This #MeToo Nonsense is Going off the Rails...

Started by EvilWhiteMale, March 20, 2018, 10:19:30 AM

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EvilWhiteMale

Just wanted to weigh in with my opinion on the #MeToo movement. It's not about sympathy for rape victims, if you ask me. It's really about feminists and other leftists exacting systematic control over any manifestation of male sexuality. I've detailed my three main objections, complete with statistics and surveys, in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6JK1oiOPSk

(If it doesn't embed can someone please comment and tell me how to do it?)

Anyway, if you're too lazy to watch, my main objections are as follows:

The #MeToo Movement Lacks a Consistent Standard
What I mean by this is that when we are talking about sexual violence it is an absolute necessity that we draw some lines in the sand. We men especially need to know exactly what behaviour qualifies as appropriate, what behaviour qualifies as inappropriate and what behaviour qualifies as utterly unconscionable. We also need to know what exactly the MeToo movement is taking a stand against. Is MeToo only for rape victims? Or is it for abuse victims more generally, or what? Where is the line drawn?

The problem with MeToo is that the stories posted under its banner cover almost the entire spectrum of sexually undesirable behaviour, ranging from 'I was raped as a child' to 'someone winked at me on the bus'. And almost any negative sexual experience that could possibly be inflicted on a woman, so long as it's posted alongside that hashtag MeToo, is treated by the left with an almost identical, uniform degree of seriousness.

The truly terrible thing about this line of reasoning is that the voices of real victims - the ones whose stories are backed up with actual, prosecutable evidence - are being drowned out by spiteful feminist rants about 'mansplaining' or 'catcalling' that don't accomplish anything. Rape is being trivialised by the MeToo movement. It's getting to the point where the scope of what qualifies as sexual harassment is so broad that abuse is seen as a banality, something happens to all almost all women at some point in their lives.

(At this point I'd show some rape statistics to prove that there's no statistical grounds for a moral panic - check the video for these sources).

The #MeToo Movement Promotes Victimhood as a Virtue
What I mean by this is that the intended goal of any movement against rape or sexual violence should surely be to end rape or sexual violence, or to at least reduce it. But as MeToo's founder Tarana Burke said; MeToo is not about producing evidence, finding actual rapists and locking them up, no; it's about 'empowerment through empathy'.

It's about women at large coming together and soaking themselves in sympathy. The typical process of MeToo posting goes like this; a woman tweets her story of alleged sexual violence, almost always without naming her assailant or offering any supporting evidence whatsoever, and is then rewarded with adoring comments, likes and retweets. It's a process that clearly incentivises victimhood with its own reward scheme.

And when rape and sexual assault victims receive such an outpouring of sympathy and attention, it's only natural that those women who haven't been raped or assaulted in their lives are going to want a share of the victimhood as well. That's why we've seen the scope of what qualifies as sexually violent behaviour widen to the point that any woman who's been catcalled on the street is now regarded as equivalent to a victim of rape.

The #MeToo Movement Destroys Trust Between Men and Women
So, as I mentioned earlier, the MeToo movement offers no explanation whatsoever as to the boundaries of sexual consent. So long as a woman feels like she's been abused, regardless of what actually happened, that's all that matters. But if we men don't know what is acceptable and what is not, if we don't know what the rule is, then how are we supposed to abide by the rule?

Former US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice summed this effect up pretty well in my opinion. She said; 'Let's not turn women into snowflakes. Let's not infantilise women. I don't want it to get to a place where men start to think, well, maybe it's better to not have women around'.

And she's exactly right. I mean, it's getting to the point where a man can't even lean in for a kiss without the threat of a career-ending accusation surfacing at some point in the future. If this is what sexual relationships are going to be like from now on, then there's a reasonable argument to be made that men may as well just give up on women completely. It's just not worth the risk.

AndyJackson

Like every other liberal shuck & jive, it's created from nothing but bullshit, will eventually crash and burn in embarrassment, and they will then all slink away murmuring "nuh-uh did not it wasn't me I didn't say that".

