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Title: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 21, 2018, 09:29:38 AM
Truth is, Trump can release the memo at any time.

All classification by the U.S. government has no basis in laws passed by Congress (with one tiny exception that is irrelevant here). Rather, all classification is based on presidential executive orders, which rely on the president's constitutional role as commander in chief of the armed forces. According to the Supreme Court, the presidential power "to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from the constitutional investment of power in the president."

That means presidents can also declassify anything they chose to — for any reason or no reason — as they have done in the past. George W. Bush, under pressure in 2004, declassified the section of the 2001 presidential daily brief headlined "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." Barack Obama declassified the Justice Department memos produced during the Bush presidency on the legality of torture.

Here is SCOTUS ruling on Presidential Power.
Copy link and paste.

https://books.google.com/books?id=w_fiIQ20AIQC&lpg=PA15&ots=yxv7u8B89o&dq=%22authority%20to%20classify%20and%20control%20access%20to%
20information%20bearing%20on%20national%20security%22&pg=PA15#v=onepage&q=%22authority%20to%20classify%20and%20con&f=false

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-20/republicans-have-four-easy-ways-releasethememonot-doing-so-will-prove-them
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 21, 2018, 01:04:53 PM
Chairmen Devin Nunes & Trey Gowdy Plot "Never-Before-Used Procedure" To #ReleaseTheMemo


There's no doubt Republicans want the public to see the classified memo. To get it out, they are studying a never-before-used procedure whereby House Intelligence Committee members would vote to make the memo public, after which the president would have five days to object.

If the president had no objection, the memo would become public after those five days. If the president did object, the matter would go to the full House, which could vote to overrule the president's objections and release the memo anyway.

Republicans believe it is unlikely they would have to go that far; why would President Trump object to the release of a document allegedly showing that Obama administration officials abused the law in investigating Trump? But even if there were an objection, the feeling is the House would go ahead.

At this point, some Republicans would have a problem with their base if they didn't. The memo has become a subject of passionate interest among Trump supporters who are following the dossier investigation. The hashtag #releasethememo has been everywhere on Twitter, and Republican lawmakers have noticed.

So GOP sources expect the House will act soon, though the entire process could take two to three weeks. In the end, even if there is any reluctance among some members or leadership, voter interest is likely to prevail. "It's amazing what the pitchforks and the torches will do," said one lawmaker.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-amid-shutdown-house-gop-shows-intense-interest-in-trump-dossier-memo/article/2646598
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Rick on January 21, 2018, 01:24:41 PM
Two or three weeks. naa

It will be next week.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 21, 2018, 02:17:20 PM
Quote from: Rick on January 21, 2018, 01:24:41 PM
Two or three weeks. naa

It will be next week.
That's my thought as well, hit it while it's hot, burn the left to the ground sooner than later.
I still think we could see it as soon as Monday or Tuesday. (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 21, 2018, 02:29:48 PM
 :popcorn:


This is like the Proverbial Sword of Damocles hanging over the Dem's heads....who cares what is in it, as long as it sends them into hysterics....which apparently it has...its a good thing.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2018, 05:38:42 PM
Meanwhile...

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department has turned over to Congress additional text messages involving an FBI agent who was removed from special counsel Robert Mueller's investigative team following the discovery of derogatory comments about President Donald Trump.

But the department also said in a letter to lawmakers that its record of messages sent to and from the agent, Peter Strzok, was incomplete because the FBI, for technical reasons, had been unable to preserve and retrieve about five months' worth of communications.

New text messages highlighted in a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray by Sen. Ron Johnson, the Republican chairman of the Senate's Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, are from the spring and summer of 2016 and involve discussion of the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server. They reference Attorney General Loretta Lynch's decision to accept the FBI's conclusion in that case and a draft statement that former FBI Director James Comey had prepared in anticipation of closing out the Clinton investigation without criminal charges.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-texts-turned-over-fbi-agent-taken-off-161343170--politics.html

QuoteFormer Attorney General Loretta Lynch knew well in advance of FBI Director James Comey's 2016 press conference that he would recommend against charging Hillary Clinton, according to information turned over to the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Friday.

The revelation was included in 384 pages of text messages exchanged between FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, and it significantly diminishes the credibility of Lynch's earlier commitment to accept Comey's recommendation — a commitment she made under the pretense that the two were not coordinating with each other.

And it gets worse. Comey and Lynch reportedly knew that Clinton would never face charges even before the FBI conducted its three-hour interview with Clinton, which was supposedly meant to gather more information into her mishandling of classified information.

