Author Topic: The 'Big CA Split-Up'-- pipedream or reality?  (Read 935 times)

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The 'Big CA Split-Up'-- pipedream or reality?
« on: April 12, 2018, 07:27:38 AM »
We in the upper areas of NYS are watching this because although separated by thousands of miles, our economic & political woes are almost identical with those of our CA brethren.

NYC area and 'Upstate' NY are dissimilar enough to be unrelated in any major issue.

Watching---

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/12/exclusive-splitting-california-three-step-closer-billionaire/
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Re: The 'Big CA Split-Up'-- pipedream or reality?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2018, 07:31:56 AM »
Belenus, can you find another source that doesn't force one to join just to read an article?
We do not support sites that demand our participation or private info.
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Re: The 'Big CA Split-Up'-- pipedream or reality?
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2018, 07:38:04 AM »
Belenus, can you find another source that doesn't force one to join just to read an article?
We do not support sites that demand our participation or private info.

Damn. The thing did not ask me to join anything or sign up and I haven't.

Sorry about that.

I guess I need to give this business a rest.
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Re: The 'Big CA Split-Up'-- pipedream or reality?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2018, 07:43:53 AM »
Damn. The thing did not ask me to join anything or sign up and I haven't.

Sorry about that.

I guess I need to give this business a rest.
If you could see the entire article, then post it in its entirety, you have my permission.
A lot of these sites give you just so many times to read then force you to join, I think that's what happened in my case, so go ahead and, in the least, post the pertinent parts.
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Break Up California Into 3 Smaller States, Billionaire Urges
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2018, 08:01:12 AM »
Could California be split up to better represent its citizens?

Billionaire venture capitalist Tim Draper says his petition to break up California into three states has garnered enough signatures for the initiative to be added to the ballot this November.

Draper lobbied unsuccessfully for similar ballot initiatives in 2014 and 2016, but this year he said he was able to amass approximately 600,000 signatures, well more than the 365,880 required. The initiative reportedly will be submitted to election officials next week.
 

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/04/12/proposal-calls-california-be-split-three-states-billionaire-tim-draper-explains

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/12/exclusive-splitting-california-three...

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Re: Break Up California Into 3 Smaller States, Billionaire Urges
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2018, 08:59:24 AM »
Can't wait to see the cat fight when they try to assign the debt

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Re: Break Up California Into 3 Smaller States, Billionaire Urges
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2018, 09:10:54 AM »
Don't see this mentioned and not sure... but I posted this elsewhere and someone pointed out that it's a democrat plan to gain more Senators if the state gets divided up. What do you think?

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Re: Break Up California Into 3 Smaller States, Billionaire Urges
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2018, 09:17:09 AM »
Don't see this mentioned and not sure... but I posted this elsewhere and someone pointed out that it's a democrat plan to gain more Senators if the state gets divided up. What do you think?
Don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least because they're scared to death of the real movement to split the State from the Marxists.

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Re: Break Up California Into 3 Smaller States, Billionaire Urges
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2018, 09:40:27 AM »
Don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least because they're scared to death of the real movement to split the State from the Marxists.

http://soj51.org/

My initial thought was how do they that the northern part of the state wouldn't elect a Republican since I believe the northern part is the more "conservative " part if such a thing exists at all in CA. Then again it could be a RINO GOPe one. The guess jury is still out of the pros and cons of this idea.

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Re: Break Up California Into 3 Smaller States, Billionaire Urges
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2018, 09:45:55 AM »
My initial thought was how do they that the northern part of the state wouldn't elect a Republican since I believe the northern part is the more "conservative " part if such a thing exists at all in CA. Then again it could be a RINO GOPe one. The guess jury is still out of the pros and cons of this idea.

It all depends how they do it. If the red parts are allowed to secede then it shld help us. However if the blue parts themselves are split into different states then the left gets more senetors.

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Re: Break Up California Into 3 Smaller States, Billionaire Urges
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2018, 09:49:19 AM »
My initial thought was how do they that the northern part of the state wouldn't elect a Republican since I believe the northern part is the more "conservative " part if such a thing exists at all in CA. Then again it could be a RINO GOPe one. The guess jury is still out of the pros and cons of this idea.
Believe me, Norcal is solid Conservative. The SOJ-51 movement eliminates all lib strongholds, with the exception of Tahoe region.
The end result would be a Conservative Idaho, yes, more conservative than Idaho today.
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Re: Break Up California Into 3 Smaller States, Billionaire Urges
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2018, 10:07:17 AM »
Suggest caution rather than consent here; particularly
w/a crony capitalist fraud and hustler like Draper involved.
He is a faddish San Francisco venture capitalist, promoting
bullshit such as Bitcoin; so be wary of his "ideas".
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A reflection involving La Raza /"The Race" is appropriate.
In 1521, Spanish Adventurer, Hernando Cortes conquered Mexico,
along w/Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada plus 4 more.
The Treaty of Guadeloupe-Hidalgo, 325 years later in 1848, ended
the US-Mexican War, ceding control/possession of these States
to these USA.
This gave rise to the La Raza movement in Mexico which claimed
that this Treaty was an illegal usurpation; as these States rightfully
belonged to Mexico.
At its core, La Raza is a militant, hate-America group, conspicuous
in urban areas such as Chicago and Los Angeles.
Splitting California would likely lead to partition (recall Ireland)
and a vote to secede (recall our Civil War).
We have far to many assholes in the public arena touting their
panaceas and hardly need another schmuck such as Draper



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Re: Break Up California Into 3 Smaller States, Billionaire Urges
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2018, 05:34:09 AM »
Believe me, Norcal is solid Conservative. The SOJ-51 movement eliminates all lib strongholds, with the exception of Tahoe region.
The end result would be a Conservative Idaho, yes, more conservative than Idaho today.

Just as an aside. I recently read that Idaho is one of the 3 top places people from the Northeast are relocating to. We know what happens when northeasterners relocate...some take their liberal ideas with them. Look at the Carolinas. May not be totally blue yet but heading that way as more and more people move there. Where I live all I hear is, "moving to NC or SC". Not good politically. Planning on getting out of here myself but I don't want to move where I'll have to deal with the same thing again.

 

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