Today Is McCON-nels Judgment Day

Started by Solar, December 12, 2017, 06:00:53 AM

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Quote from: MichaelJ on December 13, 2017, 04:16:26 AM
A one vote margin in the Senate virtually guarantees a likely hard stop to most legislative goals of Donald Trump in the Senate. With people like Flake, Murkowski, McCain, Collins, Corker, Graham et al, a single vote lost will result in a tie where Pence has to make a decision and if two turncoats  switch would doom the legislation and any SCOTUS nominees (as well as federal judgeships) because Dems are socialists and will vote as a unit. Disastrous day for the Trump agenda and for Republican independent thinkers but a great one for the Dems and party establishment run by Mitch McConnell. We are headed down a dangerous road folks and will be a disaster if (I think it likely now) the Dems win the House and possibly even the Senate in 2018. Jones will not be seated until Jan 26th so they have very little time to get anything enacted, perhaps for years to come
You made the point I was getting at in another post, that McCON wanted to stop Trump's agenda in the worst way and stop taking the heat for stalling the Wall, that he helped give Alabama to the left.
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Quote from: lazarus on December 12, 2017, 08:47:08 PM
Alright, buckle up... 

As always the MSM only gives you the 30 sound bite that supports the dumbing down of America and in the case of this race, not even our Conservative icons bothered to do the slightest bit of objective analysis...

And my disclaimer: I DID in fact vote for the Republican candidate, flawed as he was, and I'm displeased that we lost that seat...  Now for the facts...
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And yes, Doug Jones will vote with the Dems - The idea that Schumer will instruct him to vote with the Pubs isn't realistic...  And when his term expires, I suspect he will be replaced by a new Conservative Pub - If in fact the Republican party hasn't disintegrated by then...
I wish you'd laid out some of the Alabama political landscape for us 2 weeks ago.   Sounds like good ole southern politics.  Good read though.
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Quote from: MichaelJ on December 13, 2017, 04:16:26 AM
A one vote margin in the Senate virtually guarantees a likely hard stop to most legislative goals of Donald Trump in the Senate. With people like Flake, Murkowski, McCain, Collins, Corker, Graham et al, a single vote lost will result in a tie where Pence has to make a decision and if two turncoats  switch would doom the legislation and any SCOTUS nominees (as well as federal judgeships) because Dems are socialists and will vote as a unit. Disastrous day for the Trump agenda and for Republican independent thinkers but a great one for the Dems and party establishment run by Mitch McConnell. We are headed down a dangerous road folks and will be a disaster if (I think it likely now) the Dems win the House and possibly even the Senate in 2018. Jones will not be seated until Jan 26th so they have very little time to get anything enacted, perhaps for years to come

Thats why i said there is  nothing"best" about losing this seat.

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Its really sad how stupid the AL voters are. They elected someone that will represent california, not Alabama. I give dem voters more credit. If Al Franken had said he would run for re-election and let the  MN voters decide his fate no way  in hell would they have voted for a  conservative over him.

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I'm pretty optimistic.

1 - It's a short term for him -- not the full 6 years.  We'll snatch it right back.

2 - This was one loss.  It happens, and we're still advancing.  It's like the stock market... it's the overall trend that's important.

3 - The sex scandals are flipping up a lot of seats, so 2018 is a scramble anyway.

4 - More light has been shined on McConnel and the other RINOs who broke for Jones.

5 - This should get some conservatives' attention in 2018 who might get complacent.

6 - There's too much good stuff happening behind the scenes, like cleaning house in the intel agencies.

7 - The President can still keep slashing EPA regs.

...more as I think of them..
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Yeah, it's a big "meh".

Annoying, disappointing, doesn't change our trajectory.  Let the AL voters suffer for their foolishness and decide whether it was worth it to worry about Allred's liars, and let the DNC own half of their politics.  My guess is that after listening to Jones for 2 years, they'll rue the day that they let "feelings" give away half of their state's autonomy to abortionists, LGBT warriors, and illegals.

Of course there was also that 4-5 million from demlib coffers, maybe that'll be a tough cost for them.

Hopefully Trump has a Plan B that uses Moore somewhere else, and cuts Sessions loose to start his next AL campaign.  Moore as interim / acting AG, lol.

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Quote from: taxed on December 13, 2017, 06:14:14 AM
I'm pretty optimistic.

1 - It's a short term for him -- not the full 6 years.  We'll snatch it right back.

2 - This was one loss.  It happens, and we're still advancing.  It's like the stock market... it's the overall trend that's important.

3 - The sex scandals are flipping up a lot of seats, so 2018 is a scramble anyway.

4 - More light has been shined on McConnel and the other RINOs who broke for Jones.

5 - This should get some conservatives' attention in 2018 who might get complacent.

6 - There's too much good stuff happening behind the scenes, like cleaning house in the intel agencies.

7 - The President can still keep slashing EPA regs.