On July 1, 2016, as the Lynch announcement became public, Page texted Strzok:

    Page: And yeah, it's a real profile in couragw [sic], since she knows no charges will be brought.

There are other revelations within the text messages. But in the cover letter accompanying them, the FBI notified Congress that many additional text messages are missing. According to the FBI, its "technical system for retaining text messages sent and received on FBI mobile devices failed to preserve text messages for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page from December 14, 2016 to approximately to [sic] May 17, 2017."

The reason?

    (M)any FBI-provided Samsung 5 mobile devices did not capture or store text messages due to misconfiguration issues related to rollouts, provisioning, and software upgrades that conflicted with the FBI's collection capabilities. The result was that data that should have been automatically collected and retained for long-term storage and retrieval was not collected.

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/370019-was-lynch-coordinating-with-comey-in-the-clinton-investigation
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: taxed on January 21, 2018, 05:43:24 PM
Is this a late Christmas present, or an early one? I can't tell.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 21, 2018, 06:05:05 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 21, 2018, 02:29:48 PM
:popcorn:


This is like the Proverbial Sword of Damocles hanging over the Dem's heads....who cares what is in it, as long as it sends them into hysterics....which apparently it has...its a good thing.
:biggrin:
While suspended over a crocodile pit.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 21, 2018, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: taxed on January 21, 2018, 05:43:24 PM
Is this a late Christmas present, or an early one? I can't tell.
Santa had to get a jump on this coming December, what with all the goodies the DNC gave Trump to work with and all. :laugh:
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 21, 2018, 06:55:16 PM
Wouldn't it be a hoot if Trump read the Memo out loud and in its entirety at the State of the Union..... :popcorn:
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: walkstall on January 21, 2018, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 21, 2018, 06:55:16 PM
Wouldn't it be a hoot if Trump read the Memo out loud and in its entirety at the State of the Union..... :popcorn:


Let see how many Dem's would walk out.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2018, 07:38:56 PM
Quote from: walkstall on January 21, 2018, 07:03:13 PM

Let see how many Dem's would walk out.   :thumbsup:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

There would be no survivors on the left.
Title: Update
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2018, 11:37:55 AM
Unsealed FISA Court Ruling Shows 85% of Obama's FBI and DOJ 704-5 FISA Searches Were Illegal and Illegally Provided to Government Outsiders
A Report was released in April of 2017 that received no publicity until recently.
The report was a ruling on the results of an investigation or audit into FISA searches made by Obama's FBI and DOJ during Obama's time in office.
The report shows Obama's FBI and DOJ participated in widespread criminal searches and criminal sharing of data with non authorized entities outside of government.


On April 26, 2017, an unsealed FISA Court Ruling unveiled a number of criminal activities that Barack Obama's FBI and DOJ participated in during his time in office.  The report to date received little attention.  Now interest is brewing due to the recent actions of Congress and the report that is expected to be released in the upcoming weeks.

