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Title: The Latest London Violence
Post by: supsalemgr on June 19, 2017, 07:38:26 AM
We have a new event in London and it is being labeled a terror attack. I condemn the attack. All evidence so far indicates this is the case and committed by a non Muslim. If this is the case then it will have to determined if the perp is a one off nut case or part of something else. I am going to dig a little deeper and suggest another possibility to consider. It is no secret that UK leadership has been soft on immigration and terror. I would think there are a significant number of Brits who are fed up with the government's approach to terror. They feel abandoned and helpless and feel only they can stop it. I do not agree with this approach, but frustration causes people to do strange things.
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
He's in custody, he said it was retaliation and chose that Mosque because that's where the terrorists came from.
People are fed up and taking justice into their own hands because the govt refuses to do a thing about it.
I can see it happening here.
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: je_freedom on June 19, 2017, 01:41:02 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 19, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
He's in custody, he said it was retaliation and chose that Mosque because that's where the terrorists came from.
People are fed up and taking justice into their own hands because the govt refuses to do a thing about it.
I can see it happening here.

That attack by driving the van into the Muslims leaving their mosque
is a bad idea because
it gives the leftists and their allies
an opportunity to claim that
the terrorists and we, their intended victims, are morally equivalent.

It lowers our side down to the level of the terrorists.
It's using the same strategy as the terrorists.
It's attacking the whole community from where the terrorists come,
instead of searching out the individuals who launch the terrorism
and the people who provide material support to the attacks.
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: ldub23 on June 19, 2017, 03:46:45 PM
We need to understand how this  poor fellow felt isolated and betrayed. As my leftist brethren would say about  Muslim terrorists, this was most  likely caused  by  global warming.
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2017, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: je_freedom on June 19, 2017, 01:41:02 PM
That attack by driving the van into the Muslims leaving their mosque
is a bad idea because
it gives the leftists and their allies
an opportunity to claim that
the terrorists and we, their intended victims, are morally equivalent.

It lowers our side down to the level of the terrorists.
It's using the same strategy as the terrorists.
It's attacking the whole community from where the terrorists come,
instead of searching out the individuals who launch the terrorism
and the people who provide material support to the attacks.
First off, this was the UK, so there is no "WE", secondly, an eye for an eye is what these barbarians understand.
Personally, I'd have hunted them down one by one one, trapped them and make them rebuke the pedophile prophet, douse them in pigs blood and slit their smaller arteries, only so slightly so as to slowly bleed out.

But that's just me not wanting to use a truck to hurt the innocent bystander Christians in the crowd. :glare:
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 19, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
He's in custody, he said it was retaliation and chose that Mosque because that's where the terrorists came from.
People are fed up and taking justice into their own hands because the govt refuses to do a thing about it.
I can see it happening here.
A year ago I would agree but I have a feeling if Trumps hands are untied by the SCOTUS we will see a major change in our response! General Kelly is probably the Best pick for HLS anyone could have made. We need to untie their hands!
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: walkstall on June 19, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
A year ago I would agree but I have a feeling if Trumps hands are untied by the SCOTUS we will see a major change in our response! General Kelly is probably the Best pick for HLS anyone could have made. We need to untie their hands!

That will not happen with the 9th Circuit Court they will tie Trump up for the next 3.5 years.  That's not counting the other Circuit Courts. 
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 05:28:16 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 19, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
That will not happen with the 9th Circuit Court they will tie Trump up for the next 3.5 years.  That's not counting the other Circuit Courts.
The SCOTUS can set the agenda with a proper ruling and if the Judges buck the SCOTUS it could set any judge that bucks them up for grounds for impeachment! Lop off a few heads the rest will run for cover!! :popcorn:
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: walkstall on June 19, 2017, 05:31:24 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 05:28:16 PM
The SCOTUS can set the agenda with a proper ruling and if the Judges buck the SCOTUS it could set any judge that bucks them up for grounds for impeachment! Lop off a few heads the rest will run for cover!! :popcorn:


