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Title: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 05, 2018, 03:55:23 PM

I'll cut to the chase...

You were Right all along...

You were Right, he is the best thing since the wheel. This is not a joke, I, and many of my ilk, around 30%+ of the base now support Trump wholeheartedly!

Think about that, we didn't even vote for Trump, although, we would fight to vote for him now, yet the LSM would have us believe he is still in negative approval. Can you imagine how the vote would have gone if we had actually voted for him?
Point is, we are many and we'll be voting for his reelection in 2020, keep that in mind as you read on.

Yes, and we're fuckin tickled as Hell we were wrong and you were Right. In part, we weren't wrong on Cruz, no, we were sick and tired of Marxists running for office with an (R), we had fought a litany of leftists, from Kasich, Rubio to Jeb and his leftists family and their friends like the traitor McStain, we were certain Cruz would win, how could he lose?
But ya know what?
More~~~~~~~~~

https://conservativehardliner.com/trumpanzees-nevertrumpers
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: supsalemgr on March 06, 2018, 04:39:42 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 05, 2018, 03:55:23 PM
I'll cut to the chase...

You were Right all along...

You were Right, he is the best thing since the wheel. This is not a joke, I, and many of my ilk, around 30%+ of the base now support Trump wholeheartedly!

Think about that, we didn't even vote for Trump, although, we would fight to vote for him now, yet the LSM would have us believe he is still in negative approval. Can you imagine how the vote would have gone if we had actually voted for him?
Point is, we are many and we'll be voting for his reelection in 2020, keep that in mind as you read on.

Yes, and we're fuckin tickled as Hell we were wrong and you were Right. In part, we weren't wrong on Cruz, no, we were sick and tired of Marxists running for office with an (R), we had fought a litany of leftists, from Kasich, Rubio to Jeb and his leftists family and their friends like the traitor McStain, we were certain Cruz would win, how could he lose?
But ya know what?
More~~~~~~~~~

https://conservativehardliner.com/trumpanzees-nevertrumpers

Ditto. Many of us were looking for a conservative and Cruz filled the bill. Trump was not and is not a true conservative. However, I don't think he thinks in terms of conservative or liberal. I see him as a patriot that desires for America to be great again. Fortunately to get there he has to govern as a conservative and that is why many of us have changed our opinions of him.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 06, 2018, 06:07:16 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 06, 2018, 04:39:42 AM
Ditto. Many of us were looking for a conservative and Cruz filled the bill. Trump was not and is not a true conservative. However, I don't think he thinks in terms of conservative or liberal. I see him as a patriot that desires for America to be great again. Fortunately to get there he has to govern as a conservative and that is why many of us have changed our opinions of him.
Absolutely agree. Which has also defined his leanings as a patriot, he has yet to make a leftist move that would make the base question him.
It would appear he has a solid grasp, or in the least, a mentor/adviser on the team that keeps him in line with our Founding ideals, anyway, his actions show it, while his rhetoric drives many of his base crazy.
That was the part of his base I did not like, the frothing mouth breathers that were ready to come to blows, these people are still over the top crazy, and are still ready to fight if Trump breaks his promises, which is fine but they really need to understand what Trump does vs what he say's are two completely different things.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: AndyJackson on March 06, 2018, 07:20:03 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 06, 2018, 06:07:16 AM
Absolutely agree. Which has also defined his leanings as a patriot, he has yet to make a leftist move that would make the base question him.
It would appear he has a solid grasp, or in the least, a mentor/adviser on the team that keeps him in line with our Founding ideals, anyway, his actions show it, while his rhetoric drives many of his base crazy.
That was the part of his base I did not like, the frothing mouth breathers that were ready to come to blows, these people are still over the top crazy, and are still ready to fight if Trump breaks his promises, which is fine but they really need to understand what Trump does vs what he say's are two completely different things.
Shoulda listened to me from the start !  tsk tsk tsk........

And I liked Cruz more too, in the beginning.  But Cruz wasn't the right guy for right now.  He's more political than Trump, which wouldn't have helped in the big brawl with the swamp.

He also probably would have been more susceptible to the endless grind of the MSM, dems, RINO's, twitter twats, facebook fools, and so on.  Trump's the one in a billion who loves this kind of grinding fight.  It probably energizes him, lol.

When Trump says something that sounds liberal, and all his haters squeal "hawhawhawhaw".......... you know he's just setting them up for something.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 06, 2018, 07:28:18 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on March 06, 2018, 07:20:03 AM
Shoulda listened to me from the start !  tsk tsk tsk........

And I liked Cruz more too, in the beginning.  But Cruz wasn't the right guy for right now.  He's more political than Trump, which wouldn't have helped in the big brawl with the swamp.