The FISA Court Ruling shows widespread abuse of the FISA mandate. According to the report, Obama's FBI and DOJ performed searches on Americans that were against their 4th Amendment rights.  This went on for years.  One paragraph in the report states that 85% of the Section 704 and 705(b) FISA searches made during this time were non-compliant with applicable laws and therefore criminal.
~~~MORE~~~

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/unsealed-fisa-court-ruling-shows-85-obamas-fbi-doj-704-5-fisa-searches-illegal-illegally-provided-government-outsiders/
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Hoofer on January 22, 2018, 02:42:34 PM
Suggestion to the Trump Administration if anyone is reading this.

READ THE MEMO for  the State of the Union Address!

... and, have plenty of cameras on the audience, particularly anyone who might be connected with names mentioned.   Just for good measure, instruct the Secret Service to keep everyone SEATED for the duration of the State of the Union Address - or they will be detained, after being singled out from the podium.   :ttoung:
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: supsalemgr on January 23, 2018, 04:21:55 AM
Adam Shiff (d) CA says the memo should not be released because the American people would not understand it. Yeah, sure.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: walkstall on January 23, 2018, 04:32:01 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 23, 2018, 04:21:55 AM
Adam Shiff (d) CA says the memo should not be released because the American people would not understand it. Yeah, sure.

And Adam Shiff thinks we are dumb.   :lol:
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 23, 2018, 04:33:40 AM
Quote from: walkstall on January 23, 2018, 04:32:01 AM
And Adam Shiff thinks we are dumb.   :lol:


Isn't that sort of like "we have to pass it to see whats in it"
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: walkstall on January 23, 2018, 04:35:23 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 23, 2018, 04:33:40 AM

Isn't that sort of like "we have to pass it to see whats in it"

And these people are running the government. 
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: topside on January 23, 2018, 05:27:24 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 23, 2018, 04:21:55 AM
Adam Shiff (d) CA says the memo should not be released because the American people would not understand it. Yeah, sure.

Adam ... oh, why don't you just let us give it a try. Maybe it's you who doesn't understand.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 24, 2018, 05:59:31 AM
Too Funny! :biggrin:

Democrats Demand Twitter, Facebook Crackdown On #ReleaseTheMemo "Russian Bots", There Is Just One Problem...

Last week, a four page memo detailing FBI abuse of FISA warrants against the Trump campaign was circulated within the US House of Representatives
Amid calls from several Congressional Republicans, the hashtag #ReleaseTheMemo immediately went viral
In an effort to downplay genuine public concern, a "Russian propaganda" tracking website used primarily by Democrats and Neoconservatives has suggested that #ReleaseTheMemo went viral thanks to Russian bots
California Reps. Dianne Feinstein and Adam Schiff sent a letter to Facebook and Twitter CEO's on Tuesday, asking that they take action against the Russian scourge
Meanwhile, Twitter's internal analysis of the hashtag has thus far found that authentic American accounts, not Russians, are driving #ReleaseTheMemo.


(https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/release_0.PNG)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-23/democrats-demand-twitter-facebook-crackdown-releasethememo-russian-bots-there-just
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: AndyJackson on January 24, 2018, 08:14:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 24, 2018, 05:59:31 AM
Too Funny! :biggrin:

Democrats Demand Twitter, Facebook Crackdown On #ReleaseTheMemo "Russian Bots", There Is Just One Problem...

Last week, a four page memo detailing FBI abuse of FISA warrants against the Trump campaign was circulated within the US House of Representatives
Amid calls from several Congressional Republicans, the hashtag #ReleaseTheMemo immediately went viral
In an effort to downplay genuine public concern, a "Russian propaganda" tracking website used primarily by Democrats and Neoconservatives has suggested that #ReleaseTheMemo went viral thanks to Russian bots
California Reps. Dianne Feinstein and Adam Schiff sent a letter to Facebook and Twitter CEO's on Tuesday, asking that they take action against the Russian scourge
Meanwhile, Twitter's internal analysis of the hashtag has thus far found that authentic American accounts, not Russians, are driving #ReleaseTheMemo.


(https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/release_0.PNG)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-23/democrats-demand-twitter-facebook-crackdown-releasethememo-russian-bots-there-just

There will never be an end to their fake events, claims, and accusations, in response to them being caught for so many crimes.

There's nothing else for them now, that's all they have left.

I know it's fun to watch them squirm and lie endlessly, and pile one crime on top of the other.

But it's already been done ad nauseum.  We don't need anymore of it.  Trying to pile more and more onto the case will just mean 40 years sentences instead of 20.

Thanks, but I'll take the 20 this week, for about 100 people.  Put a moratorium on new stuff and prosecute what's in hand NOW.

Strike while the fire is hot, don't give these people another second with which to blackmail, connive, threaten, "lose" e-mails, etc.

I actually worry that more time means more possibility of them sneaking away in the night.  That's really what their best and biggest skill set is.  Why give them another wide-open year to do it ?

