obama unleashes his justice department over this and a thousand other things I'm sure he knows about if she turns on him!
The estimated worth of the Clintons is up to about 200 million! They were supposedly broke when Bill left office. Where did the money come from? Speaking Fees?

No not all.  Most from Chelsea Clinton piggy bank.   

Quote from: redbeard on April 27, 2015, 05:11:56 PM
If she tosses Obama under the bus He will crucify her and Bill. How long before Obama unleashes his justice department over this and a thousand other things I'm sure he knows about if she turns on him!
The estimated worth of the Clintons is up to about 200 million! They were supposedly broke when Bill left office. Where did the money come from? Speaking Fees?

I was about to make the same post.  I agree with you totally!

Quote from: kroz on April 27, 2015, 05:19:20 PM
I was about to make the same post.  I agree with you totally!

I agree with you and Redbead...I will be surprized if this doesn't happen, as a matter of fact.  Obama and his marxists buddies are just getting their ducks in a row for the great purge!  They need a replacement candidate who they can install...let's see, Obama can't run again so who could it be?