Will not happen.  Just look at the 9th. 
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 05:40:27 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 19, 2017, 05:31:24 PM

Will not happen.  Just look at the 9th.
There is actually a bill being put forward congress to split up the ninth. The more they buck this administration the better chance that bill has to see daylight and become law!
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2017, 05:44:49 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
A year ago I would agree but I have a feeling if Trumps hands are untied by the SCOTUS we will see a major change in our response! General Kelly is probably the Best pick for HLS anyone could have made. We need to untie their hands!
You sure have a lot of faith in Trump, a feeling I don't share.
What will you say when he signs McConnels commiecare Bill?
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 19, 2017, 05:44:49 PM
You sure have a lot of faith in Trump, a feeling I don't share.
What will you say when he signs McConnels commiecare Bill?
I haven't seen anything yet! But don't get me wrong Solar, Just because I pretty much like the direction he is trying to go in general, I am not a Trump bot! I am sure he is going to do something sometime that is really going to tick me off but in the mean time I am really enjoying watching him take down anything and everything Obama has done! In another 6 months there will be no Obama legacy left. It's Obama Who? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
So far it isn't Trump that pisses me off it's the Republican RINO congress and Senate! These do nothing ass holes have it all in their hands but continue to allow the Democrats to dictate policy! I am afraid the Dim's could pull a big one off next year if these all about me RINO's don't get on with the agenda!
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: Billy's bayonet on June 19, 2017, 06:03:21 PM
I'm not saying what the guy did was right,but I can understand why he did it. Down through history it has been proven that when the Govt fails to protect people, when the law doesn't protect them, they resort to vigilanty-ism in the name of self defense. This happens a LOT overseas in third world countries.

Expect a rise in "retaliation".
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2017, 06:07:28 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 05:59:03 PM
I haven't seen anything yet! But don't get me wrong Solar, Just because I pretty much like the direction he is trying to go in general, I am not a Trump bot! I am sure he is going to do something sometime that is really going to tick me off but in the mean time I am really enjoying watching him take down anything and everything Obama has done! In another 6 months there will be no Obama legacy left. It's Obama Who? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
So far it isn't Trump that pisses me off it's the Republican RINO congress and Senate! These do nothing ass holes have it all in their hands but continue to allow the Democrats to dictate policy! I am afraid the Dim's could pull a big one off next year if these all about me RINO's don't get on with the agenda!
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Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 19, 2017, 06:27:38 PM
And all this time I thought they were in the majority. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2017, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 19, 2017, 06:27:38 PM
And all this time I thought they were in the majority. :rolleyes:
We're talking about liberals, right? D or R, it makes no difference any longer.
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 19, 2017, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 19, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
That will not happen with the 9th Circuit Court they will tie Trump up for the next 3.5 years.  That's not counting the other Circuit Courts.

I hear you on that, but wasn't he supposed to be nominating new judges to the lower courts?
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 19, 2017, 07:08:27 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 05:59:03 PM
I haven't seen anything yet! But don't get me wrong Solar, Just because I pretty much like the direction he is trying to go in general, I am not a Trump bot! I am sure he is going to do something sometime that is really going to tick me off but in the mean time I am really enjoying watching him take down anything and everything Obama has done! In another 6 months there will be no Obama legacy left. It's Obama Who? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
So far it isn't Trump that pisses me off it's the Republican RINO congress and Senate! These do nothing ass holes have it all in their hands but continue to allow the Democrats to dictate policy! I am afraid the Dim's could pull a big one off next year if these all about me RINO's don't get on with the agenda!

I agree with you completely!  The RINO's and the liberal mental midgets are doing everything they can to railroad this president.  If they succeed, it will be business as usual, a la Clinton style.  If they manage to impeach him and Pence as has been rumored...that leaves RINO Ryan in charge.
Title: Re: The Latest London Violence
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 19, 2017, 07:13:29 PM
It's probably going to get worse. Especially when the pubs let out. Drunk guys looking for anyone who looks Muslim. And the authorities and the media will side with the Muslims.