Brevity and finality is what's needed now.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Sauce on January 24, 2018, 08:45:23 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 24, 2018, 08:14:50 AM
There will never be an end to their fake events, claims, and accusations, in response to them being caught for so many crimes.

There's nothing else for them now, that's all they have left.

I know it's fun to watch them squirm and lie endlessly, and pile one crime on top of the other.

But it's already been done ad nauseum.  We don't need anymore of it.  Trying to pile more and more onto the case will just mean 40 years sentences instead of 20.

Thanks, but I'll take the 20 this week, for about 100 people.  Put a moratorium on new stuff and prosecute what's in hand NOW.

Strike while the fire is hot, don't give these people another second with which to blackmail, connive, threaten, "lose" e-mails, etc.

I actually worry that more time means more possibility of them sneaking away in the night.  That's really what their best and biggest skill set is.  Why give them another wide-open year to do it ?

Brevity and finality is what's needed now.

Yep....pretty sure this has legitimate legs and I agree that I hope they aren't being too cute for words parsing this out so slowly...  I will hope this is at least enough to blow up the Mueller investigation and blunt the Dems going into the midterms and hopefully the 2020 presidential election.

If anything comes from the Q stuff I will be overjoyed... but for now I will remain skeptical, but follow it intently :popcorn:
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 24, 2018, 09:10:45 AM
Quote from: Sauce on January 24, 2018, 08:45:23 AM
Yep....pretty sure this has legitimate legs and I agree that I hope they aren't being too cute for words parsing this out so slowly...  I will hope this is at least enough to blow up the Mueller investigation and blunt the Dems going into the midterms and hopefully the 2020 presidential election.

If anything comes from the Q stuff I will be overjoyed... but for now I will remain skeptical, but follow it intently :popcorn:
And so you should be.

The whole purpose behind Q` is to keep the base informed that things are actually happening behind the scenes, nothing more.
Q`gave us a heads up to the Atlanta fire prior to it's taking place and all those corresponding airport fires and the reason behind them, this was a great service to the people as well as exposing just how much and how fast they were moving in rounding these people up.
Title: Heres the WAPOs version of All thats happenning with the FBI
Post by: Sauce on January 24, 2018, 10:55:58 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/your-guide-to-the-anti-fbi-conspiracy-theories-rippling-through-conservative-media/ar-AAv6fMn?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/your-guide-to-the-anti-fbi-conspiracy-theories-rippling-through-conservative-media/ar-AAv6fMn?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz)


Interesting read what the lefts current talking points on these issues are.....


Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: SueAnn on January 24, 2018, 11:30:28 AM
Quote from: topside on January 23, 2018, 05:27:24 AM
Adam ... oh, why don't you just let us give it a try. Maybe it's you who doesn't understand.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: AndyJackson on January 24, 2018, 02:19:27 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/your-guide-to-the-anti-fbi-conspiracy-theories-rippling-through-conservative-media/ar-AAv6fMn?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz


Yeah, I've actually seen the claim "these accusations against the FBI must be investigated and prosecuted".

It doesn't get any lower or more infantile than that.

Do crime after crime after crime.............. then scream that anybody who exposes it needs to be investigated and prosecuted.

Well, despite it being insufferably infantile....... it's straight out of Alinsky, so there's that.

When cornered by the facts and evidence......... shit your pants.  It just might work.  Decent, dignified people may stagger away in disgust, and forget to arrest you.
Title: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: Sauce on January 24, 2018, 06:49:44 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-congress/u-s-democrats-draft-own-memo-in-partisan-spat-over-trump-russia-probe-idUSKBN1FD35V (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-congress/u-s-democrats-draft-own-memo-in-partisan-spat-over-trump-russia-probe-idUSKBN1FD35V)


Too funny :lol:
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 24, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: Sauce on January 24, 2018, 06:49:44 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-congress/u-s-democrats-draft-own-memo-in-partisan-spat-over-trump-russia-probe-idUSKBN1FD35V (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-congress/u-s-democrats-draft-own-memo-in-partisan-spat-over-trump-russia-probe-idUSKBN1FD35V)


Too funny :lol:

They have been reduced to "My memo can beat up your memo".
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: walkstall on January 24, 2018, 07:46:28 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 24, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
They have been reduced to "My memo can beat up your memo".

NOW they talk about the law.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:   :lol:
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: AndyJackson on January 25, 2018, 11:37:55 AM
Quote from: Sauce on January 24, 2018, 06:49:44 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-congress/u-s-democrats-draft-own-memo-in-partisan-spat-over-trump-russia-probe-idUSKBN1FD35V (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-congress/u-s-democrats-draft-own-memo-in-partisan-spat-over-trump-russia-probe-idUSKBN1FD35V)