Josey

This was a joke from the start. MOST were whores who slept with anyone with a pecker, then took the millions now are getting older and being shunned so they try to explain how or why they pimped their body out.
Attention whores from the beginning to the end.
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Crazy, but how it goes.
Millions of women, acting like ho's.
Baby, it's not to late.
To act like a lady, only sex on date.

Mental wounds not a real thing.
What a bitter shame.
It's going off the rails from the crazy blame.
It's going off the rails from the crazy blame.

Try listening to preachers, don't listen to fools.
Ignore all the dropouts, who attend liberal schools.
They are conditioned, to rule and control.
The media sells it, and you live the role.

Mental wounds not a real thing.
What a bitter shame.
It's going off the rails from the crazy blame.
It's going off the rails from the crazy blame.

We know that things are going wrong for you.
You gotta listen to my words, yeah, yeah.

Heirs of a social war, that's what you've become.
Inheriting troubles, you're mentally numb.
Crazy, you just cannot bear.
You're living with something, that just isn't fair.

Mental wounds not a real thing.
What a bitter shame.
It's going off the rails from the crazy blame.
It's going off the rails from the crazy blame.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

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Quote from: Josey on March 21, 2018, 05:08:42 AM
This was a joke from the start. MOST were whores who slept with anyone with a pecker, then took the millions now are getting older and being shunned so they try to explain how or why they pimped their body out.
Attention whores from the beginning to the end.
lol, yeah, now we've seen it all.  A bunch of broads who are on film screwing 6 guys, 3 goats, and 9 gerbils........... "virtue signaling" about the dirtiness of others.

And the left elevating them to the status of Rosa Parks.

Ass backwards and upside down, as expected 100% from the left these days.

Solar

Quote from: AndyJackson on March 22, 2018, 08:01:44 AM
lol, yeah, now we've seen it all.  A bunch of broads who are on film screwing 6 guys, 3 goats, and 9 gerbils........... "virtue signaling" about the dirtiness of others.

And the left elevating them to the status of Rosa Parks.

Ass backwards and upside down, as expected 100% from the left these days.
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Spot on Andy... :thumbsup:
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Quote from: EvilWhiteMale on March 20, 2018, 10:19:30 AM
Just wanted to weigh in with my opinion on the #MeToo movement. It's not about sympathy for rape victims, if you ask me. It's really about feminists and other leftists exacting systematic control over any manifestation of male sexuality. I've detailed my three main objections, complete with statistics and surveys, in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6JK1oiOPSk

(If it doesn't embed can someone please comment and tell me how to do it?)

Anyway, if you're too lazy to watch, my main objections are as follows:

The #MeToo Movement Lacks a Consistent Standard
What I mean by this is that when we are talking about sexual violence it is an absolute necessity that we draw some lines in the sand. We men especially need to know exactly what behaviour qualifies as appropriate, what behaviour qualifies as inappropriate and what behaviour qualifies as utterly unconscionable. We also need to know what exactly the MeToo movement is taking a stand against. Is MeToo only for rape victims? Or is it for abuse victims more generally, or what? Where is the line drawn?

The problem with MeToo is that the stories posted under its banner cover almost the entire spectrum of sexually undesirable behaviour, ranging from 'I was raped as a child' to 'someone winked at me on the bus'. And almost any negative sexual experience that could possibly be inflicted on a woman, so long as it's posted alongside that hashtag MeToo, is treated by the left with an almost identical, uniform degree of seriousness.

The truly terrible thing about this line of reasoning is that the voices of real victims - the ones whose stories are backed up with actual, prosecutable evidence - are being drowned out by spiteful feminist rants about 'mansplaining' or 'catcalling' that don't accomplish anything. Rape is being trivialised by the MeToo movement. It's getting to the point where the scope of what qualifies as sexual harassment is so broad that abuse is seen as a banality, something happens to all almost all women at some point in their lives.

