Ted Cruz Thread

Started by Solar, April 18, 2015, 05:52:31 PM

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taxed

On that Kelly interview, I have to disagree.  I actually thought he looked really strong, because he's right, the execution of his plan is first and foremost, and how does that happen.  When you have parents being deported, the kids will go with them, so the question really is about the solution itself.  It's not like millions of illegals have been deported and all left their kids here.  I liked Trump's answer, sure, but it's also another "moving part" in terms of the actual border security and immigration policy.  To my way of thinking, dealing with the citizenship issue, which they're not citizens because the parents broke the law in the first place, but that can be dealt with AFTER the new border security is in place.
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Solar

Quote from: kroz on August 26, 2015, 04:18:21 AM
If you listened carefully to his response he specifically mentioned enforcing e-verify.  I think Cruz will rely heavily on that to cause illegals to self deport taking their children with them.  If they leave their children they will find someone to keep them.  They won't leave them on the street.  Older children would be more likely to stay here and I think Cruz would allow that.  He would argue that getting rid of the illegals and closing the borders will insure that the problem has been effectively solved.  The children's destiny would be the choice of the parent.  The government would not accept responsibility for the children.

And I would accept that as a solution.   I have long said that the solution to the problem is e-verify enforcement and a secure border.  That is exactly what Cruz said.

Then Cruz also said that anchor babies should cease.... whether by policy change or Constitutional amendment.... whichever way is acceptable.

I read it and didn't have an issue with what he said either.
He didn't come off as a half cocked Trump, bolstering BS just because it gets a crowd excited,
knowing he'd be blowing smoke up everyone's ass with Trump rhetoric.

That's not Cruz style, he tells the truth in the face of reality.


















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Quote from: Solar on August 26, 2015, 06:25:26 AM
I read it and didn't have an issue with what he said either.
He didn't come off as a half cocked Trump, bolstering BS just because it gets a crowd excited,
knowing he'd be blowing smoke up everyone's ass with Trump rhetoric.

That's not Cruz style, he tells the truth in the face of reality.

If criticism of Cruz picks up in the MSM it means he is making a positive move. This would be good news.
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carlb

I think they're both saying the same things.

Cruz would accomplish the same thing behind the scenes. But so would Trump if you read the plan. The way Trump speaks though, the uninformed would believe hedcsendvout the SS to round up invaders. The truth is, under either, the vast majority would self deport.

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Quote from: carlb on August 26, 2015, 10:19:54 AM
I think they're both saying the same things.

Cruz would accomplish the same thing behind the scenes. But so would Trump if you read the plan. The way Trump speaks though, the uninformed would believe hedcsendvout the SS to round up invaders. The truth is, under either, the vast majority would self deport.

Tentatively, at Ted's invitation, they both will be on-stage together, protesting the Iran-deal.  Too bad  The Washington Post and Yahoo are the only ones reporting it since earlier this afternoon:

On Thursday, the GOP frontrunner hinted, and Cruz's campaign confirmed, that the pair would team up for a Capitol Hill rally against the Iran nuclear deal.

"Sen. Cruz has invited Donald Trump to join him on the Capitol grounds for a rally to call on members of Congress to defeat the catastrophic deal that the Obama Administration has struck with the Islamic Republic of Iran," the Texas lawmaker's campaign said in a statement.


http://news.yahoo.com/trump-cruz-bromance-takes-another-221600001.html;_ylt=A0LEV04C0N9VcMEAmhNXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--


kroz

Quote from: kit saginaw on August 27, 2015, 08:18:48 PM
Tentatively, at Ted's invitation, they both will be on-stage together, protesting the Iran-deal.  Too bad  The Washington Post and Yahoo are the only ones reporting it since earlier this afternoon:

On Thursday, the GOP frontrunner hinted, and Cruz's campaign confirmed, that the pair would team up for a Capitol Hill rally against the Iran nuclear deal.

"Sen. Cruz has invited Donald Trump to join him on the Capitol grounds for a rally to call on members of Congress to defeat the catastrophic deal that the Obama Administration has struck with the Islamic Republic of Iran," the Texas lawmaker's campaign said in a statement.


http://news.yahoo.com/trump-cruz-bromance-takes-another-221600001.html;_ylt=A0LEV04C0N9VcMEAmhNXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

This could end up being a dangerous situation for Cruz.   