...more as I think of them..
Me too. I think it was the shock of losing, what should have been a sure win.
There is a HUGE upside to all of this, McCON getting giddy over the Dims win. This is not sitting well with the base and is certain to have severe ramifications even before 2018 midterms.
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Quote from: taxed on December 13, 2017, 06:14:14 AM
I'm pretty optimistic.

1 - It's a short term for him -- not the full 6 years.  We'll snatch it right back.

2 - This was one loss.  It happens, and we're still advancing.  It's like the stock market... it's the overall trend that's important.

3 - The sex scandals are flipping up a lot of seats, so 2018 is a scramble anyway.

4 - More light has been shined on McConnel and the other RINOs who broke for Jones.

5 - This should get some conservatives' attention in 2018 who might get complacent.

6 - There's too much good stuff happening behind the scenes, like cleaning house in the intel agencies.

7 - The President can still keep slashing EPA regs.

...more as I think of them..

While it remains to be seen how MUCH can be made of a single vote majority, I still love the fact that it cost Democrat supporters, 50-60 million to win a seat for a meger 2 years....LOLOLOL  and they're already financially hurting to boot!  One might say, "They spend money like Democrats!"
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Quote from: Hoofer on December 13, 2017, 01:50:15 PM
While it remains to be seen how MUCH can be made of a single vote majority, I still love the fact that it cost Democrat supporters, 50-60 million to win a seat for a meger 2 years....LOLOLOL  and they're already financially hurting to boot!  One might say, "They spend money like Democrats!"
On one hand it is still a majority. On the other hand, it ain't like they were getting anything done.

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Quote from: s3779m on December 13, 2017, 02:20:09 PM
On one hand it is still a majority. On the other hand, it ain't like they were getting anything done.

Pretty darn hard for McConnell to claim credit for the booming economy, lessing regulations and low unemployment - he & Paul Ryan hasn't done anything to warrant a second of praise, that comes to mind.

It's been all President Trump.   Other than 1 Supreme Court appointment, and some Judges .... that old rooster has nothing to crow about!
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I still suspect massive cheating....Dems colluding with RINO's is never a good thing.
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Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 13, 2017, 03:48:00 PM
I still suspect massive cheating....Dems colluding with RINO's is never a good thing.
You have no idea, just how prophetic that statement is.
Keep watching, shit is about to hit the fan.
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Evidence of Voter Fraud in Alabama As Mobile County Results Come In Late
December 13, 2017

Judge Roy Moore is calling for all the votes to be counted in the Alabama Senate election, refusing to concede the race to Doug Jones even as the mainstream media declares a premature victory.

Moore is down 1.7 points and only needs to come within a half-point to spark a statewide recount. Absentee ballots from military service members have still not been counted. Mobile County, a heavily pro-Jones county, tabulated its votes later than the pro-Moore counties, and eventually gave Jones the lead.

The Alabama Supreme Court shot down a lower court ruling Tuesday requiring counties to preserve their digital voting records. Thus, the Supreme Court is allowing counties to destroy their voter records. The Moore legal team will need to jump on this development fast to protect those records.

Evidence of voter fraud exists in the election.

Democratic activists made a last-minute push to get out the vote against Roy Moore in Alabama by encouraging "African-Americans in Mississippi" to vote in the wrong state.

Sources on the ground in Alabama confirm that these tactics are real, and they have been used by supporters of Democrat Doug Jones.

Big League Politics received evidence of a Reddit call for "African-Americans in Mississippi" to "make a short trip to Alabama on December 12." That Reddit thread is still active.

Similar calls have been made on Reddit for African-Americans in other nearby states, including Georgia and Tennessee.





Voters were forced to fill out provisional ballots in Madison County due to technical problems at the polls, and many of those voters were told that their votes might not count.

Democrat Doug Jones won Madison County with 65,664 votes to Moore's 46,313, with 3,446 write ins. Jones' nearly 20,000-vote margin of victory in Madison County alone accounts for nearly all of his 1.7-point lead statewide (absentee ballots still need to be counted).

President Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton in Madison County, with 89,520 votes to Clinton's 62,822 votes.

Big League Politics has received a firsthand report from Madison County of technical problems at the polls that caused many voters to fill out provisional ballots that have not yet been counted, and might never be counted.

Provisional votes will not be counted until next Tuesday.

Here is the voter's statement:

"There was Huge problems in Jefferson County. Moore should ask for a recount. No way Jones won 85% of the vote in Jefferson. In Huntsville voters had to vote on provisional ballots and were TOLD the votes may not be counted"...

"My friend said that her polling place in South Huntsville was a disaster. She said they were having equipment issues and everyone voted provisional ballot. They were asked for their phone # and would be called to let them know if their vote was counted"...
There was also a concerted effort underway to register felons to vote in the Alabama special election.

https://bluntforcetruth.com/evidence-of-voter-fraud-in-alabama-as-mobile-county-results-come-in-late/
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