The Big Ugly Storm - What/who is/was the Genesis?

Started by Sauce, January 22, 2018, 10:25:43 AM

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Sauce

Just some questions......

Do we really believe that this was President Trump's idea (drain the swamp) going back to primaries and general election?

If this wasn't what he meant by draining the swamp, who is advising him now?  Or who advised him before he decided to run and continues too?

A lot of posters seem to be giving a lot more credit to the President than I would.... and I don't mean that as a slam on the President, its just so far out there, hell
I don't think anyone on this board saw something like this (if true) coming....EVER.


supsalemgr

Quote from: Sauce on January 22, 2018, 10:25:43 AM
Just some questions......

Do we really believe that this was President Trump's idea (drain the swamp) going back to primaries and general election?

If this wasn't what he meant by draining the swamp, who is advising him now?  Or who advised him before he decided to run and continues too?

A lot of posters seem to be giving a lot more credit to the President than I would.... and I don't mean that as a slam on the President, its just so far out there, hell
I don't think anyone on this board saw something like this (if true) coming....EVER.

He is just proving how good governing can occur when the leader is not indebted to special interests.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

Sauce

Quote from: supsalemgr on January 22, 2018, 10:34:44 AM
He is just proving how good governing can occur when the leader is not indebted to special interests.


Ok...good point :smile:

AndyJackson

Quote from: Sauce on January 22, 2018, 10:25:43 AM
Just some questions......

Do we really believe that this was President Trump's idea (drain the swamp) going back to primaries and general election?

If this wasn't what he meant by draining the swamp, who is advising him now?  Or who advised him before he decided to run and continues too?

A lot of posters seem to be giving a lot more credit to the President than I would.... and I don't mean that as a slam on the President, its just so far out there, hell
I don't think anyone on this board saw something like this (if true) coming....EVER.
It's in a few threads here, but the theory is that Trump was recruited at least a year or two before the election, by the relatively few good guys (white hats) still left in the agencies / intel.  Who recognized the actual destruction of America by Obama + Clinton, and decided to mount a campaign against the treason, and Clinton's campaign specifically.

So "drain the swamp" could possibly have been in Trump's planning / PR for some time before even the primaries.  He may have been already coordinating with the good guys, as a private citizen who was plotting out a candidacy.  He may have been already receiving knowledge of the crimes and criminal end game, back in 2014 / 2015.

Solar

Quote from: Sauce on January 22, 2018, 10:25:43 AM
Just some questions......

Do we really believe that this was President Trump's idea (drain the swamp) going back to primaries and general election?

If this wasn't what he meant by draining the swamp, who is advising him now?  Or who advised him before he decided to run and continues too?

A lot of posters seem to be giving a lot more credit to the President than I would.... and I don't mean that as a slam on the President, its just so far out there, hell
I don't think anyone on this board saw something like this (if true) coming....EVER.
This is a great question, one Taxed and I have discussed in depth, and both of us came to the conclusion Trump was chosen by True Patriots in the govt long before his declaration to run.
This is evidenced by the fact he abandoned the 3 letter Federal agencies early on, for Military protection, as noted by his refusal to have SS agents as his bodyguards and chose his own to remain in place.
He has been well connected to some very important people over the years and apparently they saw something in Trump the rest of the nation wasn't quite privy to.
When you step back and look at this, it all makes total sense, his backers have been waiting for the Right moment to attack, sadly Cruz was a recipient of this attack and it's too bad he wasn't in on what was taking place, but these people weren't willing to take any chances by letting in outsiders because they are also targeting the Establishment Pubs, starting at the top.

I could go on, but I think this summarizes what took place and why he targeted the deep leftist associated with the Deep State Marxists.
Back up and look at the Saudia Arabia connection and how one Prince purged all the rich Marxists from the family, literally cutting the financial support of the Dim party and why Soros transferred all his money to his son's operations.

I'll be glad to expand as best as possible, but I'm not on the inside so my knowledge is limited.
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Solar

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 22, 2018, 10:43:32 AM
It's in a few threads here, but the theory is that Trump was recruited at least a year or two before the election, by the relatively few good guys (white hats) still left in the agencies / intel.  Who recognized the actual destruction of America by Obama + Clinton, and decided to mount a campaign against the treason, and Clinton's campaign specifically.

So "drain the swamp" could possibly have been in Trump's planning / PR for some time before even the primaries.  He may have been already coordinating with the good guys, as a private citizen who was plotting out a candidacy.  He may have been already receiving knowledge of the crimes and criminal end game, back in 2014 / 2015.
That about sums it up.
I can't wait for the book that tells the back story. :biggrin:
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AndyJackson

Interesting, they are now saying that Horowitz had all the Strzok-Page emails in hand, and reported as received, in December.

Maybe Trump and Co. putting out a fake "lost e-mails" scenario to string along the guilty, get them to continue to chatter and plot.

Double-Reverse zig-zag Shuck & Jive stuff going on here.

Also reading where Clapper, Brennan, and Hayden probably were running a private spy-for-hire outfit, using all the nifty tools they had at their disposal, at their govt jobs.  Hired out to Obama and Clinton for all this Trump stuff, then hired UK assets to do the dirty work.

We could really see these guys get shot or hung on national TV, for all that.  Boy I hope so.  Show that America still has some standards and laws.

Solar

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 22, 2018, 12:41:11 PM
Interesting, they are now saying that Horowitz had all the Strzok-Page emails in hand, and reported as received, in December.

