Quote from: Hoofer on August 24, 2016, 07:13:09 PM
Too Big To Fail... I think that was coined during one of those bankruptcies.

'Either you Mr. Banker renegotiate the terms of this loan, or I'm going chapter 7 and you'll get pennies on the dollar!'

The guy sure knows how to use DEBT as leverage - hope we don't have that mentality speading.

Case in point... Yes, they walk among us...

Quote from: je_freedom on August 20, 2016, 06:51:15 PM
I'd like to suggest that Trump's four bankruptcies
are a strength, not a weakness.

Compare that to the Democrats' behavior:
When one of Trump's enterprises becomes a loser,
he shuts it down.
When any of the Democrats' programs becomes a loser,
they INCREASE the spending on it!

Like the "war on poverty" - several trillion dollars later,
we have at least as much poverty as we ever had!
You might have seen the bumper sticker:
"I fight poverty at work."
The Democrats "fight poverty" by paying people to NOT work!
It's obvious which strategy is successful!

Bankruptcy laws are there for a reason.
Trump uses them appropriately.
The Bank of China and Goldman Sachs know full well that
if Trump's project fails, THEY will be left holding the bag!
Trump has more power over them than they do over him!

I'll never shed a tear over a BANK losing money!
Especially a giant monster mega-bank!
The whole monetary system is a fraud to begin with!

It's the bank's responsibility to examine the projects they finance.
If they make a bad investment, it's THEIR fault!

Quote from: Solar on August 25, 2016, 05:42:44 AM
Case in point... Yes, they walk among us...

I make a point of avoiding Vengeful people.

I don't want to be close to them when they erupt, nor when someone else decides, "they've had enough of their crap!"

Neither Trump nor Hillary has a positive message...  Hard to think of any candidate besides Marco Rubio who came across with a positive message... unfortunately, we weren't sure if it was for Illegal Aliens or Americans.

Quote from: Hoofer on August 26, 2016, 06:31:13 PM
I make a point of avoiding Vengeful people.

I don't want to be close to them when they erupt, nor when someone else decides, "they've had enough of their crap!"

Neither Trump nor Hillary has a positive message...  Hard to think of any candidate besides Marco Rubio who came across with a positive message... unfortunately, we weren't sure if it was for Illegal Aliens or Americans.


I am sure it was for the ILLEGAL ALIENS that live on this planet Earth, outside the U.S. of A.

Speaking of Aliens...

Could you imagine ET landing in some corn field, saying, "we come in peace!"

Hillary & Donald would be fighting each other for their votes.

Quote from: Hoofer on August 27, 2016, 05:40:36 AM
Speaking of Aliens...

Could you imagine ET landing in some corn field, saying, "we come in peace!"

Hillary & Donald would be fighting each other for their votes.

I can imagine a farmer with a shotgun...and twenty minutes later, calling a press agent.

Quote from: quiller on August 28, 2016, 04:06:45 AM
I can imagine a farmer with a shotgun...and twenty minutes later, calling a press agent.

Yeah.... that's me & wifey, I'd guard the Ducks & Quail & she'd be guarding the piggies...

'Don't even LOOK at those birds & bacon, pal....  we got a tractor with a back hoe, you can join the other varmints and we'll sell that hunk of metal you flew in on to the recyclers!'   

Quote from: Hoofer on August 27, 2016, 05:40:36 AM
Speaking of Aliens...

Could you imagine ET landing in some corn field, saying, "we come in peace!"

Hillary & Donald would be fighting each other for their votes.

I can imagine a mothership tuning in our TV signals and watching both campaigns for a minute.

They call back to their home planet and report: "There's no intellegent life here."

And move on to the next planet.

At some point, the average American has probably wondered, "WHO is running the Trump campaign?" -or- "Who really wants him to be President?".

I think the kids are largely running the campaign, because he's been sounding like a Democrat up until a couple of days ago, now he's just appealing to the Trump-a-loons, ignoring Conservatives as usual.

Probably the kids want the White House more than Donald does.  Case-in-point, the emails in my in-box - and I have never contributed to Trump.

QuoteYou are our only hope of stopping Hillary Clinton's Wall Street money machine.

Last month Hillary and her donors outraised us by nearly $1O million.

We can't let that happen again. Which is why I'm setting an end-of-month goal of $1O million that we must hit before the urgent FEC deadline on August 31 at 11:59 PM.

And to get us started, I'm writing a $1 MILLION MATCHING CHECK of my own personal money.

xxxxxxxxxxx, now will you contribute whatever you can to meet this massive goal?

