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Time to review Roe v Wad?
« on: May 15, 2019, 12:27:46 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/abortion-foes-eye-supreme-court-showdown-in-wake-of-alabama

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Pro-life lawmakers in Alabama lit a national firestorm this week by approving a near-total ban on abortion and imposing harsh penalties on doctors who perform the procedure. But supporters of the legislation do not expect it to take effect without a fight -- and that's by design.

The bill, known as HB314, criminalizes abortion in nearly every scenario, without any exceptions for cases of rape or incest, regardless of how far along a woman's pregnancy is. By far the most restrictive abortion bill to emerge at the state level in recent months, it was specifically meant to initiate a legal battle that could end up before the Supreme Court -- where a solid conservative majority has emerged during the Trump administration.

"The American people want a fresh debate and a new direction, achieved by consensus and built on love for both mothers and babies. The time is coming for the Supreme Court to let that debate go forward," Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of pro-life organization the Susan B. Anthony List, said in a statement on Wednesday.

The bill's sponsor acknowledges the legislation is aimed at sparking a new Supreme Court review of the landmark Roe v. Wade.

"This bill is about challenging Roe v. Wade and protecting the lives of the unborn because an unborn baby is a person who deserves love and protection,” GOP state Rep. Terri Collins, told The Washington Post.

The bill itself would appear to shatter one of the few areas of consensus in the abortion debate -- allowing exceptions in anti-abortion laws for rape and incest, which the Alabama legislation does not. Collins said she feels for rape and incest victims, but had to ensure the bill was restrictive enough to yield a legal challenge in federal court.

Amid condemnation from the other side of the abortion debate, that legal challenge appears to be in the works. Randall Marshall, the executive director of the ACLU of Alabama, said in a statement that the bill is "unconstitutional," and that his organization, along with the National ACLU and Planned Parenthood, intends to file a lawsuit challenging it, should Gov. Kay Ivey sign it into law.

In the meantime, Marshall pointed out, "This bill will not take effect anytime in the near future, and abortion will remain a safe, legal medical procedure at all clinics in Alabama." The bill itself states that it would not go into effect until six months after it is signed into law. The bill also allows for abortion where the mother faces a serious health risk or when the unborn child has a "lethal anomaly" that would cause it to be stillborn, or die soon after birth.

The legislation quickly became a 2020 campaign issue, as Democratic presidential candidates vowed to fight for abortion rights.

I'm not sure it is time for this yet. They may have jumped the gun. I would feel much safer once ruth has been replaced or Robert's has been removed due to FISAgate. The last thing we need is for abortion to be strengthened.

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Re: Time to review Roe v Wad?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2019, 08:02:07 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/abortion-foes-eye-supreme-court-showdown-in-wake-of-alabama

I'm not sure it is time for this yet. They may have jumped the gun. I would feel much safer once ruth has been replaced or Robert's has been removed due to FISAgate. The last thing we need is for abortion to be strengthened.

Planned or not, this will drive the Liberals absolutely CrAzY and distract them.

GOOD.

And, of course, give Emily another reason to get nekkid.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/05/16/nude-emily-ratajkowski-states-with-highest-proportions-of-black-women-using-abortion-to-protect-prison-industrial-complex/

Wat a dingbat.



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Re: Time to review Roe v Wad?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2019, 08:57:13 PM »
Nope.

As much as I abhor abortion this Alabama law will be struck down in the SCOTUS. The conservative judges see Roe as settled law. They are better off trying to limit abortion.


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Re: Time to review Roe v Wad?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2019, 09:15:51 PM »
Nope.

As much as I abhor abortion this Alabama law will be struck down in the SCOTUS. The conservative judges see Roe as settled law. They are better off trying to limit abortion.
Apparently they're arguing for States Rights.
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Re: Time to review Roe v Wad?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2019, 09:33:38 PM »
Apparently they're arguing for States Rights.

I would love that. I just don't see the SCOTUS overturning Roe. I think for that to happen someone needs to challenge the actual ruling on Roe because it was incredibly flawed.


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Re: Time to review Roe v Wad?
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2019, 07:31:08 AM »
I would love that. I just don't see the SCOTUS overturning Roe. I think for that to happen someone needs to challenge the actual ruling on Roe because it was incredibly flawed.
That's why the States Rights angle. The Fed had absolutely no right to get involved in the first place.
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Re: Time to review Roe v Wad?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2019, 08:48:18 AM »
Apparently they're arguing for States Rights.

The States simply folded when it came to Roe v Wade.

And yet when it comes to GUN RIGHTS the Feds folded.

There is no way in hell the Founders intended the insane menagerie of State and Local Gun Laws we see across America today.

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Re: Time to review Roe v Wad?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2019, 09:02:56 AM »
The States simply folded when it came to Roe v Wade.

And yet when it comes to GUN RIGHTS the Feds folded.

There is no way in hell the Founders intended the insane menagerie of State and Local Gun Laws we see across America today.
The Colonies agreed and signed the Compact that held the bill of Rights as the highest law of the land, and each consecutive State to follow, also agreed to the same Compact the Founding Colonies agreed upon, so in truth, these States are breaking Constitutional Law.
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Re: Time to review Roe v Wad?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2019, 09:15:25 PM »
The Colonies agreed and signed the Compact that held the bill of Rights as the highest law of the land, and each consecutive State to follow, also agreed to the same Compact the Founding Colonies agreed upon, so in truth, these States are breaking Constitutional Law.

Which means nothing when no one will prosecute.

THIS is where the Founding Fathers may have been sleeping on the job.

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Re: Time to review Roe v Wad?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2019, 09:24:51 PM »
Which means nothing when no one will prosecute.

THIS is where the Founding Fathers may have been sleeping on the job.
No, the Founders did it Right, it was Congress not holding them to their agreement when becoming States.
Every State had to agree to our Founding principles, including the bill of Rights, but somewhere along the way, greed and cowardice set in.
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