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Re: Trump fired another shot at the commies
« Reply #255 on: December 04, 2019, 12:50:26 AM »
And now it looks like Trump is willing to wait until after the election to do a trade deal. That should hit China like a ton of bricks, their best chance at a good deal for them is now gone. So here's a quick question, who is less smart, China or France?

He has been completely mind-fucking China.  "Let's do it... we're almost there...  just a little more....  I'm optimistic....  Xi is a friend of mine... this is happening...  NOPE! Wait until after the election!".

I think France is less smart, because they _can_ make changes.  China has such an uphill climb, and they can't and won't relax on their communist stronghold, and their entire existence is dependent on a central-planned economy that is too dependent on others for goods.  The smart reformers in China who know this is a dead end are ultimately powerless.

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Re: Trump fired another shot at the commies
« Reply #256 on: December 04, 2019, 06:20:52 AM »
He has been completely mind-fucking China.  "Let's do it... we're almost there...  just a little more....  I'm optimistic....  Xi is a friend of mine... this is happening...  NOPE! Wait until after the election!".

I think France is less smart, because they _can_ make changes.  China has such an uphill climb, and they can't and won't relax on their communist stronghold, and their entire existence is dependent on a central-planned economy that is too dependent on others for goods.  The smart reformers in China who know this is a dead end are ultimately powerless.
I'm sooo loving this! The entire world thinks Trump wants a deal, the Chinese keep giving ground, but refuse to give up and agree to abide by a binding agreement backed by law with teeth.
Trump keeps stroking Xi, claiming we're close but more work needs to be done, so the Chinese goo back and give up more and just when it looks like they can come to an agreement, Trump backs Hong Kong Freedoms.
Think of this like a banquet and an exquisite desert in on display in the middle of the table. France is that single fly buzzing over the desert.
Trump just swatted that damn fly.
France came to the table offering absolutely nothing, wanting everything in return. WTF did they expect to happen?
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Re: Trump fired another shot at the commies
« Reply #257 on: December 04, 2019, 01:39:19 PM »
I'm sooo loving this! The entire world thinks Trump wants a deal, the Chinese keep giving ground, but refuse to give up and agree to abide by a binding agreement backed by law with teeth.
Trump keeps stroking Xi, claiming we're close but more work needs to be done, so the Chinese goo back and give up more and just when it looks like they can come to an agreement, Trump backs Hong Kong Freedoms.
Think of this like a banquet and an exquisite desert in on display in the middle of the table. France is that single fly buzzing over the desert.
Trump just swatted that damn fly.
France came to the table offering absolutely nothing, wanting everything in return. WTF did they expect to happen?
Here's a wild ass guess, I don't think Trump wants a deal with china. There are several countries who can take the place of china for supplying cheap labor who would be a lot more honest to deal with. Now the business side of Trump probably would not turn down a great deal if it was in our best interest, but the patriot side of Trump probably would piece meal  any deal just to keep china honest.

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Re: Trump fired another shot at the commies
« Reply #258 on: December 04, 2019, 02:02:43 PM »
Here's a wild ass guess, I don't think Trump wants a deal with china. There are several countries who can take the place of china for supplying cheap labor who would be a lot more honest to deal with. Now the business side of Trump probably would not turn down a great deal if it was in our best interest, but the patriot side of Trump probably would piece meal  any deal just to keep china honest.
Here's how I see it. Trump is a Patriot, he despises communism. Like Reagan, he too wants to crush it. So China hasn't a prayer in Hell of getting any deal, sure, there will be some concessions, but Trump said China has been ripping us off for decades and he will bring an end to it. So China has a Hell of a cliff to climb just to meet Trump halfway.
The other side of the coin is a peaceful India, a billion plus people and burgeoning economy just waiting to take off. Say good bye to China, they will be just a blip in history.
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Re: Trump fired another shot at the commies
« Reply #259 on: December 04, 2019, 02:42:32 PM »
Here's a wild ass guess, I don't think Trump wants a deal with china. There are several countries who can take the place of china for supplying cheap labor who would be a lot more honest to deal with. Now the business side of Trump probably would not turn down a great deal if it was in our best interest, but the patriot side of Trump probably would piece meal  any deal just to keep china honest.

I totally agree!!!!

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Re: Trade War
« Reply #260 on: December 05, 2019, 03:54:47 AM »
Music to our ears...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china/china-maintains-tariffs-must-be-reduced-for-phase-one-trade-deal-with-u-s-idUSKBN1Y90P7

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BEIJING (Reuters) - Tariffs must be cut if China and the United States are to reach an interim agreement on trade, the Chinese commerce ministry said on Thursday, sticking to its stance that some U.S. tariffs must be rolled back for a phase one deal.

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Re: Trade War
« Reply #261 on: December 08, 2019, 03:40:59 PM »
Tariffs are the way to go. I've been saying it for 10 years+

I did sell AKS too soon, they may go up to $3.40

I still has some "portfolio diversification" though

Just waiting on the next real thing to invest in.
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