Too funny :lol:
It's starting to feel like they are reduced to just knuckle-head stuff, hoping to just create one more day at a time. Any type of, or amount of stall, hoping that Mueller can create something that stops Trump before he can oversee the Coup de Grace on them.  Big pressure on Mueller.  Unless as has been rumored, Trump secretly flipped him from day 1.  Another potential jolt in the ass that the dems don't know is coming.

It's actually resembling one of those down-to-the-last-minute, nail-biters.  Though Trump holds all the cards.  Mueller has nothing that can actually stop Trump cold, Trump quite the opposite, vs. Mueller.
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 25, 2018, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 25, 2018, 11:37:55 AM
It's starting to feel like they are reduced to just knuckle-head stuff, hoping to just create one more day at a time. Any type of, or amount of stall, hoping that Mueller can create something that stops Trump before he can oversee the Coup de Grace on them.  Big pressure on Mueller.  Unless as has been rumored, Trump secretly flipped him from day 1.  Another potential jolt in the ass that the dems don't know is coming.

It's actually resembling one of those down-to-the-last-minute, nail-biters.  Though Trump holds all the cards.  Mueller has nothing that can actually stop Trump cold, Trump quite the opposite, vs. Mueller.


Interesting concept that Mueller may have been a Trump plant all along, as I've said before, Mueller's investigation has brought out more Dem wrongdoings than anything else.

Recently Trump VOLUNTEERED to answer questions under oath to Mueller....I'd love to hear what Trump says
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: Possum on January 25, 2018, 02:44:22 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 25, 2018, 02:34:07 PM

Interesting concept that Mueller may have been a Trump plant all along, as I've said before, Mueller's investigation has brought out more Dem wrongdoings than anything else.

Recently Trump VOLUNTEERED to answer questions under oath to Mueller....I'd love to hear what Trump says
Before it is all said and done, I expect mueller to have to answer questions under oath.
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2018, 02:49:53 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 25, 2018, 02:34:07 PM

Interesting concept that Mueller may have been a Trump plant all along, as I've said before, Mueller's investigation has brought out more Dem wrongdoings than anything else.

Recently Trump VOLUNTEERED to answer questions under oath to Mueller....I'd love to hear what Trump says
That's the opinion of the Q crowd, that Mueller is actually doing a good job of exposing the left.
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: Possum on January 25, 2018, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 25, 2018, 02:49:53 PM
That's the opinion of the Q crowd, that Mueller is actually doing a good job of exposing the left.
He's exposing what we knew all along. Where are the indictments? Looks like mueller is cut from the same cloth as comey. This will backfire on him.
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2018, 02:54:45 PM
Quote from: s3779m on January 25, 2018, 02:52:47 PM
He's exposing what we knew all along. Where are the indictments? Looks like mueller is cut from the same cloth as comey. This will backfire on him.
There are more than ten thousand sealed indictments, and I'm certain many came from Mueller's investigation.
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: Possum on January 25, 2018, 02:56:09 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 25, 2018, 02:54:45 PM
There are more than ten thousand sealed indictments, and I'm certain many came from Mueller's investigation.
Well, glad I asked. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2018, 03:09:59 PM
Quote from: s3779m on January 25, 2018, 02:56:09 PM
Well, glad I asked. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :lol: :lol:
:laugh:
Trump has been very busy this year. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Dems releasing a anti memo memo
Post by: AndyJackson on January 25, 2018, 03:38:23 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 25, 2018, 02:34:07 PM

Interesting concept that Mueller may have been a Trump plant all along, as I've said before, Mueller's investigation has brought out more Dem wrongdoings than anything else.

Recently Trump VOLUNTEERED to answer questions under oath to Mueller....I'd love to hear what Trump says
Lots of opinions out there that the Mueller-Trump interview before the FBI slot was filled, was not about that, but simply bringing Mueller on as a secret plant as SC.

Trump may have a lot of bad stuff on Mueller, including Uranium 1 in various ways.  Could have offered him an out.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 28, 2018, 05:43:06 AM

President Trump broke with top officials at the Justice Department and called for the release of a classified memo purported to list Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuses by the U.S. government, The Washington Post reported Saturday.

Despite warnings from top officials at the agency, Trump reportedly told Attorney General Jeff Sessions through Chief of Staff John Kelly that he wants to see the memo released, believing that it will shed light on the special counsel investigation.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/371066-trump-broke-with-justice-dept-called-for-release-of-memo-report
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 28, 2018, 06:25:22 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 28, 2018, 05:43:06 AM