(At this point I'd show some rape statistics to prove that there's no statistical grounds for a moral panic - check the video for these sources).

The #MeToo Movement Promotes Victimhood as a Virtue
What I mean by this is that the intended goal of any movement against rape or sexual violence should surely be to end rape or sexual violence, or to at least reduce it. But as MeToo's founder Tarana Burke said; MeToo is not about producing evidence, finding actual rapists and locking them up, no; it's about 'empowerment through empathy'.

It's about women at large coming together and soaking themselves in sympathy. The typical process of MeToo posting goes like this; a woman tweets her story of alleged sexual violence, almost always without naming her assailant or offering any supporting evidence whatsoever, and is then rewarded with adoring comments, likes and retweets. It's a process that clearly incentivises victimhood with its own reward scheme.

And when rape and sexual assault victims receive such an outpouring of sympathy and attention, it's only natural that those women who haven't been raped or assaulted in their lives are going to want a share of the victimhood as well. That's why we've seen the scope of what qualifies as sexually violent behaviour widen to the point that any woman who's been catcalled on the street is now regarded as equivalent to a victim of rape.

The #MeToo Movement Destroys Trust Between Men and Women
So, as I mentioned earlier, the MeToo movement offers no explanation whatsoever as to the boundaries of sexual consent. So long as a woman feels like she's been abused, regardless of what actually happened, that's all that matters. But if we men don't know what is acceptable and what is not, if we don't know what the rule is, then how are we supposed to abide by the rule?

Former US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice summed this effect up pretty well in my opinion. She said; 'Let's not turn women into snowflakes. Let's not infantilise women. I don't want it to get to a place where men start to think, well, maybe it's better to not have women around'.

And she's exactly right. I mean, it's getting to the point where a man can't even lean in for a kiss without the threat of a career-ending accusation surfacing at some point in the future. If this is what sexual relationships are going to be like from now on, then there's a reasonable argument to be made that men may as well just give up on women completely. It's just not worth the risk.

Great points, start to finish.  I see this as yet another opportunity for the left to emasculate men in general, white men in specificity.  Tucker Carlson is running a weekly segment on the topic of the deterioration of masculinity and male accomplishment we are seeing.  This is a very serious, even scary moment in time.  Evidence of the left's instilling a narrative of how men are inherently inadequate is shown in everyday commercials on radio and TV.  How many times have we seen or heard how the man screws something up or has no clue as to what do about a situation and the woman rescues him from his ignorance and incompetence?  "Oh, it's just a joke.  Can't you take a joke?" ...yeah except when it's done over and over and over, it ceases to be funny.  Current case in point - the teenage BOY has a car accident, goes and tells his parents lying in bed about it, the mom tells him no car for a month and the dad says nothing.  It was funny at first, yes. 

It started with punishing the poor if the dad was living in the house.  What do we have now?  All these fatherless homes.  How are the sons in these homes going to grow up with useful masculine values and principles without a dad?  Yeah, single moms often do a great job, but there is no way moms alone are going to raise responsible young adult men generally.  I see it everyday in the high school where I sub.  Boys with no direction, no goals of any consequence. 

Get the masculine men out of the way, and the left has whatever it wants, because there is no real resistance.  The MeToo movement may be a ridiculous whine-fest from women in many cases as we speak (and I guarantee the women they don't want men relegated to subservience if they know what's good for them), but it speaks of another increment the left is taking advantage of to rid this country of the conservative male. As you pointed out in your post, males are being intimidated by the movement right now for fear of doing the wrong thing and paying a huge price.       
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Solar

Quote from: EvilWhiteMale on March 20, 2018, 10:19:30 AM
Just wanted to weigh in with my opinion on the #MeToo movement. It's not about sympathy for rape victims, if you ask me. It's really about feminists and other leftists exacting systematic control over any manifestation of male sexuality. I've detailed my three main objections, complete with statistics and surveys, in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6JK1oiOPSk

(If it doesn't embed can someone please comment and tell me how to do it?)

