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The Memo
« on: January 21, 2018, 09:29:38 AM »
Truth is, Trump can release the memo at any time.

All classification by the U.S. government has no basis in laws passed by Congress (with one tiny exception that is irrelevant here). Rather, all classification is based on presidential executive orders, which rely on the president’s constitutional role as commander in chief of the armed forces. According to the Supreme Court, the presidential power “to classify and control access to information bearing on national security … flows primarily from the constitutional investment of power in the president.”

That means presidents can also declassify anything they chose to — for any reason or no reason — as they have done in the past. George W. Bush, under pressure in 2004, declassified the section of the 2001 presidential daily brief headlined “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” Barack Obama declassified the Justice Department memos produced during the Bush presidency on the legality of torture.

Here is SCOTUS ruling on Presidential Power.
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https://books.google.com/books?id=w_fiIQ20AIQC&lpg=PA15&ots=yxv7u8B89o&dq=%22authority%20to%20classify%20and%20control%20access%20to%
20information%20bearing%20on%20national%20security%22&pg=PA15#v=onepage&q=%22authority%20to%20classify%20and%20con&f=false

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-20/republicans-have-four-easy-ways-releasethememonot-doing-so-will-prove-them
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2018, 01:04:53 PM »
Chairmen Devin Nunes & Trey Gowdy Plot “Never-Before-Used Procedure” To #ReleaseTheMemo


There's no doubt Republicans want the public to see the classified memo. To get it out, they are studying a never-before-used procedure whereby House Intelligence Committee members would vote to make the memo public, after which the president would have five days to object.

If the president had no objection, the memo would become public after those five days. If the president did object, the matter would go to the full House, which could vote to overrule the president's objections and release the memo anyway.

Republicans believe it is unlikely they would have to go that far; why would President Trump object to the release of a document allegedly showing that Obama administration officials abused the law in investigating Trump? But even if there were an objection, the feeling is the House would go ahead.

At this point, some Republicans would have a problem with their base if they didn't. The memo has become a subject of passionate interest among Trump supporters who are following the dossier investigation. The hashtag #releasethememo has been everywhere on Twitter, and Republican lawmakers have noticed.

So GOP sources expect the House will act soon, though the entire process could take two to three weeks. In the end, even if there is any reluctance among some members or leadership, voter interest is likely to prevail. "It's amazing what the pitchforks and the torches will do," said one lawmaker.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-amid-shutdown-house-gop-shows-intense-interest-in-trump-dossier-memo/article/2646598
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2018, 01:24:41 PM »
Two or three weeks. naa

It will be next week.

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Re: The Memo
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2018, 02:17:20 PM »
Two or three weeks. naa

It will be next week.
That's my thought as well, hit it while it's hot, burn the left to the ground sooner than later.
I still think we could see it as soon as Monday or Tuesday. (fingers crossed)
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2018, 02:29:48 PM »
 :popcorn:


This is like the Proverbial Sword of Damocles hanging over the Dem's heads....who cares what is in it, as long as it sends them into hysterics....which apparently it has...its a good thing.
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2018, 05:38:42 PM »
Meanwhile...

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department has turned over to Congress additional text messages involving an FBI agent who was removed from special counsel Robert Mueller's investigative team following the discovery of derogatory comments about President Donald Trump.

But the department also said in a letter to lawmakers that its record of messages sent to and from the agent, Peter Strzok, was incomplete because the FBI, for technical reasons, had been unable to preserve and retrieve about five months' worth of communications.

New text messages highlighted in a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray by Sen. Ron Johnson, the Republican chairman of the Senate's Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, are from the spring and summer of 2016 and involve discussion of the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server. They reference Attorney General Loretta Lynch's decision to accept the FBI's conclusion in that case and a draft statement that former FBI Director James Comey had prepared in anticipation of closing out the Clinton investigation without criminal charges.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-texts-turned-over-fbi-agent-taken-off-161343170--politics.html

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Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch knew well in advance of FBI Director James Comey's 2016 press conference that he would recommend against charging Hillary Clinton, according to information turned over to the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Friday.
 
