Russian funding of U.S. environmental groups; Quid pro Quo to block US Fracking

Started by wally, March 17, 2018, 01:18:57 PM

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wally

OK, what's the story?

As Kevin Mooney reported in two exclusives (posted here and here), there indeed appears to be some serious Russian meddling going on. It's not, however, the meddling being pushed by the party line at CNN and MSNBC. This meddling would be Russian funding of U.S. environmental groups, which, in turn, used those Russian resources to work against fracking in the United States and the Keystone pipeline.

"While allegations of the Donald Trump campaign colluding with Russians to alter the presidential election outcome remain unproven at best," Mooney wrote, "a clear money trail and U.S. intelligence reports demonstrate Russia's active campaign of funding U.S. environmental groups."

To put it succinctly: These reports suggest some sort of collusion or cooperation between U.S. environmental groups and Putin's Russia, working together to undermine America's crucial domestic energy sector. This sector is a boom industry, tremendous for our workers. It has resurrected the Rustbelt.


more... https://www.westernjournal.com/paul-kengor-why-isnt-trump-tweeting-this/?ff_source=push

Now, this is more like the collusion which has always existed between the Left Wing of the Democrat Party and Russia.
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Solar

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
So Putin is funding Dim supported groups? :biggrin:
Truth is, this has been going on for decades. When Gorbachev came to the Bay Area in Ca and started his "Green Cross" it's sole purpose was to target American energy.
Under the guise of saving the planet. Sound familiar?

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wally

Quote from: Solar on March 17, 2018, 01:34:03 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
So Putin is funding Dim supported groups? :biggrin:
Truth is, this has been going on for decades. When Gorbachev came to the Bay Area in Ca and started his "Green Cross" it's sole purpose was to target American energy.
Under the guise of saving the planet. Sound familiar?

https://www.gcint.org/

I expect that when the Trump/Russia Collusion Propaganda peters completely out, what we'll be left with is the real collusion between the Democrats, embeds within the Deep State and the Russians and other enemies/adversaries of America and western democracies.
The press is our chief ideological weapon.
~ Nikita Khrushchev

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

~Ronald Reagan

Solar

Quote from: wally on March 17, 2018, 02:05:43 PM
I expect that when the Trump/Russia Collusion Propaganda peters completely out, what we'll be left with is the real collusion between the Democrats, embeds within the Deep State and the Russians and other enemies/adversaries of America and western democracies.
No doubt.
People will be shocked at the amount of collusion and corruption on behalf of the left.
It's only to get worse for the Dims as time goes on.
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Walter Josh

What???
The oil and associated gas we derive from shale is booming because of its quality.
The shale acts as a filter lowering refining need and cost; raising the margin
on the product. As well, Keystone is on track.
By 2019 exports of this oil and methane gas will have turned our chronic BOP Deficit, positive.
Suggest we calm down a moment.

wally

Quote from: Walter Josh on March 17, 2018, 03:44:51 PM
What???
The oil and associated gas we derive from shale is booming because of its quality.
The shale acts as a filter lowering refining need and cost; raising the margin
on the product. As well, Keystone is on track.
By 2019 exports of this oil and methane gas will have turned our chronic BOP Deficit, positive.
Suggest we calm down a moment.
Russia is very dependent upon the price of their petroleum being high.  They have a very fragile economy.  Putin knows that a strong Leader can cripple him without directly confronting him, simply by driving the price of oil down through increasing the supply on the world market.  This is why Putin is so heavily invested in achieving hegemony in the Middle East!  Obama enabled Putin.  Trump is stifling his ambitions and hitting him right in Russia's bankbook!
The press is our chief ideological weapon.
~ Nikita Khrushchev

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

~Ronald Reagan

Cryptic Bert

So, Putin rigged the election so Trump the republican would win, Then he goes and finances democrat groups opposed to Trump's agenda.

What are they smoking?

supsalemgr

It makes total sense that Putin would try to damage our fossil fuel industry. The Russian econmy is a one trick pony dependent upon oil and natural gas. We will see if collusion between Russia and the left is revealed.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 18, 2018, 04:57:15 AM
It makes total sense that Putin would try to damage our fossil fuel industry. The Russian econmy is a one trick pony dependent upon oil and natural gas. We will see if collusion between Russia and the left is revealed.
We know they were colluding. Think Hillary and Uranium One.
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supsalemgr

Quote from: Solar on March 18, 2018, 05:14:48 AM
We know they were colluding. Think Hillary and Uranium One.

We know there was collusion. The question is will the leftists in Washington pursue this?
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 18, 2018, 07:57:55 AM
We know there was collusion. The question is will the leftists in Washington pursue this?
Of course they will, they have to distract from the truth that it was their dossier that proves it was they, who were doing the colluding.
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wally

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 18, 2018, 04:57:15 AM
It makes total sense that Putin would try to damage our fossil fuel industry. The Russian econmy is a one trick pony dependent upon oil and natural gas. We will see if collusion between Russia and the left is revealed.
Just as THIS POTUS is not telegraphing our punches on the Battlefield, he is not boasting about our strategic initiative to collapse Russia, simply by flooding the market with a glut of cheap oil and strengthening our economy, which will make world wide interest rates rise.  Putin will go bankrupt, just as the Soviet Union did when they tried to compete with Reagan's arms race and the impact of the successful Reagan economy!

The Libtarded Left scream for Trump to do something symbolic, while ignoring the fact that Trump is doing something far more substantial.   Making America Great Again has the added bonus of making our adversaries weaker!  :smile:
The press is our chief ideological weapon.
~ Nikita Khrushchev

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

~Ronald Reagan

Walter Josh

Quote from: wally on March 17, 2018, 06:02:57 PM
Russia is very dependent upon the price of their petroleum being high.  They have a very fragile economy.  Putin knows that a strong Leader can cripple him without directly confronting him, simply by driving the price of oil down through increasing the supply on the world market.  This is why Putin is so heavily invested in achieving hegemony in the Middle East!  Obama enabled Putin.  Trump is stifling his ambitions and hitting him right in Russia's bankbook!
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An anecdote from an old engineering colleague.
The eastern Europeans are anxious to wean off their dependence on Russian methane.
As such, tank farms to hold our LNG are emerging along the North Sea/Baltic Coast.