President Trump broke with top officials at the Justice Department and called for the release of a classified memo purported to list Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuses by the U.S. government, The Washington Post reported Saturday.

Despite warnings from top officials at the agency, Trump reportedly told Attorney General Jeff Sessions through Chief of Staff John Kelly that he wants to see the memo released, believing that it will shed light on the special counsel investigation.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/371066-trump-broke-with-justice-dept-called-for-release-of-memo-report


I hope he reads it out loud at the State of the Union
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 28, 2018, 06:28:44 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 28, 2018, 06:25:22 AM

I hope he reads it out loud at the State of the Union
A lot of people have been saying that for the last couple of weeks, even some Pubs.
Can you imagine, every libs head would explode. :laugh:
Title: Possible vote on memo at 5pm Monday
Post by: Sauce on January 28, 2018, 06:27:39 PM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-house-intel-meets-monday-memo-vote-possible-sessions-softening/article/2647342 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-house-intel-meets-monday-memo-vote-possible-sessions-softening/article/2647342)


Sundance at CTH speculates if and when this all blows up....

Quote"parallel intelligence construct, that could, if handled correctly,  likely operate in a similar fashion to the NSA hub, temporarily, while the necessary watching of the watchers was taking place..."

This is was allagedley/possibly part of a security agreement with SA

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/28/house-intel-committee-voting-monday-500pm-to-release-memo/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/28/house-intel-committee-voting-monday-500pm-to-release-memo/)




Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Sauce on January 29, 2018, 08:49:43 AM
Rep.Trey  Gowdy discussing content of memo on Fox News Sunday

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/01/28/trey-gowdy-hints-at-what-damning-information-is-found-in-secret-fisa-memo (https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/01/28/trey-gowdy-hints-at-what-damning-information-is-found-in-secret-fisa-memo)


Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 29, 2018, 04:38:09 PM
Done deal............... :popcorn:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-scrambling-to-get-more-info-on-explosive-nunes-memo-ahead-of-vote-to-release-it
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 31, 2018, 07:24:08 AM
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Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: supsalemgr on January 31, 2018, 07:58:20 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 31, 2018, 07:24:08 AM
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Note the silence from the WH. I think Trump just may be letting more rope out to the democrats.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 31, 2018, 08:18:27 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 31, 2018, 07:58:20 AM
Note the silence from the WH. I think Trump just may be letting more rope out to the democrats.
Word is, the moment he's given the memo, he's releasing it.
Ya know, from day one, Trump stole the narrative, never once giving the left time to come up for air, this continued for months, then he began attacking as well, and now the left is in complete disarray.
Add to all of this, the Memo, kind of like a stake through the heart of a vampire, and he has only just begun.

I never, in my wildest dreams thought a POTUS could pull this off, especially considering his own party is a bigger impediment than that of the Dim party.
When he finishes with the Dims, he'll most definitely set his sights on the Establishment RINO.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 31, 2018, 08:24:53 AM
Another Dossier? Could the left shoot any more of their feet? :biggrin:

in October 2016 by former UK spy Christopher Steele, according to reporting by theGuardian, one day after the House Intel Committee voted to release the confidential and "shocking" FISA memo to the public.

This "second dossier" was authored by Cody Shearer, a former journalist and political activist for the Clinton White House in the 1990s. According to the Guardian, it confirms Steele's claim that Trump was "compromised" by the Russian intelligence in 2013, during a trip to Moscow that involved "lewd acts" at a five-star hotel.

Cody Shearer cites an unnamed source within Russia's Security Service (FSB) for his claims, meaning that both anti-Trump dossiers tied to Hillary Clinton used Russian disinformation to discredit and undermine a candidate for U.S. President.

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Cody Shearer (Youtube screen grab)
Citing a "source with knowledge of the inquiry," the Guardian reported that the FBI was "still working on" the Shearer dossier, suggesting the bureau was taking at least some of it seriously. "It raises the possibility that parts of the Steele dossier, which has been derided by Trump's supporters, may have been corroborated by Shearer's research, or could still be," wrote the Guardian's Stephanie Kirchgaessner and Nick Hopkins.

Shearer's name recently appeared in a January 25 letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee to six individuals or entities thought to be involved in the funding, creation or distribution of the original salacious and unverified "Trump-Russia Dossier." Recipients of the letter - including John Podesta, Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz - are asked to submit all communications between a list of 40 individuals or entities, one of whom is Cody Shearer.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-30/second-trump-dossier-emerges-one-day-after-fisa-memo-vote
