Quote from: Hoofer on August 18, 2016, 01:58:50 PM
Hillary Clinton is a perfect "0", just like Tim Kaine scores a perfect "0" CR rating.
Donald Trump is a 3, and shows signs of improving - but why wait THIS LONG to turn right?
Gary Johnson is a 6.  He has a good track record of shrinking New

Hillary is -10  There no helping Hillary.

Trump is a -5 Trump is now saying only what he thinks will get him more votes. IF he gets in he will do as he damn well pleases.

Gary Johnson I will give a -1 He does not play games about what he is.

Ted Cruz is my write-in.   He not perfect but then he is a man. 

http://therightscoop.com/beholden-to-no-one-trump-owes-650-million-to-china-and-goldman-sachs/

Quote from: blades on August 20, 2016, 08:59:19 AM
http://therightscoop.com/beholden-to-no-one-trump-owes-650-million-to-china-and-goldman-sachs/

Quote" ...an investigation by The New York Times into the financial maze of Mr. Trump's real estate holdings in the United States reveals that companies he owns have at least $650 million in debt — twice the amount than can be gleaned from public filings he has made as part of his bid for the White House. The Times's inquiry also found that Mr. Trump's fortunes depend deeply on a wide array of financial backers, including one he has cited in attacks during his campaign.

Soooo WHY don't the New York Times investigate Hillary like they do Trump.   

Quote from: walkstall on August 20, 2016, 09:18:09 AM

Soooo WHY don't the New York Times investigate Hillary like they do Trump.   

Hell would freeze over before that happened.

Quote from: blades on August 20, 2016, 08:59:19 AM
http://therightscoop.com/beholden-to-no-one-trump-owes-650-million-to-china-and-goldman-sachs/

That deserves it's own thread...

Too Stupid to win, or too stupid to vote for him!?

Whoever said Trump had no money - deserves our undivided attention, he was w-a-y head of the game.

Quote from: Hoofer on August 23, 2016, 05:19:41 PM
Too Stupid to win, or too stupid to vote for him!?

Whoever said Trump had no money - deserves our undivided attention, he was w-a-y head of the game.

Taxed and Solar has been saying that for a long time.

Quote from: walkstall on August 23, 2016, 05:54:22 PM


Taxed and Solar has been saying that for a long time.

Rich people who EARNED it all, usually don't go around bragging about their wealth.
Poor people are known for reckless spending & pretending to be "royalty". 
Like lottery winners, suddenly rich people seem to be hopelessly broke in record time.

Donald is selling a brand name, "Trump"... with nothing behind it.  Destroy the brand, and he's a nobody.

Quote from: Hoofer on August 23, 2016, 06:55:23 PM
Rich people who EARNED it all, usually don't go around bragging about their wealth.
Poor people are known for reckless spending & pretending to be "royalty". 
Like lottery winners, suddenly rich people seem to be hopelessly broke in record time.

Donald is selling a brand name, "Trump"... with nothing behind it.  Destroy the brand, and he's a nobody.

Here's something most people don't know. Once you have wealth, even more than you can burn, you still think you're not wealthy.
Rich people are far more aware of the tenuous grip they have on their own wealth.
Poor people and people struggling actually can relax more than the wealthy because of the position the wealthy have created.
Everyone wants their money, even those charged with guarding it. It could disappear in a heartbeat, and there is always someone playing on their greed to part them of their money.

Poor are always in pursuit of it, know where their every penny is, and just how far it will stretch.
Those that have monetary wealth worry that it could disappear in a second, whether it's stocks or bad venture, but always live beyond their means as in cars and other toys in debt up to their ears.
It's not till they discover they have enough to cover all bills and no debt left that they settle in and STFU, because they don't want people to know they have money. Those are the smart ones, and you see them everyday wearing jeans and driving an old car.

Scum like Trump live off OPM, so they're always in pursuit of it, they create an image of wealth they really don't have, because that's how they sucker people into investing in their schemes.
Yes, Trump is the worst kind of scam artist. He's the leach to the rich, and a vulture to those wanting more.