He also probably would have been more susceptible to the endless grind of the MSM, dems, RINO's, twitter twats, facebook fools, and so on.  Trump's the one in a billion who loves this kind of grinding fight.  It probably energizes him, lol.

When Trump says something that sounds liberal, and all his haters squeal "hawhawhawhaw".......... you know he's just setting them up for something.
Problem is, no one knew this but Trump's inner circle, even McConnel helped remove Cruz from the running because the Establishment feared a Cruz Presidency far more than that of a Former Dim.
Nah, you were no more privy to information than anyone else, you, like everyone else had the same information on Trump as the rest of us, you ran solely on faith that he wouldn't turn left once elected.
I'm just glad the gamble paid off.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Bronx on March 06, 2018, 11:48:19 AM
That saying "action speaks louder than words" speaks volumes for President Trump. The problem with the every day Trump haters or never Trumpers is that they are so is caught up with what comes out of his mouth while overlooking what he has done. Although; I do love the fight Trump brings the media via twitter I support him on what he has done, his policies.



Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: supsalemgr on March 06, 2018, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: Bronx on March 06, 2018, 11:48:19 AM
That saying "action speaks louder than words" speaks volumes for President Trump. The problem with the every day Trump haters or never Trumpers is that they are so is caught up with what comes out of his mouth while overlooking what he has done. Although; I do love the fight Trump brings the media via twitter I support him on what he has done, his policies.

Good point about the criticizers talking about what he says and not what he does. The reason is they can't criticize his actions because they are working. 
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 06, 2018, 01:13:36 PM
Quote from: Bronx on March 06, 2018, 11:48:19 AM
That saying "action speaks louder than words" speaks volumes for President Trump. The problem with the every day Trump haters or never Trumpers is that they are so is caught up with what comes out of his mouth while overlooking what he has done. Although; I do love the fight Trump brings the media via twitter I support him on what he has done, his policies.
Yes. Trump is literally the opposite of the GOP. The gop'E tells us they're working hard, promise to follow the conservative cause they campaigned on, then sign the biggest debt increase in the history of the US, fight to keep the borders open, compromise on everything the left demands.
Trump, on the other hand, feeds the leftists with "Maybes", gets them to come to the table and exposes them for the frauds they truly are.
All the while the leftist GOP leadership is scared to death of Trump because they know quite well he'll play them just like he's done with the Dims.

Noticed how low McCon has been lying nearly all of Trump's first term? Trump has the Con scared shitless.
I wonder how many times he's wished he'd let Cruz win? :lol:
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: AndyJackson on March 06, 2018, 01:49:43 PM
Trump was simply the 3rd party guy that everybody supposedly always wanted.  He ran as a repub because he's smart, he has a business sense that would tell him that the other parties / labels are worthless and an instant loss.  And he just happened to be a bit more GOP / conservative than dem / liberal.  And I think his inner conservative has kicked in since the election.

Trouble is, the people who always said this really didn't want it.  Dems don't want 3rd party if it's not communist, and GOP doesn't want it if it's not Rockefeller - Bush - Romney centric.

Plus neither wants anybody who won't kiss the asses of the elite at the top of either party.  Woooooops - Trump, lol.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 06, 2018, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: AndyJackson on March 06, 2018, 01:49:43 PM
Trump was simply the 3rd party guy that everybody supposedly always wanted.  He ran as a repub because he's smart, he has a business sense that would tell him that the other parties / labels are worthless and an instant loss.  And he just happened to be a bit more GOP / conservative than dem / liberal. And I think his inner conservative has kicked in since the election.

Trouble is, the people who always said this really didn't want it.  Dems don't want 3rd party if it's not communist, and GOP doesn't want it if it's not Rockefeller - Bush - Romney centric.

Plus neither wants anybody who won't kiss the asses of the elite at the top of either party.  Woooooops - Trump, lol.
I think you're Right. I think Trump actually thought he could work with the leftist McCON-nel, that now that the Dim party imploded, he figured the pressure was off the Con and he'd no longer have to cave to the left.
Trump quickly learned what we've known for decades, the GOP loves the Dim party platform and the Con showed Trump just what he was and Trump wants no part of a Deep State RINO.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Sauce on March 08, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
This is another guy I started following on twitter recently, a staunch Sessions backer and poster on CTH.    Wasn't till this post that I found out his Trump story is a mirror of mine (some of you)...stayed a never Trumper through the general election and had a gradual epiphany after he won...

Figure it fit in this thread

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/971497453534015488.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/971497453534015488.html)
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 08, 2018, 07:00:15 AM
Quote from: Sauce on March 08, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
This is another guy I started following on twitter recently, a staunch Sessions backer and poster on CTH.    Wasn't till this post that I found out his Trump story is a mirror of mine (some of you)...stayed a never Trumper through the general election and had a gradual epiphany after he won...