The revelation was included in 384 pages of text messages exchanged between FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, and it significantly diminishes the credibility of Lynch's earlier commitment to accept Comey's recommendation — a commitment she made under the pretense that the two were not coordinating with each other.
 
And it gets worse. Comey and Lynch reportedly knew that Clinton would never face charges even before the FBI conducted its three-hour interview with Clinton, which was supposedly meant to gather more information into her mishandling of classified information.
 
On July 1, 2016, as the Lynch announcement became public, Page texted Strzok:

    Page: And yeah, it’s a real profile in couragw [sic], since she knows no charges will be brought.

There are other revelations within the text messages. But in the cover letter accompanying them, the FBI notified Congress that many additional text messages are missing. According to the FBI, its “technical system for retaining text messages sent and received on FBI mobile devices failed to preserve text messages for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page from December 14, 2016 to approximately to [sic] May 17, 2017.”
 
The reason?

    (M)any FBI-provided Samsung 5 mobile devices did not capture or store text messages due to misconfiguration issues related to rollouts, provisioning, and software upgrades that conflicted with the FBI’s collection capabilities. The result was that data that should have been automatically collected and retained for long-term storage and retrieval was not collected.

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/370019-was-lynch-coordinating-with-comey-in-the-clinton-investigation
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2018, 05:43:24 PM »
Is this a late Christmas present, or an early one? I can't tell.

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Re: The Memo
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2018, 06:05:05 PM »
:popcorn:


This is like the Proverbial Sword of Damocles hanging over the Dem's heads....who cares what is in it, as long as it sends them into hysterics....which apparently it has...its a good thing.
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2018, 06:16:56 PM »
Is this a late Christmas present, or an early one? I can't tell.
Santa had to get a jump on this coming December, what with all the goodies the DNC gave Trump to work with and all. :laugh:
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2018, 06:55:16 PM »
Wouldn't it be a hoot if Trump read the Memo out loud and in its entirety at the State of the Union..... :popcorn:
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2018, 07:03:13 PM »
Wouldn't it be a hoot if Trump read the Memo out loud and in its entirety at the State of the Union..... :popcorn:


Let see how many Dem's would walk out.   :thumbsup:
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2018, 07:38:56 PM »

Let see how many Dem's would walk out.   :thumbsup:

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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 11:37:55 AM »
Unsealed FISA Court Ruling Shows 85% of Obama’s FBI and DOJ 704-5 FISA Searches Were Illegal and Illegally Provided to Government Outsiders
A Report was released in April of 2017 that received no publicity until recently.
The report was a ruling on the results of an investigation or audit into FISA searches made by Obama’s FBI and DOJ during Obama’s time in office.
The report shows Obama’s FBI and DOJ participated in widespread criminal searches and criminal sharing of data with non authorized entities outside of government.


On April 26, 2017, an unsealed FISA Court Ruling unveiled a number of criminal activities that Barack Obama’s FBI and DOJ participated in during his time in office.  The report to date received little attention.  Now interest is brewing due to the recent actions of Congress and the report that is expected to be released in the upcoming weeks.

The FISA Court Ruling shows widespread abuse of the FISA mandate. According to the report, Obama’s FBI and DOJ performed searches on Americans that were against their 4th Amendment rights.  This went on for years.  One paragraph in the report states that 85% of the Section 704 and 705(b) FISA searches made during this time were non-compliant with applicable laws and therefore criminal.
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/unsealed-fisa-court-ruling-shows-85-obamas-fbi-doj-704-5-fisa-searches-illegal-illegally-provided-government-outsiders/
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 02:42:34 PM »
Suggestion to the Trump Administration if anyone is reading this.

READ THE MEMO for  the State of the Union Address!

... and, have plenty of cameras on the audience, particularly anyone who might be connected with names mentioned.   Just for good measure, instruct the Secret Service to keep everyone SEATED for the duration of the State of the Union Address - or they will be detained, after being singled out from the podium.   :ttoung:
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Re: The Memo
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 04:21:55 AM »
Adam Shiff (d) CA says the memo should not be released because the American people would not understand it. Yeah, sure.
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