Quote from: Solar on August 23, 2016, 08:28:56 PM
Here's something most people don't know. Once you have wealth, even more than you can burn, you still think you're not wealthy.
Rich people are far more aware of the tenuous grip they have on their own wealth.
Poor people and people struggling actually can relax more than the wealthy because of the position the wealthy have created.
Everyone wants their money, even those charged with guarding it. It could disappear in a heartbeat, and there is always someone playing on their greed to part them of their money.

Poor are always in pursuit of it, know where their every penny is, and just how far it will stretch.
Those that have monetary wealth worry that it could disappear in a second, whether it's stocks or bad venture, but always live beyond their means as in cars and other toys in debt up to their ears.
It's not till they discover they have enough to cover all bills and no debt left that they settle in and STFU, because they don't want people to know they have money. Those are the smart ones, and you see them everyday wearing jeans and driving an old car.

Scum like Trump live off OPM, so they're always in pursuit of it, they create an image of wealth they really don't have, because that's how they sucker people into investing in their schemes.
Yes, Trump is the worst kind of scam artist. He's the leach to the rich, and a vulture to those wanting more.

I agree!   As one lady said, "You can't get rich being stupid, unless your a comedian".

Quote from: Hoofer on August 23, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
I agree!   As one lady said, "You can't get rich being stupid, unless your a comedian".

When they die, they also take nothing with them.   

Quote from: Hoofer on August 23, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
I agree!   As one lady said, "You can't get rich being stupid, unless your a comedian".

Great analogy!
It's true, it's just a reflection of life. It's the actors that create illusions and fools that follow them around like ignorant adoring puppy dogs waiting for any command.
Why people get caught up in "Reality TV" moments is beyond me, but Trump tapped into this small group of Pavlov Dogs waiting for the next whistle call.
How did people get so damned stupid? With millennia behind us, teaching every generation from the failures of those before them, one would think by this time we would have perfected society, instead we have complete blocks of society Hell bent on repeating the very atrocities of our past by promoting fascist behavior as a tool of vengeance.
They actually believe a Liberal has their best intentions in mind....

Simply put:

Donald Trump thinks he's very, very smart, a brilliant businessman who attracts the best talent to work with him.

I think it's just the opposite.

He has backtracked on practically every campaign promise, maybe he thinks he's smarter than the rest of us.
I don't know WHY a bank or investment firm would trust him to loan a nickle his way, given the repeated financial problems he's had and his "love of debt".
The talent he seems to attract looks pretty shady to me!

I think he's too stupid to learn from the simplest mistakes.

Quote from: Hoofer on August 24, 2016, 09:02:02 AM
Simply put:

Donald Trump thinks he's very, very smart, a brilliant businessman who attracts the best talent to work with him.

I think it's just the opposite.

So do many, which is why no one wants to be part of his ticket. Pence either held serious debt to someone and is paying it off, or just stupid.

QuoteHe has backtracked on practically every campaign promise, maybe he thinks he's smarter than the rest of us.
I don't know WHY a bank or investment firm would trust him to loan a nickle his way, given the repeated financial problems he's had and his "love of debt".
The talent he seems to attract looks pretty shady to me!

I think he's too stupid to learn from the simplest mistakes.

This is why I believe he accepted the Clinton deal to run for office, no one would loan to him anymore.
Aside from being leveraged to the hilt, the banks have had enough of his bankruptcy threats. Not to mention everything with Trump's name on it probably has a shitload of leans against it already, so accepting dirty paper as collateral, is the epitome of insanity.
I honestly believe his days were numbered as to how much longer he could put off the creditors and keep all the toys with Trump's name on it..

Quote from: Solar on August 24, 2016, 11:55:24 AM
I honestly believe his days were numbered as to how much longer he could put off the creditors and keep all the toys with Trump's name on it..

Too Big To Fail... I think that was coined during one of those bankruptcies.

'Either you Mr. Banker renegotiate the terms of this loan, or I'm going chapter 7 and you'll get pennies on the dollar!'

The guy sure knows how to use DEBT as leverage - hope we don't have that mentality speading.