Figure it fit in this thread

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/971497453534015488.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/971497453534015488.html)
Do us a favor, post what you consider the relevant part of the article as well as the link.
Most of us haven't the time to read entire threads. If we find it to be a good read, then great, but a lot of people won't click blind links, no matter where they lead.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Sauce on March 08, 2018, 08:28:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 08, 2018, 07:00:15 AM
Do us a favor, post what you consider the relevant part of the article as well as the link.
Most of us haven't the time to read entire threads. If we find it to be a good read, then great, but a lot of people won't click blind links, no matter where they lead.

No Prob.... The following quote basically sums it up for me.  Saying basically that Stone, Bannon = (D bags), Believed the Evan Mcmuffin charade and voted for him, then pleasantly surprised with his appointments and leadership thus far....


QuoteYou know 2 of the biggest reasons I was Never Trump during the 2016 GOP primaries despite being desperate to avoid a Hillary Clinton presidency?

1. Stephen Bannon
2. Roger Stone.
With advisors like THAT, [Stone actually talked Trump into going on Alex Jones' InfoWars program] I figured any Trump presidency would be an unending shitshow from A to Z.
Once he actually won the election, Trump surprised me by assembling a great team around himself.

He quickly distanced himself from Roger Stone, which was a very positive development. And then Bannon self destructed as well and exited the White House.
I was rabidly Never Trump during the primaries. Those of you who followed me back then are very aware of that. Once he secured the nomination, I still couldn't bring myself to vote for him. Which is why I will always have to cop to voting for...Evan McMuffin.
However Trump absolutely shocked me once he actually assumed office & filled his cabinet and let his people get to work. I discovered that around 90% of my fears about a Trump The Stupid Impulsive Jerk Presidency were completely unfounded.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 08, 2018, 08:59:58 AM
Quote from: Sauce on March 08, 2018, 08:28:51 AM
No Prob.... The following quote basically sums it up for me.  Saying basically that Stone, Bannon = (D bags), Believed the Evan Mcmuffin charade and voted for him, then pleasantly surprised with his appointments and leadership thus far....
Excellent. But you know where this really fits, is here:

https://conservativehardliner.com/trumpanzees-nevertrumpers
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: AndyJackson on March 08, 2018, 09:39:54 AM
I guess I never got down into the weeds in all of this.

I originally wanted Cruz because he was by far the best conservative in the field, with great experience in leadership and govt.  And actually the smartest guy in the room, 99% of the time.  I voted Cruz in the primary.

When Trump was pulling away, I was OK with it since he probably had the best shot at Hillary, and I saw where he was actually going to apply common sense business practices if he got the chance.

And as I said, he's far better than Cruz to handle this civil war with the dems-media-Hollywood-RINO's.  Cruz's time will come after the war is won.

So that's it really, it's that simple for me.

I don't care much what he does with staff.  He's had some great ones and some misfires.  There are still a bunch of great people out there who want to work for him - Bolton, Kudlow, Giuliani, Mike Huckabee.  Staffing will be fine as we go.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 08, 2018, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on March 08, 2018, 09:39:54 AM
I guess I never got down into the weeds in all of this.

I originally wanted Cruz because he was by far the best conservative in the field, with great experience in leadership and govt.  And actually the smartest guy in the room, 99% of the time.  I voted Cruz in the primary.

When Trump was pulling away, I was OK with it since he probably had the best shot at Hillary, and I saw where he was actually going to apply common sense business practices if he got the chance.

And as I said, he's far better than Cruz to handle this civil war with the dems-media-Hollywood-RINO's.  Cruz's time will come after the war is won.

So that's it really, it's that simple for me.

I don't care much what he does with staff.  He's had some great ones and some misfires.  There are still a bunch of great people out there who want to work for him - Bolton, Kudlow, Giuliani, Mike Huckabee.  Staffing will be fine as we go.
The reason I'm glad Trump won in the end, is Cruz didn't have the connections Trump did, didn't have near the backing of the Patriots in the military either.
In short, Cruz would have had the McCON-nel machine against him and little of the party's support, they'd have done their best to see that Cruz failed.
While Trump came in with a real strategy backed by military intel guys with all the dirt on the left including McCON, which is why we haven't heard a peep out of the RINO slimeball.

As much as I wanted Cruz, I don't think he'd been allowed to accomplish a fraction of what Trump has done in his first year.
I agree that Trump will clear the way for another Cruz run.
What I'd like to see is Pence step aside and let Cruz run as Veep, setting him up for a sure win in 2024.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: AndyJackson on March 08, 2018, 10:26:02 AM
lol, I keep dreaming of a Cruz VP .......... AND Trump nominates him for the SC.  I think this may be permissible.  The SC has weird flexibility; I think I heard one time that you don't even have to be a lawyer to be appointed , so I doubt there are many rules in the way of something like this.