IF, and I mean IF Donald really wanted the WH, he'd be draining his bank account, leveraging his holdings "for the cause" - instead of sending me these kinds of emails.  I consider the Bible parable, "the Pearl of Great Price", once discovered, the individual sold all he had to aquire the property where pearl was   found.   Many times, Rush and others have commented, if a candidate doesn't have that, "fire in the belly", they'll go nowhere.   About all I can attribute Donald's hapless campaign ... let's call it "Damage Control of the Trump Brand Name".

He sounds like he'd like to lose... but by a close margin, instead of a complete blow-out.
"Boy I tried hard, but Hillary, she cheated, and barely squeaked across the finish line - had it been a FAIR election, you know I would have won it!  It's typical insider corruption, I tell you, they cheated!"

Don't forget the conversation Donald, Bill & Hillary had before he announced...  boy, if that doesn't look suspicious.  Back to the email for a moment...

Donald's message from beginning was he was worth billions of dollars, and anyone who begged for campaign money was beholden to the contributer(s).  Donald was NOT going to be a slave to anyone, no special interest groups, he would be his own man - which is quite appealing!

What I remember from the beginning, phrased my own way:

a.  Donald was massively rich, and did not need donations, was not asking for donations and would "Fund his own campaign".
b.  Donald would build a Mexico wall, and Mexico would pay for it, none of it would come from the US taxpayer.
c.  Donald would restore respect for America in the world.
d.  Donald would put tariffs / taxes on imports from China for "screwing us" by manipulating their currency.

There are other things, but these 4... were the heart 'n soul of the campaign.  At no point, from the beginning until now, should he have even wavered a tiny bit on these 4 - without them, Donald was just a rich man with no plan.   Yeah, the whole campaign is THAT SHALLOW, based on a few "things" instead of an ideology (like Constitutional Conservationism, ie., Ted Cruz).  If we're honest, we still do not know where Trump is on ANY issue.  Same for Abortion / Planned Parenthood.

Why can't I include deporting illegal aliens?   He's never taken ONE position and stuck with it for more than a week or two - I really don't know where he is on illegal aliens...!  Sounds like infighting among his kids, the old-fart-Donald is trying to cover all the differing positions and making a political mess of it.  YES, I think Donald's kids have been steering the campaign, rather haphazardly, he just gets off on all the attention of campaigning.

Same for who wants Donald to be President - it's the kids.  The most powerful position is not "The Top" but the one of "influence" of the Leader, which is the kids.  Not saying that's a BAD thing, just suggesting the kids REALLY, REALLY want "Dad" there, 'cause they can't get there without "him".  Maybe someday they might aspire to President, but Dad must first "open the door" - which gives the kids all the media coverage they could only dream of...

I honestly don't believe Donald wants the top slot, and he's hinted that way.  Problem is:  Too many people were taken in by his rhetoric and have invested their careers on Donald...  maybe Donald has a bigger problem, 'how to look like you're making an effort and not win against a push-over candidate, Hillary Clinton'.

The debates will be telling.... now, won't they?   

Quote from: Hoofer on September 02, 2016, 06:00:03 AM
At some point, the average American has probably wondered, "WHO is running the Trump campaign?" -or- "Who really wants him to be President?".

The debates will be telling.... now, won't they?   

Hmm...  Who will the MSM back now at the debates?  Trump or Hillary, both are democrats and were back by the MSM.   

Quote from: walkstall on September 02, 2016, 06:20:25 AM
Hmm...  Who will the MSM back now at the debates?  Trump or Hillary, both are democrats and were back by the MSM.

Dang!  There are so many possibilities & pitfalls to these debates - it deserves a new thread, "What do you EXPECT to happen" and "What would you LIKE to happen" - sort of a Mad Magazine theme, "Scenes we'd like to see...!"

Realized this while driving today, if Hillary passed out, collapsed into a heap, during the middle of the debate - Trump could win this thing easily.  Actually, I'd like to see that - just for the optics... might replay it 5000 times, even invite friends over for a "Hillary passout party".

What if Trump got flustered, threw up his arms, "This is NOT fair, I'm outta here, you guys cheated again!" - would that cost him votes, or gain him votes?  Actually, I'd like to hear Trump say, "You know, I've learned something, Ted was right.  He was so darn right, and I was so darn wrong... sheese... Ted I'm really sorry, man... you need to be up here, debating this witch, not me...."

Donald doesn't need a teleprompter to make a fool out of himself, but Hillary, with her bad memory is going to set a record for "ahem", "ahas", etc.   I'd love to have the camera pan the crowd catch someone holding up Cue Cards for Hillary.

Donald has been pretty civil to Hillary, really, he's been easier on her than the other candidates.  I'd love to see something like the Saturday Night Love sketch between Dan Ackeroid and Jane Curtain - yep, you guessed it, Donald turns to Hillary, "Hillary, you ignorant bitch!...."