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 31, 2018, 10:05:40 AM
The right TIMING is everything....he is going to wait until their heads stop spinning and vomiting green bile over last nights SOTU, he'll strike at the appropriate moment as soon as some leftist idiot starts talking about "Russia" again.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: AndyJackson on January 31, 2018, 10:36:28 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 31, 2018, 07:58:20 AM
Note the silence from the WH. I think Trump just may be letting more rope out to the democrats.
I still don't really think Trump's a genius or anything, but the amount that he is smarter and cagier and more shrewd than the dems...... is staggering.  It doesn't help that so many of them have gone full angry child.

It seems almost unfair, a grown man walking all over a bunch of people who seem to have the mind of a child.

It's also a crazy example of group mania.  The Obama / Hillary machine actually convinced millions that they would always get their way forever now, in social and political matters.  And that there were no constraints on them, they could act as childishly and illegally as they wanted, and they would never suffer any consequences.  Because their cause is so righteous that no method is wrong, just like stopping Hitler.

Sadly, those who fell for it totally are the rank and file dems, the intel thugs, and millions of stumblebums on the street.  They're now suffering some sort of schizo break, where they can't accept or understand their sudden loss of privileges and no-rules.

I believe this, and I believe they were conditioned by the Obama - Hillary machine to fall through this hole.  It's fascinating; I wonder if anybody is actually studying / documenting it.

Look at the way 40-90 year-olds acted last night.  It's almost unimaginable.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on January 31, 2018, 10:38:50 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 31, 2018, 10:05:40 AM
The right TIMING is everything....he is going to wait until their heads stop spinning and vomiting green bile over last nights SOTU, he'll strike at the appropriate moment as soon as some leftist idiot starts talking about "Russia" again.
:biggrin:
Spot on! Trump has masterfully manipulated the media, and what better way to knock them flat on their collective Marxist asses again?
Releasing the MEMO.
He has yet to relent on these scum, I don't ever see him letting up till they're crushed, and even then, he'll twist the blade..
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: cubs2016 on February 01, 2018, 06:31:22 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 31, 2018, 08:18:27 AM
Word is, the moment he's given the memo, he's releasing it.
Ya know, from day one, Trump stole the narrative, never once giving the left time to come up for air, this continued for months, then he began attacking as well, and now the left is in complete disarray.
Add to all of this, the Memo, kind of like a stake through the heart of a vampire, and he has only just begun.

I never, in my wildest dreams thought a POTUS could pull this off, especially considering his own party is a bigger impediment than that of the Dim party.
When he finishes with the Dims, he'll most definitely set his sights on the Establishment RINO.

I'll second that.  Here in TN, we're going to be rid of Corker (good riddance) and get Marsha Blackburn (she'll be tabbed a racist by her name, I'm sure), who has a record of conservative principles.  Next needs to be Lamar Alexander.  Arizona has a good chance to improve the Senate also. 
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on February 01, 2018, 08:59:35 AM
Thinking about the memo and best time for release might be Monday or Tuesday, considering Trump still has some mileage to get out of the SOTU speech through the weekend.
Why dump it today or Friday where it would get ignored because most people tune out on the weekend, so Monday or Tuesday makes much more sense, assuming nothing else hits between now and then, like the LSM generating "Fake News" as a distraction in the interim.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: supsalemgr on February 01, 2018, 09:32:00 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 01, 2018, 08:59:35 AM
Thinking about the memo and best time for release might be Monday or Tuesday, considering Trump still has some mileage to get out of the SOTU speech through the weekend.
Why dump it today or Friday where it would get ignored because most people tune out on the weekend, so Monday or Tuesday makes much more sense, assuming nothing else hits between now and then, like the LSM generating "Fake News" as a distraction in the interim.

Thoughts?

I tend to agree. The way Schiff and the democrats are tying themselves in knots over the release Trump should give them more rope. To me their visceral protests are very telling.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Sauce on February 01, 2018, 09:32:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 01, 2018, 08:59:35 AM
Thinking about the memo and best time for release might be Monday or Tuesday, considering Trump still has some mileage to get out of the SOTU speech through the weekend.
Why dump it today or Friday where it would get ignored because most people tune out on the weekend, so Monday or Tuesday makes much more sense, assuming nothing else hits between now and then, like the LSM generating "Fake News" as a distraction in the interim.

Thoughts?

Looks like it will go back to committee to OK the punctuation edits Schifface is up in arms about..given that most members are on the retreat supposedly, that means it wouldn't be released till late Friday before the Super Bowl.


So I would agree it would be best to let it simmer till Post super bowl Tuesday.