It would absolutely kill the left.  They'd be lighting themselves on fire in the streets.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: T Hunt on March 08, 2018, 10:37:05 AM
I hope Trump is learning that the rinos are a greater threat to the MAGA agenda in the long run than the dems are, due to being sneaky and infiltrating, undermining the main oposition to progressive liberals. Sort of the same way that a secular progressive evolution is more dangerous than a communist revolution. The evolution is a slow sneaky creep that can go undetected until it is too late. The rino cancer must be reversed.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: supsalemgr on March 08, 2018, 11:55:07 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on March 08, 2018, 10:37:05 AM
I hope Trump is learning that the rinos are a greater threat to the MAGA agenda in the long run than the dems are, due to being sneaky and infiltrating, undermining the main oposition to progressive liberals. Sort of the same way that a secular progressive evolution is more dangerous than a communist revolution. The evolution is a slow sneaky creep that can go undetected until it is too late. The rino cancer must be reversed.

Welcome to the forum. The declawing of RINO began in 2010 and is ongoing. It is an evolution as it took decades for RINO and GOPe to gain their power. The house transformation is well underway as one only has to see that nothing gets passed without Freedom Caucus support. The senate is the real work in progress at this point.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 08, 2018, 12:04:09 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on March 08, 2018, 10:37:05 AM
I hope Trump is learning that the rinos are a greater threat to the MAGA agenda in the long run than the dems are, due to being sneaky and infiltrating, undermining the main oposition to progressive liberals. Sort of the same way that a secular progressive evolution is more dangerous than a communist revolution. The evolution is a slow sneaky creep that can go undetected until it is too late. The rino cancer must be reversed.
Yep, I have a feeling he not only knows, but has boxed McCON-nel into a corner to keep him under control. This is why you haven't heard a peep out of the leftist.

The 60s Dims were far more Conservative than our current crop of RINO, in fact, JFK would be attacked by the likes of McCON-nel if he were running on the pub ticket today.
There's a measure of how far left the GOP has moved, and the very reason why we need to purge these Marxists from the party.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: AndyJackson on March 08, 2018, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 08, 2018, 12:04:09 PM
Yep, I have a feeling he not only knows, but has boxed McCON-nel into a corner to keep him under control. This is why you haven't heard a peep out of the leftist.

The 60s Dims were far more Conservative than our current crop of RINO, in fact, JFK would be attacked by the likes of McCON-nel if he were running on the pub ticket today.
There's a measure of how far left the GOP has moved, and the very reason why we need to purge these Marxists from the party.
That's a funny thing regarding JFK.

-Devout Catholic
-Celebrated Navy Veteran
-Obscenely rich from selling the old demon rum
-"Ask not what your country can do for you........"
-Anti-communist, pro-gun

The dems today would not even allow him in the party; RINO would hate him just as much as they do Trump.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Rotwang on March 09, 2018, 05:00:51 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 05, 2018, 03:55:23 PM
I'll cut to the chase...

You were Right all along...

You were Right, he is the best thing since the wheel. This is not a joke, I, and many of my ilk, around 30%+ of the base now support Trump wholeheartedly!

Think about that, we didn't even vote for Trump, although, we would fight to vote for him now, yet the LSM would have us believe he is still in negative approval. Can you imagine how the vote would have gone if we had actually voted for him?
Point is, we are many and we'll be voting for his reelection in 2020, keep that in mind as you read on.

Yes, and we're fuckin tickled as Hell we were wrong and you were Right. In part, we weren't wrong on Cruz, no, we were sick and tired of Marxists running for office with an (R), we had fought a litany of leftists, from Kasich, Rubio to Jeb and his leftists family and their friends like the traitor McStain, we were certain Cruz would win, how could he lose?
But ya know what?
More~~~~~~~~~

https://conservativehardliner.com/trumpanzees-nevertrumpers

NO.


You were not wrong.

I will admit, nakedly, it was FAITH IN GOD that led me to Trump.

GOD DELIVERED.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Rotwang on March 09, 2018, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 06, 2018, 07:28:18 AM
Problem is, no one knew this but Trump's inner circle, even McConnel helped remove Cruz from the running because the Establishment feared a Cruz Presidency far more than that of a Former Dim.
Nah, you were no more privy to information than anyone else, you, like everyone else had the same information on Trump as the rest of us, you ran solely on faith that he wouldn't turn left once elected.
I'm just glad the gamble paid off.

Like most, I believed CRUZ would have been a better choice.

But he didn't work out - THEN. He could still be the resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in our future.

Senator Cruz remains very effective, and will accomplish much.

