Today Is McCON-nels Judgment Day

Started by Solar, December 12, 2017, 06:00:53 AM

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Alabaman's go to the polls today to pick their leadership.
In a normal race, the divide would fall along party lines, this one, however, is about leftist power across the board.
People won't be necessarily voting for a Pub or a liberal, but who controls the state ideology.
If The Dim were to win, the gop'Establishment wins because it has more in common with the left than it does with the values of the American constituency.
Of course, on the obverse, if Moore wins, it sends a referendum to McCon's leftist leadership, that Alabama wants no part of his anti-American agenda.

So ask yourself when considering Moore or the Establishments choice in a Dim opponent, which side shows Principle?
Here's a brief description of the word Principle.

Point is, this election isn't about party, it's about principle:

A basic generalization that is accepted as true and that can be used as a basis for reasoning or conduct.
Rule or standard especially of good behavior.
Basic truth, law or assumption.
A rule concerning natural law or the function of a complex system.
Rule of personal conduct.
Critical thought, (law) the fundamental reasons or logic behind something; the justification for something.
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So who do you think will win in this race between a Conservative and the entire Leftist Establishment?
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Quote from: Solar on December 12, 2017, 07:41:00 AM
So who do you think will win in this race between a Conservative and the entire Leftist Establishment?

I am thinking Moore in a close vote. Many on the left will just not go to the polls.
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 12, 2017, 08:17:23 AM
I am thinking Moore in a close vote. Many on the left will just not go to the polls.
Considering midterm lib turnout, and this being a special election in a solidly Red State, I don't see all that much of a protest vote.
Granted, fraud and felons voting, that is. :biggrin:
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with absolutely nothing to go on, no insiders, no polling - just a gut feeling.

Moore wins easily.   I hope people are totally turned off by the huge influx of out-of-state-money and as a protest, "I'll show those Californian & SOROS SOBS ...", pull the lever for Moore.

Reality.... who the heck knows.   I just want to see someone who outspends Moore by 14:1 lose everything, that would be sweet!
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Solar

If you ignore FOX, an arm of the Establishment and Wapo, an arm of the DNC, Moore nails the election, and that's from notably leftist media polling.

https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2017/senate/al/alabama_senate_special_election_moore_vs_jones-6271.html
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Here's 2008 returns, before TEA.

Republican   Jeff Sessions (Incumbent)   1,305,383   63.36%
Democratic   Vivian Figures                   752,391   36.52%

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I wish I was as confident as some of you. Turnout is reportedly heavy during the morning voting and that does not bode well for Moore IMO

Solar

Quote from: MichaelJ on December 12, 2017, 01:40:16 PM
I wish I was as confident as some of you. Turnout is reportedly heavy during the morning voting and that does not bode well for Moore IMO
Here ya go.


How Alabama voted in the 2016 election

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I also think that Moore will win but i'm not sure about the percentage. The state is just too red for these (as of yet) unproved allegations to cause vast amounts of Alabama voters to turn to the leftist candidate. I also think that some of these accusers have jumped on the wagon hoping for their 15 minutes of fame in the spotlight. It's the same with the victim brigade accusing Trump.

Possum

Jones has nothing in common with the people of Alabama, why would they vote for him? If he wins, it will be because the conservatives stayed away, not because they chose Jones.

Hoofer

One thing we can be SURE of.  Not a single person will follow up and file any charges AFTER the election.   Which says what it's all about.

I'm gonna guess,

Moore 45%
Jones 40%
Write in 15%

based on nothing at all...
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Solar

Quote from: s3779m on December 12, 2017, 03:17:08 PM
Jones has nothing in common with the people of Alabama, why would they vote for him? If he wins, it will be because the conservatives stayed away, not because they chose Jones.
Exactly. Lates polling I saw on undecided Conservatives was a mere 9%, but what other option do they have?

To give everyone an idea of what we can expect in an outcome? look at the final outcome between Moore, Strange, and Doug and the rest of the field.

Assuming the turn out is even close to the same number of voters back in August, split along party lines. Moore nails it.

Pub total 386782

Dim total 149425

Roy Moore   164,524   38.9%    Luther Strange* 138,971   32.8   Mo Brooks        83,287      19.7 Trip Pittman 29,124   6.9   

Doug Jones 109,105   66.1%    Robert Kennedy  29,215   17.7   Michael Hansen 11,105   6.7   Will Boyd     8,010   4.9   

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Quote from: Hoofer on December 12, 2017, 03:33:58 PM
One thing we can be SURE of.  Not a single person will follow up and file any charges AFTER the election.   Which says what it's all about.

I'm gonna guess,

Moore 45%
Jones 40%
Write in 15%

based on nothing at all...



LOL that is a good as a poll vote. 
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