....lest hope a Obama judge doesn't grant some kind of injunction between now and then
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Sauce on February 01, 2018, 09:38:05 AM
...also, did ya read the letter Phuglosie sent Ryan asking for Nunes's head?

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/371825-pelosi-calls-on-ryan-to-oust-nunes-over-bogus-memo (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/371825-pelosi-calls-on-ryan-to-oust-nunes-over-bogus-memo)



.....and so is Scmucky

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/371830-schumer-ryan-must-remove-nunes-as-intel-chairman (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/371830-schumer-ryan-must-remove-nunes-as-intel-chairman)
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: supsalemgr on February 01, 2018, 11:29:30 AM
Quote from: Sauce on February 01, 2018, 09:38:05 AM
...also, did ya read the letter Phuglosie sent Ryan asking for Nunes's head?

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/371825-pelosi-calls-on-ryan-to-oust-nunes-over-bogus-memo (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/371825-pelosi-calls-on-ryan-to-oust-nunes-over-bogus-memo)



.....and so is Scmucky

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/371830-schumer-ryan-must-remove-nunes-as-intel-chairman (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/371830-schumer-ryan-must-remove-nunes-as-intel-chairman)

Pandering to the base. Best ignored.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: AndyJackson on February 01, 2018, 04:39:33 PM
There's no good reason to delay this.  We've already seen the dems get suckered into making themselves look worse and worse and worse endlessly.

More delay just means more time for something bizarre to happen that will actually put it in limbo.  Some huge disaster, FF or not, and they may all just say "oh gosh this is no time for rancor, better put this on hold for 6 months".  Or some dumbass Obama judge doing something stupid that Trump doesn't want to squash and look like Hitler.  Just let THAT run it's course for 5-6 months.

Put the GD thing out in the next 5 minutes.  Stop trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Cryptic Bert on February 01, 2018, 05:41:11 PM
My question is how much of it will be redacted and will they release the underlying documents.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Sauce on February 02, 2018, 05:01:41 AM
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/959171613424955392.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/959171613424955392.html)

Interesting take on the memo, Flynn's sentencing delay and what might be the real end game of the Mueller investigation.

I remember a few on the forum throwing a similar scenario out there awhile back.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on February 02, 2018, 05:39:55 AM
Quote from: Sauce on February 02, 2018, 05:01:41 AM
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/959171613424955392.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/959171613424955392.html)

Interesting take on the memo, Flynn's sentencing delay and what might be the real end game of the Mueller investigation.

I remember a few on the forum throwing a similar scenario out there awhile back.
Good find. You're right, I did say Mueller is still there because he is doing Trump's bidding.
Everyone knows Trump was innocent from the start and had nothing to worry about, so why not let the investigation continue?
It's not as if they'll get anything on Trump, but obviously, they're finding shit loads on Dims, and once the evidence is released, it'll stick like glue, because Mueller is a Dim, appointed by Dims.
And the Flynn claim is spot on, Flynn is a Patriot and said what he said, to protect the Nation, not CYA.

God, Q is Right, these people truly are stupid.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: taxed on February 02, 2018, 09:37:57 AM
Here 'tis.

https://www.scribd.com/document/370598711/House-Intelligence-Committee-Report-On-FISA-Abuses#from_embed
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on February 02, 2018, 09:52:27 AM
Quote from: taxed on February 02, 2018, 09:37:57 AM
Here 'tis.

https://www.scribd.com/document/370598711/House-Intelligence-Committee-Report-On-FISA-Abuses#from_embed
You beat me to it by a couple of minutes, so I posted your link and all the pages of the memo.
Thanks.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on February 02, 2018, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: mrclose on February 02, 2018, 04:55:58 PM
BREAKING: Senate Judiciary Committee to Release Memo on FBI, Christopher Steele and Russia Dossier

http://www.thegate
Gowdy is on the inside and knows more than is being released.

More
#BREAKING: White House spokesman says no changes will be made at the Justice Department following release of Republican memo on Russia probe critical of the department - Reuters
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Cryptic Bert on February 02, 2018, 07:59:38 PM
From the beginning Trump has stated he won't remove anyone. He must be pretty confident.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: Solar on February 03, 2018, 04:06:28 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 02, 2018, 07:59:38 PM
From the beginning Trump has stated he won't remove anyone. He must be pretty confident.
Yep, never interfere with your enemy when he is in the process of exposing all of their own crimes.
Title: Re: The Memo
Post by: supsalemgr on February 03, 2018, 04:33:42 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 02, 2018, 07:59:38 PM
From the beginning Trump has stated he won't remove anyone. He must be pretty confident.

The democrats are trying to goad Trump into firing Rosentein to keep their narrative going. He just put him a coner cubicle with no influence and the goal is accomplished.