In the meantime - GO TRUMP !!
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Rotwang on March 09, 2018, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: AndyJackson on March 08, 2018, 01:52:47 PM
That's a funny thing regarding JFK.

-Devout Catholic
-Celebrated Navy Veteran
-Obscenely rich from selling the old demon rum
-"Ask not what your country can do for you........"
-Anti-communist, pro-gun

The dems today would not even allow him in the party; RINO would hate him just as much as they do Trump.

TRUE - though let's not get too off-topic.

JFK also adored Scrimshaw and had WHALE TEETH displayed on his desk.

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-pfPdGOwi0AY%2FUGTMtmUNwqI%2FAAAAAAAACtw%2Fgeeke_aCj6Y%2Fs640%2FJFK%2Bdesk.jpg&hash=a94e8120ccdc57a401ddaf8aa425526455f3077c)

Not too PC nowadays.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 09, 2018, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: Rotwang on March 09, 2018, 05:00:51 PM

NO.


You were not wrong.

I will admit, nakedly, it was FAITH IN GOD that led me to Trump.

GOD DELIVERED.
Yes, he answered all our prayers. :thumbup:
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: AndyJackson on March 13, 2018, 10:01:47 AM
Quote from: Rotwang on March 09, 2018, 05:15:40 PM
TRUE - though let's not get too off-topic.

JFK also adored Scrimshaw and had WHALE TEETH displayed on his desk.

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-pfPdGOwi0AY%2FUGTMtmUNwqI%2FAAAAAAAACtw%2Fgeeke_aCj6Y%2Fs640%2FJFK%2Bdesk.jpg&hash=a94e8120ccdc57a401ddaf8aa425526455f3077c)

Not too PC nowadays.
As befitting of a Navy man.  These are the things that are important symbols to a seafaring mariner.  Wonder what kind of guns Ike had laying around the office, lol.

Trump should have AR's, 1911's, K-Bars, Desert Eagles, Corvettes, and Harleys displayed in the oval office.  Desert Eagles may be Israeli, but still a nice thought.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: SueAnn on March 13, 2018, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: Rotwang on March 09, 2018, 05:09:45 PM
Like most, I believed CRUZ would have been a better choice.

But he didn't work out - THEN. He could still be the resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in our future.

Senator Cruz remains very effective, and will accomplish much.
I was a Cruz campaigner.  Then something happened that turned me off in a heart beat.  I switched to Trump and have never regretted it.
Are you aware that Heidi Cruz, Ted's wife, was CFR.  His Dad is CIA.
Cruz is evil wrapped in a pretty package.  We don't need him anywhere in the future.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 13, 2018, 09:07:47 PM
Quote from: SueAnn on March 13, 2018, 08:39:24 PM
I was a Cruz campaigner.  Then something happened that turned me off in a heart beat.  I switched to Trump and have never regretted it.
Are you aware that Heidi Cruz, Ted's wife, was CFR.  His Dad is CIA.
Cruz is evil wrapped in a pretty package.  We don't need him anywhere in the future.
What is CFR?
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: taxed on March 14, 2018, 02:30:43 AM
Quote from: SueAnn on March 13, 2018, 08:39:24 PM
I was a Cruz campaigner.  Then something happened that turned me off in a heart beat.  I switched to Trump and have never regretted it.
Are you aware that Heidi Cruz, Ted's wife, was CFR.  His Dad is CIA.
Cruz is evil wrapped in a pretty package.  We don't need him anywhere in the future.

That is incorrect, and a lie.  She was a consultant who worked for them, and actually was a dissenting voice in her analysis where she advised the free market was the best option.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 14, 2018, 07:11:57 AM
Quote from: taxed on March 14, 2018, 02:30:43 AM
That is incorrect, and a lie.  She was a consultant who worked for them, and actually was a dissenting voice in her analysis where she advised the free market was the best option.
Oh God, is that nonsense still alive? There's a reason Trumpanzees quit talking about it, I guess not everyone got the memo it was a lie.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Sauce on March 14, 2018, 07:50:48 AM
Quote from: SueAnn on March 13, 2018, 08:39:24 PM
I was a Cruz campaigner.  Then something happened that turned me off in a heart beat.  I switched to Trump and have never regretted it.
Are you aware that Heidi Cruz, Ted's wife, was CFR.  His Dad is CIA.
Cruz is evil wrapped in a pretty package.  We don't need him anywhere in the future.


The Canadian Mounty Cuban exile division  :wink:
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: SueAnn on March 14, 2018, 10:24:13 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 13, 2018, 09:07:47 PM
What is CFR?
Council on Foreign Relations
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: SueAnn on March 14, 2018, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: taxed on March 14, 2018, 02:30:43 AM
That is incorrect, and a lie.  She was a consultant who worked for them, and actually was a dissenting voice in her analysis where she advised the free market was the best option.