I hope it goes well but he is in danger of being upstaged by Trump and looking weak by contrast.  But I trust that Cruz realizes this and has planned for every possible scenario.  Can't wait to see how it goes!!!

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Quote from: kroz on August 28, 2015, 04:01:24 AM
This could end up being a dangerous situation for Cruz.   

I hope it goes well but he is in danger of being upstaged by Trump and looking weak by contrast.  But I trust that Cruz realizes this and has planned for every possible scenario.  Can't wait to see how it goes!!!

Hmm...
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taxed

Quote from: kroz on August 28, 2015, 04:01:24 AM
This could end up being a dangerous situation for Cruz. 

I hope it goes well but he is in danger of being upstaged by Trump and looking weak by contrast.  But I trust that Cruz realizes this and has planned for every possible scenario.  Can't wait to see how it goes!!!

He is in no danger, and he's not weak, so he can't really look weak.  Weak people look weak.  He gets to showcase and introduce himself to a ton of Trump supporters.

Part of me feels like Trump supports Cruz, and when Trump flames out, he'll throw support behind Cruz.  I really believe that.
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kroz

Quote from: taxed on August 28, 2015, 04:47:57 AM
He is in no danger, and he's not weak, so he can't really look weak.  Weak people look weak.  He gets to showcase and introduce himself to a ton of Trump supporters.

Part of me feels like Trump supports Cruz, and when Trump flames out, he'll throw support behind Cruz.  I really believe that.

I hope you are right about that, taxed.

I would like to see Cruz capture the attention of a lot of folks who tune in to watch Trump.
Cruz has the ability to do that.

taxed

Quote from: kroz on August 28, 2015, 05:31:55 AM
I hope you are right about that, taxed.

I would like to see Cruz capture the attention of a lot of folks who tune in to watch Trump.
Cruz has the ability to do that.

I am.  Plus, if we were worried about Cruz looking weak, then we shouldn't be supporting him in the first place ;-)
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Quote from: kroz on August 28, 2015, 05:31:55 AM
I hope you are right about that, taxed.

I would like to see Cruz capture the attention of a lot of folks who tune in to watch Trump.
Cruz has the ability to do that.
This is the same guy the RINO set up to take the fall for Hussein shutting down the govt, the one the LSM metaphorically lynched and painted as an evil extremist.
Yeah, I think he can handle himself. :biggrin:
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Quote from: taxed on August 28, 2015, 04:47:57 AM
He is in no danger, and he's not weak, so he can't really look weak.  Weak people look weak.  He gets to showcase and introduce himself to a ton of Trump supporters.

Part of me feels like Trump supports Cruz, and when Trump flames out, he'll throw support behind Cruz.  I really believe that.

So what should that tell you about Trump, if he's willing to choose Cruz to support over rinos? Too much energy is being wasted trying to bring down Trump. We're only spectators with opinions after all.

kroz

Quote from: carlb on August 28, 2015, 09:57:09 AM
So what should that tell you about Trump, if he's willing to choose Cruz to support over rinos? Too much energy is being wasted trying to bring down Trump. We're only spectators with opinions after all.

NO!  We are educated voices in an ocean of social media and our own spheres of personal influence.

Never underestimate the power of one educated communicator!!!! :mad:

taxed

Quote from: carlb on August 28, 2015, 09:57:09 AM
So what should that tell you about Trump, if he's willing to choose Cruz to support over rinos? Too much energy is being wasted trying to bring down Trump. We're only spectators with opinions after all.

It shows he doesn't hate the country.  I never thought he did.
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kit saginaw

It's hard to find the transcript of Cavuto's phone-interview with Cruz yesterday, probably because Cavuto's performance was one of his worst.  He suddenly comes back from a vacation on Wednesday, in case the stock-market dropped another 2.5%, I guess...  Since it didn't, he sleepwalked through the interview without any preparations.  Cruz tried to talk about the Iran-vote and his co-appearance with Trump, but kept getting interrupted with trivial clarifications.  Then Cavuto suddenly realized he only had 10-seconds left, and tried to ask Cruz about Iran and the Trump-rally.

The commercial-break cut them both off.  Ridiculous.