Donald joked about killing someone on 5th Ave, and his poll numbers going up.  So while the camera-man is fixated on Hillary explaining the wonders of Higher Taxes and Socialism, yep, you probably guessed, there is a loud >bang< and Hillary collapses to the floor in a cork-screw like fashion - the camera pans back to a 'smiling-ear-to-ear-grinning Donald', who exclaims to the audience, "Let's take a vote - All those who favor that, say aye!"

An hour or so into the debate, Hillary decides to "take off the gloves" and unloads on a stunned Donald Trump.
What I'd like to see, is Melina Trump rush the stage an attempt to beat the snot out of Hillary, MMA style...
Yeah, that's what I'd like to see, a good ole fashion, Cat-fight on live television...hair pulling, shreeking, maybe some of the moderators would jump in to defend Hillary - make it a bench clearing brawl on live TV!  Donald exclaims, "You wanted RATINGS - I got you ratings!  Go fer the eyes, Melina!"

Yes, scenes we'd like to see in a Presidential debate.

If you heard Trump droning on and on, 'it's for the families' as the excuse to expand government - maybe you had this thought in common with Wifey and I.

"Who's paying for all this!?"

Donald Trump talking really slow (or was that Laura Ingraham's program building up dump button time?).
Explaining it was was Ivanka's idea, meanwhile, Ivanka is trying to say it's Donald's idea and 95% of the media says "It's a GOOD idea!" to further bankrupt America.

Coming from the former Democrat Party, flipping the "D" to an "R", Donald proposes his daughter's signature massive government program, 6 paid weeks of time off for new mothers. 
NO... it's not up to businesses to offer benefits as a "perk" - YOU WILL PAY for 6 weeks of maternity leave!

Then like it's chump-change, a 50% matching into a healthcare savings account - provided by YOU, the tax payer, up to $500.   Don't watch the hands - they take $500 out of your pocket, wave it around like it's free money, and give it to your neighbor.  I guess you're suppose to think, Meh, what's $500 bucks among friends?  An evening out in a Trump hotel resturant - sure, Donald, we all got an extra $500 just laying around!   Through out the whole announcement, absolutely nothing was stated about the ballooning national debt, fiscal responsibility or the real damage our childrens will suffer through these santa clause give-away programs.

Donald Trump still thinks like a Democrat, and digs deep to find a "signature program"...?   OK, it wasn't his, it was Ivanka's.   Keep that in mind, his children, Democrat children, are setting policy, Donald's part in the campaign is playing the "insult machine".   Next on deck is the boys, maybe one of them will propose CUTTING government programs instead of creating more and more debt - don't count on it, when did a Democrat cut spending other than Military & VET benefits?   

That's what we can expect from a "successful businessman" as Hannity and every Trump-a-loon likes to cite as a qualification.
Expect your taxes to go UP.
Donald Trump & Daughter know HOW to run YOUR business, better than you ever could!   You should be thankful!   
This is not a new "regulation" it's a "benefit" for every hard working Illegal Alien delivering an Anchor Baby, a six week paid holiday anywhere in the USA!  Free Child care to follow!

As Rudy Giuliani suggested, 'Meh, give a couple of conservative speeches and you'll get all them back'.
Check off that box, even Mark Levin said he was voting Trump - not endorsing, just voting.  Painful as that was, Levin has gone to great lengths to explain his reasoning, which I don't agree with, but at least he's being honest, and has reservations about Donald Trump.

I heard almost 1/3rd of the voters polled, think Hillary won't make it 4 years...  Stop cheering, Tim Kaine is licking his chops, he's a sneaky sob.
If Hillary did kick-the-bucket, there's plenty of "strings" attached to her by foreign sources, possibly Soros, to keep her "animated' through another term.

So, we keep wondering and asking, "Why hasn't this powerhouse, Donald Trump put this hold hag away?  This election has got EASY written all over it, what's wrong with this guy?  Doesn't Donald want to win this thing?"    Just in the last couple of weeks, thanks to Rudy, Donald starts gaining ground - and then like clockwork, he turns hard left, with another Democrat "It's for the children" plan - possibly right out of the Clinton playbook...

Ah HA!!   There's been alot of speculation over that secret meeting between Bill, Donald & Hillary...  Speculate no more!

Hillary says, "Donald, you've been a good donor for a long time, for the sake of the Democrat party, here's all the policies we're planning on enacting, you can do your part, and push them too!"

Stuff we useto joke about, -is- political reality.  Here's a humorous description of it...

http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/09/17/accurate-analysis-trump-ever/

Jane Goodall might have been serious ... and considering the lack of sound policy from the Tump camp - and Clinton... yeah, I can imagine a debate - a bunch of Chimps throwing "stuff" at each other, shreeking and making faces, jumping up and down.

...and the political parties want us to take them seriously'...?