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To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« on: December 15, 2012, 06:42:07 AM »


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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2012, 07:31:07 AM »
Dear God,

How could this happen?  What is going on in our schools that a tragedy such as this happens, and way too often.

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Dear Concerned Parent,

I have no idea.  I'm not allowed in school.

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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2012, 07:53:27 AM »
No, it wasn't a Pub that said it, but you already knew that. :rolleyes:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/14/dem-lawmaker-get-gun-control-obama-must-exploit-sh/


Obama will never let this opportunity go to waste.  Hasn't he bragged about missed opportunities before this?  Stand back and watch him on this.  The left will cheer him on too.  i'd already made this statement on another thread before I saw this thread-sorry, you can move it if you like.  I'm horrified at this tragedy but I have learned in the past few years to not be shocked at anything that happens in today's society.  I try to talk to my children and especially my grandbabies and practically beg them not to be aloof about things that go on.  I can tell you that I am in a fight for their lives because they are hearing different stuff from, of all people, their public school teachers and their elected officials who seemingly jump on the bandwagons of whoever is in office right now. 
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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2012, 08:16:53 AM »
Dems motto:  Never let a tragedy go to waste.

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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2012, 10:46:59 AM »
Dear God,

How could this happen?  What is going on in our schools that a tragedy such as this happens, and way too often.

Concerned Parent

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Dear Concerned Parent,

I have no idea.  I'm not allowed in school.

God
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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2012, 12:51:23 PM »
Ever notice how these things escalate under ant-God Democrat rule.  God has been driven out of the Obama administration.  They are clearly hostile to Christian culture and fully endorse everything anti-Christian.  Is it any wonder that He has withdrawn His protection in our communistic schools?

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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2012, 01:28:41 PM »
Ever notice how these things escalate under ant-God Democrat rule.  God has been driven out of the Obama administration.  They are clearly hostile to Christian culture and fully endorse everything anti-Christian.  Is it any wonder that He has withdrawn His protection in our communistic schools?

Someone was listening to The Dennis Prager Show yesterday...

The truth is, since the assault weapon ban expired in 2004, crime, including gun-crimes, have been reduced. I am all for back round checks, but allowing responsible folks to own guns is their constitutional right. I would argue every community should have at least 1-2 cops stationed at every school during hours and every community should have metal detectors in every school building. I do not advocate this because of guns, I advocate it because of the crazies. The truth is, the colombine tragedy was an isolated event which sparked more tragic events like it. Since that occured, we needed to beef up security at our schools. This is not a federal responsibility, though the federal government should send money back to states for this purpose. State's and local communities need to step up and figure out ways to have more police and metal detectors in schools.

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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2012, 01:59:09 PM »
I don't listen to him. Glenn Beck, Rush, Hannity and in the night, Mark Levin.  Grape minds think alike though.
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I would argue every community should have at least 1-2 cops stationed at every school during hours and every community should have metal detectors in every school building.

I would argue NOT.  The American culture was never like this.  We respected guns and each other as human beings.  Something went wrong with the CULTURE. It's not the tool.

Time to quit focusing on an OBJECT and start thinking where "we" went wrong.  I've already giving MY theory (the only correct theory  :laugh:)

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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2012, 02:33:45 PM »
Has anyone done the percentages???? 50,000,000 students in school per year, an average of I think 22 deaths per year in our schools per year. Isn't it still one of the safest places to be. Wouldn't ya have twice as good a chance of being hit by lightning?
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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2012, 03:00:22 PM »
There should be armed guards at schools and other places. If government, or businesses, have declared themselves "gun free zones" they have, in effect, become responsible for the safety of people on their property. If the city has limited the ability of citizens to protect themselves on school grounds - and publicly announced that citizens will be helpless - then they MUST provide protection for those citizens. 
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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2012, 04:23:29 PM »
There should be armed guards at schools and other places. If government, or businesses, have declared themselves "gun free zones" they have, in effect, become responsible for the safety of people on their property. If the city has limited the ability of citizens to protect themselves on school grounds - and publicly announced that citizens will be helpless - then they MUST provide protection for those citizens.

I don't think turning our schools into de facto prisons is the answer. This is the same kind of mentality that has TSA doing virtual strip searches of every person who boards an airliner!

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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2012, 08:05:57 AM »
I don't think turning our schools into de facto prisons is the answer. This is the same kind of mentality that has TSA doing virtual strip searches of every person who boards an airliner!

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin, Feb 17, 1775

If a municipality or a business declares themselves a "gun free zone" they have accepted responsibility for the safety of all persons on their property. To no make the liable for the safety of people they have reduced to helplessness is as crazy as one of the "crazies" who will eventually show up. It's not turning a school into a prison to either provide protection for the students/teachers or allow the staff to provide their own protection. It is "magical thinking" to believe that announcing your helplessness will somehow enhance your safety. Would you put your money in a bank that made it know they were ridding themselves of armed guards, alarms, bulletproof plexiglass, locked doors and vaults? As a sign of their "faith" in the public! :rolleyes:
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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2012, 10:42:48 AM »
If a municipality or a business declares themselves a "gun free zone" they have accepted responsibility for the safety of all persons on their property. To no make the liable for the safety of people they have reduced to helplessness is as crazy as one of the "crazies" who will eventually show up. It's not turning a school into a prison to either provide protection for the students/teachers or allow the staff to provide their own protection. It is "magical thinking" to believe that announcing your helplessness will somehow enhance your safety. Would you put your money in a bank that made it know they were ridding themselves of armed guards, alarms, bulletproof plexiglass, locked doors and vaults? As a sign of their "faith" in the public! :rolleyes:
I believe there should be a policy that two people on a daily basis carry a piece, and those two are only required to carry over a two day period, after which, another two take over the position.

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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2012, 11:05:38 AM »
I can't nor do I want to argue against someone at each school that is trained to handle these situations when they arise, be it with guns as well.  As long as the "crazies" are around it will take trained personel to drive them back.  What did the adm. at this school report?  That his adm. was trained? To do what exactly?  Herd the children into another room?  Tell the children to hide somewhere?  Children in classrooms today are sitting ducks and nothing has been done to effectively stop the killing of students.  Making more rules won't stop the carnage and when the nuts decide to kill kids, they'll do it if they have to throw a bomb in the schools. 
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Re: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2012, 11:08:30 AM »
I had this discussion with a progressive friend of mine. He insisted that if we had much stricter gun control, the guns would simply become less easily to steal/sell on the black market. Of course I disagree with this. Just look at drugs for example.

He went on to say "but smuggling drugs is different from smuggling guns." But of course, making guns is different from making drugs, too. It's not too difficult to make guns if you have a basic knowledge of it. It doesn't only become a 'smuggling' issue.

I told him how Israel's schools have armed staffs and that there has not been a school shooting since the early 1970s. "But what if one of the students gets angry and takes one of the teachers' guns?" So far, this hasn't happened.

Obama and the Left will proceed in selectively taking "what ifs" scenarios that have not shown evidence of happening or sincerely likelihoods. They will ignore the facts, the data, the numbers, the logic, and the inevitable that people are the problem.

 

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