Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 17, 2018, 07:02:36 PM

Capitulate WHAT?  Do you understand that Trump can CRUSH the Russians economically by flooding Europe with Cheap AMERICAN OIL and LNG? The Russian ecinomy isn't doing allthat great to begin with. But  Do you understand that by taking away Putin's Pipeline the Russian Economy TANKS?  Vicariously, the Iranian scum dogs crash and burn as well, If they can't sell their oil and WE start Eating THEIR LUNCH?????

DO you understand what Trump actually said to Europe?  Do you understand it was a THREAT TO PUTIN, NOT NATO? Furthermore why do you think the MSM isn't picking up on that and why do you think they are all going ballistic and claiming Trump is now Putins Lap dog? BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE REALITY OF WHAT MAY HAPPEN should Trump act on his threats to steal away the Eurpean Oil market.

Peace through Strength, ECONOMIC and MILITARY

I think he knows it, just doesn't want to admit it, so he watches crap like Morning Joe and runs to the DU for his daily talking points in hopes that no one calls him on his ignorance..

Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 07:06:28 PM
I think he knows it, just doesn't want to admit it, so he watches crap like Morning Joe and runs to the DU for his daily talking points in hopes that no one calls him on his ignorance..

That's part of what I don't get. Russia is an economic flea, military not strong but due to Putin they are overexagerated on the world stage cause he's very slick.

The G7 countries said screw 'em, we don't need them and they're correct. We're not at war and probably won't be because the endgame is unthinkable. What's the obsession with trump to play nice and be buddies?

No Morning Joe and I don't know what DU is, Ducks Unlimited?

Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
That's part of what I don't get. Russia is an economic flea, military not strong but due to Putin they are overexagerated on the world stage cause he's very slick.

The G7 countries said screw 'em, we don't need them and they're correct. We're not at war and probably won't be because the endgame is unthinkable. What's the obsession with trump to play nice and be buddies?

No Morning Joe and I don't know what DU is, Ducks Unlimited?

And your going to teach us.       

Quote from: walkstall on July 17, 2018, 07:23:37 PM
And your going to teach us.       

You're going to teach us.
Hope that helps. ;)

Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
That's part of what I don't get. Russia is an economic flea, military not strong but due to Putin they are overexagerated on the world stage cause he's very slick.

The G7 countries said screw 'em, we don't need them and they're correct. We're not at war and probably won't be because the endgame is unthinkable. What's the obsession with trump to play nice and be buddies?

No Morning Joe and I don't know what DU is, Ducks Unlimited?

Hello! So why should we remain enemies? Why is the left so upset that Trump wants to stop Russian meddling on the world stage and in the M/E?
Trump just stole another Chinese ally. Are you not getting any of this?

Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
That's part of what I don't get. Russia is an economic flea, military not strong but due to Putin they are overexagerated on the world stage cause he's very slick.

The G7 countries said screw 'em, we don't need them and they're correct. We're not at war and probably won't be because the endgame is unthinkable. What's the obsession with trump to play nice and be buddies?

No Morning Joe and I don't know what DU is, Ducks Unlimited?

Russia ISN'T THE PROBLEM, IRAN IS THE PROBLEM, don't you understand that?  Anything that America can do to weaken Iran and destroy the alliance between Russia and Iran the better not only for US and Europe but for Iran itself, getting rid of these Lunatic hate America Ayatollahs who want the world to be one under Islam with Iran in control of all Islam.  if you can weaken the alliance between Iran and Russia we have a better chance at that. Making Nice with Russia and getting them to distance from Iran is the Key, MORE IMPORTANTLY stop giving Iran Uranium et al to built nukes....Putin knows what Iran is, don't forget he has a hostile Muslim country giving him fits right on his doorstep...those lunatic Chechins. I think he also realizes how Dangerous Iran would be with Nukes, and how those dirt worshipping heathens would turn on him in a heart beat, but Iran is coughing up his oil so in a way he is trapped. Trump is giving him an out.

Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 07:43:21 PM
Hello! So why should we remain enemies? Why is the left so upset that Trump wants to stop Russian meddling on the world stage and in the M/E?
Trump just stole another Chinese ally. Are you not getting any of this?

Overtly screwing with our nations election process is not a friendly act and they are more than likely going to do it again. Where do your loyalties lie?  Would you prefer more trumplike candidates elected with Putin's help. That's what you are implying with this laissez-fare attitude of foreign interference 
If so, this republic is in serious trouble from within.

Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 08:06:33 PM
Overtly screwing with our nations election process is not a friendly act and they are more than likely going to do it again. Where do your loyalties lie?  Would you prefer more trumplike candidates elected with Putin's help. That's what you are implying with this laissez-fare attitude of foreign interference 
If so, this republic is in serious trouble from within.