Taxed.  Give me links, please.  I would be happy to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 14, 2018, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: SueAnn on March 14, 2018, 10:24:13 AM
Council on Foreign Relations
Heidi was a dissenting voice. Read:

http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/ted-cruz-again-battles-globalist-charge-against-wife/
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Ponderaa1 on March 15, 2018, 10:33:39 AM
Here, HERE! Applaud!
I didn't vote for Trump...but I can't wait to vote for him in 2020!
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 15, 2018, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: Ponderaa1 on March 15, 2018, 10:33:39 AM
Here, HERE! Applaud!
I didn't vote for Trump...but I can't wait to vote for him in 2020!
Thanks, glad to see someone gets it that wasn't already a member. :thumbup:
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: wally on March 16, 2018, 10:23:43 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 06, 2018, 04:39:42 AM
Ditto. Many of us were looking for a conservative and Cruz filled the bill. Trump was not and is not a true conservative. However, I don't think he thinks in terms of conservative or liberal. I see him as a patriot that desires for America to be great again. Fortunately to get there he has to govern as a conservative and that is why many of us have changed our opinions of him.
Mega Dittos!  :thumbup:

Trump is not a Conservative, but it very well may be that a true Conservative would never have been elected and we would be in far deeper shit than we were with Obama.

President Trump is like the Corporation of America's new CEO!   I don't love him or hate him.  I am happy to have him doing the job which needs to be done.  Since the political pendulum had swung so far to the extreme Left, only a moron would not see that the course of the Ship of State needed to be corrected in a direction steered far more to the right.  Donald Trump is no moron!  However, Donald Trump is no ideological Conservative either.  As a Conservative, as long as Trump produces conservative results, he has my support (even if a few of his decisions are problematic).  Since he is not a true Conservative and seems to be adopting Conservative positions as a pragmatic response to problems from Liberal policies, I guess I'll always "trust but verify" that he isn't going to pivot to appease his country club Republican friends.  So far, so good though.  His former Country Club friends have disowned hims, so he is "our guyu" by default!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: supsalemgr on March 16, 2018, 12:47:00 PM
Quote from: wally on March 16, 2018, 10:23:43 AM
Mega Dittos!  :thumbup:

Trump is not a Conservative, but it very well may be that a true Conservative would never have been elected and we would be in far deeper shit than we were with Obama.

President Trump is like the Corporation of America's new CEO!   I don't love him or hate him.  I am happy to have him doing the job which needs to be done.  Since the political pendulum had swung so far to the extreme Left, only a moron would not see that the course of the Ship of State needed to be corrected in a direction steered far more to the right.  Donald Trump is no moron!  However, Donald Trump is no ideological Conservative either.  As a Conservative, as long as Trump produces conservative results, he has my support (even if a few of his decisions are problematic).  Since he is not a true Conservative and seems to be adopting Conservative positions as a pragmatic response to problems from Liberal policies, I guess I'll always "trust but verify" that he isn't going to pivot to appease his country club Republican friends.  So far, so good though.  His former Country Club friends have disowned hims, so he is "our guyu" by default!  :thumbsup:

As you say he is pretty smart. He was an outsider and out of necessity had to depend on GOPe types to get his government off the ground. Hence, Reince Priebus was put in place. Trump has now begun to realize who is friends are, and they are few in Washington. Time will tell if he will continue to drain the swamp.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: wally on March 16, 2018, 02:59:51 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 16, 2018, 12:47:00 PM
As you say he is pretty smart. He was an outsider and out of necessity had to depend on GOPe types to get his government off the ground. Hence, Reince Priebus was put in place. Trump has now begun to realize who is friends are, and they are few in Washington. Time will tell if he will continue to drain the swamp.
He uses people as if they were merely tools to get the job done.  Hey, wait a minute, isn't that the way it ought to be!  People are hired to serve at the pleasure of the CEO and ideally, when they are hired, they give the boss a signed letter of resignation, for him to use at any time he chooses!   It's the same thing with the guy we have temporarily hired to run our corporation (we're all shareholders), if he makes a mistake or two; who cares. The long term results are all that matters to our bottom line.  Too many mistakes and too few accomplishments and "You're Fired!"  No hard feelings, it just might be time for a change.  All this blind cult worship for political figures, screws things up!

Having said all this, I am quite content with keeping this President in his job at the present time.  Year one was OJT!  The bar gets higher as time goes by though!
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Double D on March 17, 2018, 02:19:42 PM
Quote from: Ponderaa1 on March 15, 2018, 10:33:39 AM
Here, HERE! Applaud!
I didn't vote for Trump...but I can't wait to vote for him in 2020!