Maybe Trump and Co. putting out a fake "lost e-mails" scenario to string along the guilty, get them to continue to chatter and plot.

Double-Reverse zig-zag Shuck & Jive stuff going on here.

Also reading where Clapper, Brennan, and Hayden probably were running a private spy-for-hire outfit, using all the nifty tools they had at their disposal, at their govt jobs.  Hired out to Obama and Clinton for all this Trump stuff, then hired UK assets to do the dirty work.

We could really see these guys get shot or hung on national TV, for all that.  Boy I hope so.  Show that America still has some standards and laws.
They're currently checking the texts/emails, but it's suspected they were purposely sent wrong info on purpose.
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Hoofer

My theory is Age of the man.  My reasoning is quite simple, he's 70... and has done everything, BUT!

a.  He's been a very successful entrepreneur in one of the most difficult markets in the world - can he do the same for America?
b.  He's built a reputation for 1st class, high end, luxury, extravagance, etc., and wishes the same for the country he loves.  MAGA
c.  He probably realized the ONLY legacy you can leave in America, to be remembered for, is assassination or radically changing the politic.   (think Lincoln-war/assassinated, Roosevelt-war/social security, Reagan-USSR collapse/economic reversal)   Trump has already reversed the economy and politic... hence, he will be remembered, as Reagan is.
d.  He's personally witnessed the decline & radicalization of the Democratic Party from JFK to Obama - and maybe have realized it's better to neutered/destroy the Dems and spare the nation, via the Republican Party.   (I can't think of any other reason why he switched parties!)
e.  The POTUS position has been his last goal in life that has eluded him for decades.  He's desperately wanted that title, but, also wanted to PROVE a businessman like himself has more experience running, delegating, directing, than a lifelong politician who has never held a normal job in decades.

President Trump (libs hate that) is not a 2nd Ronald Reagan.   He's someone who is well suited for this time, by all indications, and we've only had 1 year of him!

I think the real question, partially answered already, was this Trump's idea he SOLD and drew people over to his side -or- did a group of Patriots sell him on some of these ideas?
Don't know if we'll ever know... :confused:
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AndyJackson

Quote from: Hoofer on January 22, 2018, 02:28:58 PM
My theory is Age of the man.  My reasoning is quite simple, he's 70... and has done everything, BUT!

a.  He's been a very successful entrepreneur in one of the most difficult markets in the world - can he do the same for America?
b.  He's built a reputation for 1st class, high end, luxury, extravagance, etc., and wishes the same for the country he loves.  MAGA
c.  He probably realized the ONLY legacy you can leave in America, to be remembered for, is assassination or radically changing the politic.   (think Lincoln-war/assassinated, Roosevelt-war/social security, Reagan-USSR collapse/economic reversal)   Trump has already reversed the economy and politic... hence, he will be remembered, as Reagan is.
d.  He's personally witnessed the decline & radicalization of the Democratic Party from JFK to Obama - and maybe have realized it's better to neutered/destroy the Dems and spare the nation, via the Republican Party.   (I can't think of any other reason why he switched parties!)
e.  The POTUS position has been his last goal in life that has eluded him for decades.  He's desperately wanted that title, but, also wanted to PROVE a businessman like himself has more experience running, delegating, directing, than a lifelong politician who has never held a normal job in decades.

President Trump (libs hate that) is not a 2nd Ronald Reagan.   He's someone who is well suited for this time, by all indications, and we've only had 1 year of him!

I think the real question, partially answered already, was this Trump's idea he SOLD and drew people over to his side -or- did a group of Patriots sell him on some of these ideas?
Don't know if we'll ever know... :confused:
If all goes as we hope it will, it will be told in the movie(s).  A true-life story of the time America almost folded due to criminal infiltration.

I really think Trump is a lot like Reagan.  He's not as ideologically pure and amiable, but he is surely a dedicated, devoted, thankful American.  Who has an abiding respect for the constitution, capitalism, military, Judeo-Christian values and beliefs.  That's pretty Reagan-esque.

And remember, Reagan was once a dem and typical Californian.  Reformed a lot like Trump.

I agree that Trump is doing this after having done everything else.  And with his ego ?.........  "Hell yes !!  I'll be happy to be the guy who saves America !!"  I can see him saying that and envisioning a cape for himself, lol.  And envisioning his visage on Mt. Rushmore.

Hoofer

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 22, 2018, 04:43:37 PM
If all goes as we hope it will, it will be told in the movie(s).  A true-life story of the time America almost folded due to criminal infiltration.

I really think Trump is a lot like Reagan.  He's not as ideologically pure and amiable, but he is surely a dedicated, devoted, thankful American.  Who has an abiding respect for the constitution, capitalism, military, Judeo-Christian values and beliefs.  That's pretty Reagan-esque.

And remember, Reagan was once a dem and typical Californian.  Reformed a lot like Trump.

I agree that Trump is doing this after having done everything else.  And with his ego ?.........  "Hell yes !!  I'll be happy to be the guy who saves America !!"  I can see him saying that and envisioning a cape for himself, lol.  And envisioning his visage on Mt. Rushmore.

Forgot one thing, the obvious.   If you spend DECADES funding and supporting a political party that completely turned against everything you hold dear, the very country you love...   How much DISGUST could you suffer, before you set out on REVENGE... DESTRUCTION... ?
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