I had this discussion with a progressive friend of mine. He insisted that if we had much stricter gun control, the guns would simply become less easily to steal/sell on the black market. Of course I disagree with this. Just look at drugs for example.

He went on to say "but smuggling drugs is different from smuggling guns." But of course, making guns is different from making drugs, too. It's not too difficult to make guns if you have a basic knowledge of it. It doesn't only become a 'smuggling' issue.

I told him how Israel's schools have armed staffs and that there has not been a school shooting since the early 1970s. "But what if one of the students gets angry and takes one of the teachers' guns?" So far, this hasn't happened.

Obama and the Left will proceed in selectively taking "what ifs" scenarios that have not shown evidence of happening or sincerely likelihoods. They will ignore the facts, the data, the numbers, the logic, and the inevitable that people are the problem.

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Welcome to the forum, sn00ze!

Just a friendly note, you might want to reconsider the cartoon in you sig. We do have female members here who might not appreciate that particular brand of humor.

Just sayin'...

Uhhh... yeah... right...

I may have been born yesterday, but it wasn't last nite.

How's that, I'll meet the middle ground for a fellow conservative 

Hey, its not me you have to be concerned about. I thought the original was kind of funny - in a Sam Kennison kind of way. Tasteless, but funny.

I was just giving you a "heads ups" seeing as you are new here.

Poor ole Sam, you know I moved to Nevada in 94 and drove that highway 40 that came up the backside of California and Nevada eventually running into I-15 30 miles out of Vegas.  That Highway 40 is the most dangerous stretch of highway in the US, it was then that I could see how Sam died that night, it is one hundred miles of up and down roller coaster hills no more than 40 to 50 feet high, you cannot see another vehicles headlights until you meet it at the top of the hill you happen to be going over.  Absolutely the worst highway in the US, I would drive 300 miles out of my way to not drive that Highway 40 again.

Double solid lines? And how come you can't see the headlights. You should be able to pick them up from a distance? Driving during the day - when you can't see someone who's passing until they are right in front of you - would bother me more. Since it's desert, do you get that heat shimmer off the road?

Well seeing is believing, just take my word for it, if you have Google earth drop down and take a look at that highway and you'll see what I'm talking about, the hills are so close together you cannot see the oncoming headlights.  You have no idea what is on the other side of the hill, these aren't tall or steep hills, just tall enough to call it a roller coaster, that says it all.  There are two 40's one in Cal and Arizona, look at the intersection at I-15 and trace it back towards I-10 south, the highway is what appears to be a natural formation of washed out terrain, evidently they didn't feel it would be cost effective to flatten it out in any way, so they didn't!  The last stretch of highway 40 leading up to the on ramp at I-15 is almost red in color, don't know where that came from but it was just strange to see that color.

I saw that red road by the way, like most roads the road base is local to the area, like in Ca, there was a time when all roads were either white quartz or cement and lasted several lifetimes, now it's all asphalt and holds up ten years at best.

Ha. So who has they political pull to keep getting contracts to repair the roads? Or is it done by unionized public workers?