Why is nobody mentioning Trumps recent gun grabbing ideas and proposals? His stance has empowered the gun grabbers and has caused many so called repubs to cave to the lefts pressure. I havent posted here since shortly after the election was over. I didnt vote for Trump. I wrote in Cruz. I am still not sorry I did. I feel good about my decision. Trump has done some decent things but I still cant stand the guy. Dont like his arrogant persona and his smirky face and his school yard bantering and tweeting. I wont vote for him next go around either. I think scandals are brewing and I doubt he is re elected. He was also supposed to be the great business man who knows how to hire the right people......how many has he gone thru so far? 20-25? Sorry, not impressed.




















































Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 17, 2018, 02:32:36 PM
Quote from: Double D on March 17, 2018, 02:19:42 PM
Why is nobody mentioning Trumps recent gun grabbing ideas and proposals? His stance has empowered the gun grabbers and has caused many so called repubs to cave to the lefts pressure. I havent posted here since shortly after the election was over. I didnt vote for Trump. I wrote in Cruz. I am still not sorry I did. I feel good about my decision. Trump has done some decent things but I still cant stand the guy. Dont like his arrogant persona and his smirky face and his school yard bantering and tweeting. I wont vote for him next go around either. I think scandals are brewing and I doubt he is re elected. He was also supposed to be the great business man who knows how to hire the right people......how many has he gone thru so far? 20-25? Sorry, not impressed.
Rhetoric. That's all it is, just like his DACA offer, the deal he new the Dims would refuse.
His track record speaks for itself, he say's a lot of shit, much of it freaks out the base, but he has yet to go back on any of his campaign promises.
You remember how I hated Trump, couldn't stand the guy, wrote in Cruz as well, but after watching Trump over the year, I've come to the conclusion he's a true Patriot which Trump's party, and thank God for that, considering how the gop'E sells out the country every chance they get.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Double D on March 17, 2018, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 17, 2018, 02:32:36 PM
Rhetoric. That's all it is, just like his DACA offer, the deal he new the Dims would refuse.
His track record speaks for itself, he say's a lot of shit, much of it freaks out the base, but he has yet to go back on any of his campaign promises.
You remember how I hated Trump, couldn't stand the guy, wrote in Cruz as well, but after watching Trump over the year, I've come to the conclusion he's a true Patriot which Trump's party, and thank God for that, considering how the gop'E sells out the country every chance they get.

Sorry, I dont want my so called conservative president spouting anything about any type of gun control, period. I dont write it off as rhetoric or "fake news" or whatever. Its personal to me and its a complete disregard for the 2nd amendment. It pisses me off. Now we have gun confiscation starting in Florida.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Double D on March 17, 2018, 02:46:19 PM
https://keepandbear.com/2a/florida-gun-confiscation-begins-leftist-warping-tragedy/

"The guns and ammunition of a 56-year-old Lighthouse Point, Florida, resident were confiscated by police in what is reportedly the first such seizure under gun control laws signed by Gov. Rick Scott (R) last week.

Its only beginning...
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 17, 2018, 02:49:18 PM
Quote from: Double D on March 17, 2018, 02:46:19 PM
https://keepandbear.com/2a/florida-gun-confiscation-begins-leftist-warping-tragedy/

"The guns and ammunition of a 56-year-old Lighthouse Point, Florida, resident were confiscated by police in what is reportedly the first such seizure under gun control laws signed by Gov. Rick Scott (R) last week.

Its only beginning...
Which has what to do with Trump? Blame the leftist GOP, they should be your target.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Double D on March 17, 2018, 03:02:27 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 17, 2018, 02:49:18 PM
Which has what to do with Trump? Blame the leftist GOP, they should be your target.

When the top man says dont fear the NRA and that we should grab the guns first and work out the due process later and tells Finestine and her bunch to add in her gun control crap into his big bill he is pushing, its kinda his fault. It doesnt really matter now I guess. He has a large majority fooled.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 17, 2018, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: Double D on March 17, 2018, 03:02:27 PM
When the top man says dont fear the NRA and that we should grab the guns first and work out the due process later and tells Finestine and her bunch to add in her gun control crap into his big bill he is pushing, its kinda his fault. It doesnt really matter now I guess. He has a large majority fooled.
So you take everything written in a headline as the gospel?

First off, try reading what Trump was talking about when he made that statement, and the fact that an EO didn't follow nor has there been any Legislation sponsored, proves it was just to shut the left up.
Second, what he said to Feinstein, was to talk to, I think it was (Twomey?) or whoever the sponsors of the Bill were, knowing quite well, with her addition, the Bill had no chance of passing.
She was played for the idiot she is.

Seriously, start reading everything and understanding what you're reading, because believe it or not, the LSM lies, especially in headlines, as well as, quit listening to losers that have no clue as to what they're talking about on Faceplant and Twitt-er, the left owns these sites and edits the truth as well as ban people for posting an opposing view, leaving mostly angry idiots on those sites.