Anyway, if you're too lazy to watch, my main objections are as follows:

The #MeToo Movement Lacks a Consistent Standard
What I mean by this is that when we are talking about sexual violence it is an absolute necessity that we draw some lines in the sand. We men especially need to know exactly what behaviour qualifies as appropriate, what behaviour qualifies as inappropriate and what behaviour qualifies as utterly unconscionable. We also need to know what exactly the MeToo movement is taking a stand against. Is MeToo only for rape victims? Or is it for abuse victims more generally, or what? Where is the line drawn?

The problem with MeToo is that the stories posted under its banner cover almost the entire spectrum of sexually undesirable behaviour, ranging from 'I was raped as a child' to 'someone winked at me on the bus'. And almost any negative sexual experience that could possibly be inflicted on a woman, so long as it's posted alongside that hashtag MeToo, is treated by the left with an almost identical, uniform degree of seriousness.

The truly terrible thing about this line of reasoning is that the voices of real victims - the ones whose stories are backed up with actual, prosecutable evidence - are being drowned out by spiteful feminist rants about 'mansplaining' or 'catcalling' that don't accomplish anything. Rape is being trivialised by the MeToo movement. It's getting to the point where the scope of what qualifies as sexual harassment is so broad that abuse is seen as a banality, something happens to all almost all women at some point in their lives.

(At this point I'd show some rape statistics to prove that there's no statistical grounds for a moral panic - check the video for these sources).

The #MeToo Movement Promotes Victimhood as a Virtue
What I mean by this is that the intended goal of any movement against rape or sexual violence should surely be to end rape or sexual violence, or to at least reduce it. But as MeToo's founder Tarana Burke said; MeToo is not about producing evidence, finding actual rapists and locking them up, no; it's about 'empowerment through empathy'.

It's about women at large coming together and soaking themselves in sympathy. The typical process of MeToo posting goes like this; a woman tweets her story of alleged sexual violence, almost always without naming her assailant or offering any supporting evidence whatsoever, and is then rewarded with adoring comments, likes and retweets. It's a process that clearly incentivises victimhood with its own reward scheme.

And when rape and sexual assault victims receive such an outpouring of sympathy and attention, it's only natural that those women who haven't been raped or assaulted in their lives are going to want a share of the victimhood as well. That's why we've seen the scope of what qualifies as sexually violent behaviour widen to the point that any woman who's been catcalled on the street is now regarded as equivalent to a victim of rape.

The #MeToo Movement Destroys Trust Between Men and Women
So, as I mentioned earlier, the MeToo movement offers no explanation whatsoever as to the boundaries of sexual consent. So long as a woman feels like she's been abused, regardless of what actually happened, that's all that matters. But if we men don't know what is acceptable and what is not, if we don't know what the rule is, then how are we supposed to abide by the rule?

Former US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice summed this effect up pretty well in my opinion. She said; 'Let's not turn women into snowflakes. Let's not infantilise women. I don't want it to get to a place where men start to think, well, maybe it's better to not have women around'.

And she's exactly right. I mean, it's getting to the point where a man can't even lean in for a kiss without the threat of a career-ending accusation surfacing at some point in the future. If this is what sexual relationships are going to be like from now on, then there's a reasonable argument to be made that men may as well just give up on women completely. It's just not worth the risk.
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Ignore them, tell them to essentially to, Fuck Off! One thing I've learned over my decades on this planet, is the media has been given way to much power, it is time to strip the left of the evil they have manifested, and the best way for this to happen is? Ignore them, tell them to shove it, that their opinion doesn't count.

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Quote from: Josey on March 21, 2018, 05:08:42 AM
This was a joke from the start. MOST were whores who slept with anyone with a pecker, then took the millions now are getting older and being shunned so they try to explain how or why they pimped their body out.
Attention whores from the beginning to the end.

Like Presidential Candidate Kamala Harris, who screwed her way to success. Its going to be interestig to see how the Dems spin that.
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