You are speculating. How do you know who screwed with the electorial process?  DNC never allowed a proper investigation of the Server that was allegedly "hacked" and how do you know it was the Russian "Government" authorized by Putin and not a bunch of Russian mobsters looking to extort money.  This mysterious 400 K "Doantion by some Shadowy figure that Putin just told the world about in open conference needs some serious follow up on as well. Since we are speculating, my speculation is that the Pakistani Spies (AWAN) did the hack and blamed it on the "RUssians", OR more likely, the "hack" was an inside job pinnedon the "Russians.....

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 17, 2018, 08:35:10 PM

You are speculating. How do you know who screwed with the electorial process?  DNC never allowed a proper investigation of the Server that was allegedly "hacked" and how do you know it was the Russian "Government" authorized by Putin and not a bunch of Russian mobsters looking to extort money.  This mysterious 400 K "Doantion by some Shadowy figure that Putin just told the world about in open conference needs some serious follow up on as well. Since we are speculating, my speculation is that the Pakistani Spies (AWAN) did the hack and blamed it on the "RUssians", OR more likely, the "hack" was an inside job pinnedon the "Russians.....

Alternative facts.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

The allegations are unambiguous and damming. Do you think it it went to trial they would be found innocent? 

Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 08:06:33 PM
Overtly screwing with our nations election process is not a friendly act and they are more than likely going to do it again. Where do your loyalties lie?  Would you prefer more trumplike candidates elected with Putin's help. That's what you are implying with this laissez-fare attitude of foreign interference 
If so, this republic is in serious trouble from within.

Here's what we do know, Hillary had a private server and two Iranian spies as IT techs running the entire thing. So the real question is, was it actually hacked, or did they give the Iranians the passcode who turned it over to a handful of Russians who simply trapesed throughout their entire system?
Let's not forget, Hillary broke the law by using this server as well as Obozo who knew it was not an authorized Govt server.

Now, do you see why we have these laws in place?
The Dim party broke the LAW! Don't forget that, they sent top secret information over the web so anyone could have just as easily hacked it, and probably did, think China.
You really need to get your priorities straight as to who is really guilty here!

Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 08:58:24 PM

Here's what we do know, Hillary had a private server and two Iranian spies as IT techs running the entire thing. So the real question is, was it actually hacked, or did they give the Iranians the passcode who turned it over to a handful of Russians who simply trapesed throughout their entire system?
Let's not forget, Hillary broke the law by using this server as well as Obozo who knew it was not an authorized Govt server.

Now, do you see why we have these laws in place?
The Dim party broke the LAW! Don't forget that, they sent top secret information over the web so anyone could have just as easily hacked it, and probably did, think China.
You really need to get your priorities straight as to who is really guilty here!

What does Hillary's server when she was SoS have to do with the 2016 election? 

You have any evidence it was hacked by these Iranians?  What top secret information?

What's it been six years, four investigations and she hasn't been charged....I don get it.

Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 09:29:49 PM
What does Hillary's server when she was SoS have to do with the 2016 election? 

You have any evidence it was hacked by these Iranians?  What top secret information?

What's it been six years, four investigations and she hasn't been charged....I don get it.

A another teaching by the checker playing dude.  He don't get it.  It's been on the net for over a year.   

Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 09:29:49 PM
What does Hillary's server when she was SoS have to do with the 2016 election? 

You have any evidence it was hacked by these Iranians?  What top secret information?

What's it been six years, four investigations and she hasn't been charged....I don get it.

All good questions that demand answers from the DNC. They claimed their server was hacked and were supposed to take their word for it, which server was it?
They refused to allow the FBI to see it, and that's another issue Comey needs to explain and why he didn't insist, instead of simply walking away.

We can only guess it was Iranians because of all the Iranians tied to the party, Valerie Jarrett and now we find out Strozk as well and the fact it was two Iranians that had the key to the servers.
Why aren't you asking your Representative these questions?

Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 09:54:58 PM
All good questions that demand answers from the DNC. They claimed their server was hacked and were supposed to take their word for it, which server was it?
They refused to allow the FBI to see it, and that's another issue Comey needs to explain and why he didn't insist, instead of simply walking away.

We can only guess it was Iranians because of all the Iranians tied to the party, Valerie Jarrett and now we find out Strozk as well and the fact it was two Iranians that had the key to the servers.
Why aren't you asking your Representative these questions?

Read the indictment.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

Quote from: walkstall on July 17, 2018, 09:45:38 PM
A another teaching by the checker playing dude.  He don't get it.  It's been on the net for over a year.

????  Why don't you show me where the correlation is between Hillary's server and the 2016 election ???I

After all, it's on the net and therefore must be true.