Hell, I've been banned from ABC and The Hill just last week just for telling the truth, meaning there are no longer any real opposing views left.
I don't blame you for not hearing the truth, but it is up to you to seek it out.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Double D on March 18, 2018, 05:47:31 AM
I read many different sources. I am an administrator on a firearms forum and have been an FFL for about 10 years. I am an NRA certified pistol instructor and have had a carry permit since Florida began issuing them in 86. I am passionate about guns and the 2nd. I am sensitive on the issue. It amuses me that ever since Trump decided that anything that didnt fit his narrative was "fake news" his followers say the same thing. What is even funnier is that anyone who claims to be conservative yet doesnt back Trump is considered a liberal or Hillary supporter. I know first hand. I am 60 years old and have never voted for any liberal in any capacity and dont plan on it now. I hope this presidency finds a way to end well but I dont have a good feeling.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 18, 2018, 06:11:51 AM
Quote from: Double D on March 18, 2018, 05:47:31 AM
I read many different sources. I am an administrator on a firearms forum and have been an FFL for about 10 years. I am an NRA certified pistol instructor and have had a carry permit since Florida began issuing them in 86. I am passionate about guns and the 2nd. I am sensitive on the issue. It amuses me that ever since Trump decided that anything that didnt fit his narrative was "fake news" his followers say the same thing. What is even funnier is that anyone who claims to be conservative yet doesnt back Trump is considered a liberal or Hillary supporter. I know first hand. I am 60 years old and have never voted for any liberal in any capacity and dont plan on it now. I hope this presidency finds a way to end well but I dont have a good feeling.
Like I said, it's all rhetoric. Point to one time Trump actually broke a campaign promise.
When Trump says things we don't agree with, in nearly every case, Trump was stealing the narrative from the left, and if you had paid attention, the left changed the narrative because Trump had stolen their thunder.
It's been more than a year and Trump has done absolutely done nothing to damage the 2nd, not one thing, look it up.
All I can say is, quit falling the BS. Use critical thought, that's what Conservatives do, we don't react emotionally.

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Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Double D on March 18, 2018, 06:36:26 AM
Its difficult when I dont believe Trump or anyone he has representing him. Im glad you guys are all warm and fuzzy with him now but it just isnt happening for me. Keeping my fingers crossed.....
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: Solar on March 18, 2018, 07:37:04 AM
Quote from: Double D on March 18, 2018, 06:36:26 AM
Its difficult when I dont believe Trump or anyone he has representing him. Im glad you guys are all warm and fuzzy with him now but it just isnt happening for me. Keeping my fingers crossed.....
I get where you're coming from, I really do.
Believe me, it took me awhile to warm up to Trump, simply because of his rhetoric, everything he'd said leaned left, but his actions always leaned hard right.
Then I started looking into the details of his policy moves, and oddly enough I was shocked to discover an actual Patriot, then it all started to make sense.
He isn't interested in our debt, it's not at the top of his agenda, it's restoring America and our Founding ideals, and to do that he has to destroy the leftists in the country, all housed under the banner of the Dim party.
Try looking at it from this perspective and you might start seeing Trump in a new light.
Also, it was the fact that he has the Military backing him, got rid of the SS attachment and replaced them with his own loyal security detail.
All of this explains why he's gutting the SS, FBI and CIA, they are tools of the left.

Believe me, I never trusted the guy from day one, just saw him as a lib scammer, a tool of McCON-nel, but his actions are where he's gone against the party spoke volumes.
All I can say is, take another look at his actions vs his rhetoric, he's 12 steps ahead of the leftists in both party's.

Keep one thing in mind when listening to Trump, he knows liberals are stupid, they never read beyond the headlines, while Conservatives watch for results.
Title: Re: To Trumpanzees From Nevertrumpers
Post by: redbeard on March 18, 2018, 07:56:04 PM
I have no doubt that had Cruz or any of the other republicans won the leftist machine and the MSM would have gone after them too. Trump thrives on this crap! The MSM has lost any respectability. Trump has Devastated their image and turned all their lies back on them. The Dim's are leaderless and fighting against themselves, As this year goes on and more corruption is outed The dim's will be in more and more of a frenzy. Not the place to be if they want the Dim Sweep they all seem to talk about!
I don't believe any republican we had running could have survived this last year. none of them, including Cruz, could take the abuse Piled on by the Clinton machine and the MSM. I really believe Trump was the only one that would get down in the mud with them and be able to turn it to his advantage. Even the Muller Probe will fall apart and Muller himself will be left with egg all over his face and a reputation in shambles. No other politician that I have ever seen could pull this off as Trump has! :popcorn: