Quote from: Mountainshield on September 13, 2014, 09:41:59 AM

You and the GOP keep making that mistake and see where it gets you in the long run.

Quote from: washington on September 13, 2014, 09:02:50 AM
fine, I'll give in,

What has Cruz done in Congress that has garnered bipartisan support or support within his own party?  The American people will never not for a long time after this President vote for any candidate that has never lead anything with bipartisan support and accomplished what he set out to accomplish.  Another words you need way more than a big mouth.  Voters learn.  This will be the number 1 thing they look for in the next President. 


On the completely different subject of bipartisan support the reason why congress has such a low approval rating which shatters the Presidents FYI, is because the lack of working together.  See Newt Gingrich proved that you don't have to sacrifice core principles to accomplish things in congress with the other side, and he also did it with a democrat president.  Whether you have done it on the federal level or state level as a Governor doesn't matter as long as you have experience in Government doing it on a high profile level.  This will be the type of candidate that's the next president.  In a way Cruz is like Obama in th sense that he was a new lone wolf in congress before running for president.  We've learned our lesson. 

Also 1 key point I want to make - Because the American public doesn't realize that harry reid has stopped all GOP legislation from advancing they just see a disfunctional congress as a whole.  This is why Rand Paul and Cruz really have nothing to go on.  Our next president wont be coming from congress.

To speak of cruz as a viable candidate right now is potentially making the same mistake the libs made by electing Obama.

One sure way to guarantee a GOP loss is to try and work with democrats. The way to win is tp present a true conservative message and beat democrats, not join them.

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 13, 2014, 09:45:56 AM
One sure way to guarantee a GOP loss is to try and work with democrats. The way to win is tp present a true conservative message and beat democrats, not join them.

Clue - I'm talking about after we win. 

Quote from: washington on September 13, 2014, 10:18:26 AM
Clue - I'm talking about after we win.

So, are you saying Cruz could win and are asking what the strategies would be with him as POTUS?

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 13, 2014, 10:29:24 AM
So, are you saying Cruz could win and are asking what the strategies would be with him as POTUS?

Cruz wont win because he can't even get the support of his own party let alone bipartisan support, so the answer is no. 

Quote from: washington on September 13, 2014, 11:00:25 AM
Cruz wont win because he can't even get the support of his own party let alone bipartisan support, so the answer is no.

OK. Cruz won't win, but the GOP will. Now, tell us who the candidate will be that will win.

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 13, 2014, 11:15:32 AM
OK. Cruz won't win, but the GOP will. Now, tell us who the candidate will be that will win.

He fails to understand the significance of the 2010 slaughter of RINO, as will be an even bigger event in Nov, meaning TEA will have solid influence over the direction and Committee seats in the party.

Quote from: washington on September 13, 2014, 11:00:25 AM
Cruz wont win because he can't even get the support of his own party let alone bipartisan support, so the answer is no.

That's right! he has to run against Hillary who enjoys wide bipartisan support! Were doomed!

Quote from: carlb on September 13, 2014, 11:39:45 AM
That's right! he has to run against Hillary qho enjoys wide bipartisan support! Were doomed!

I hope that was sarcasm.

Of course solar. Do you think Hillary has the support of both parties?

Quote from: washington on September 13, 2014, 11:00:25 AM
Cruz wont win because he can't even get the support of his own party let alone bipartisan support, so the answer is no.

Never say that Cruz won't win.  The term bipartisan is only a fancy term for playing the blame game.  Quite frankly, I am sick of the Republicans blaming the Democrats and the Democrats blaming the Republicans.  It has accomplished absolutely nothing and merely an excuse for nothing getting done. Most Republicans and Democrats are all in the same ole country club.  Secondly, I don't want a president who the GOP establishment wants.  The GOP establishment is scared to death of Ted Cruz because they will need to straighten up their acts and the RINO's will be out the door!  Ted isn't going to play ball with the RINO's and Democrats rather the RINO's and Democrats need to play ball with him.  There is a huge difference between leading and uniting the party to do what is in the best interest of the country rather than allowing Congress to lead them to do what's in the best interest of the RINO cronies in Congress.

To support a candidate because you think they can win is ridiculous, ignorant and what got us into the mess that we are in.  Support the candidate who is the best person for the job.

We need TEA in the Congress, Senate and Oval Office.

Ted is Golden!   He is the United States Senator from Texas and the FIRST Latino to hold that office.  Do yourself a favor and look at his education and background as both will be a tremendous asset to campaigning for his presidency and I feel he will trounce any candidate Republican or Democrat.  His name is out there, he is tough, he has backbone, he has resolve and he is TEA!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 13, 2014, 11:15:32 AM
OK. Cruz won't win, but the GOP will. Now, tell us who the candidate will be that will win.

Gingrich, Kasich, or Gowdy at the moment. 

Quote from: suzziY on September 13, 2014, 11:48:52 AM
Never say that Cruz won't win. The term bipartisan is only a fancy term for playing the blame game.  Quite frankly, I am sick of the Republicans blaming the Democrats and the Democrats blaming the Republicans.  It has accomplished absolutely nothing and merely an excuse for nothing getting done. Most Republicans and Democrats are all in the same ole country club.  Secondly, I don't want a president who the GOP establishment wants.  The GOP establishment is scared to death of Ted Cruz because they will need to straighten up their acts and the RINO's will be out the door!  Ted isn't going to play ball with the RINO's and Democrats rather the RINO's and Democrats need to play ball with him.  There is a huge difference between leading and uniting the party to do what is in the best interest of the country rather than allowing Congress to lead them to do what's in the best interest of the RINO cronies in Congress.

To support a candidate because you think they can win is ridiculous, ignorant and what got us into the mess that we are in.  Support the candidate who is the best person for the job.

We need TEA in the Congress, Senate and Oval Office.

Ted is Golden!   He is the United States Senator from Texas and the FIRST Latino to hold that office.  Do yourself a favor and look at his education and background as both will be a tremendous asset to campaigning for his presidency and I feel he will trounce any candidate Republican or Democrat.  His name is out there, he is tough, he has backbone, he has resolve and he is TEA!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

Bingo!!!

Quote from: carlb on September 13, 2014, 11:48:52 AM
Of course solar. Do you think Hillary has the support of both parties?

Ah...  But she has the support of her own party by a wide margin unlike Cruz with a huge record of accomplishments, unlike Cruz.

Quote from: suzziY on September 13, 2014, 11:48:52 AM
Never say that Cruz won't win.  The term bipartisan is only a fancy term for playing the blame game.  Quite frankly, I am sick of the Republicans blaming the Democrats and the Democrats blaming the Republicans.  It has accomplished absolutely nothing and merely an excuse for nothing getting done. Most Republicans and Democrats are all in the same ole country club.  Secondly, I don't want a president who the GOP establishment wants.  The GOP establishment is scared to death of Ted Cruz because they will need to straighten up their acts and the RINO's will be out the door!  Ted isn't going to play ball with the RINO's and Democrats rather the RINO's and Democrats need to play ball with him.  There is a huge difference between leading and uniting the party to do what is in the best interest of the country rather than allowing Congress to lead them to do what's in the best interest of the RINO cronies in Congress.

To support a candidate because you think they can win is ridiculous, ignorant and what got us into the mess that we are in.  Support the candidate who is the best person for the job.

We need TEA in the Congress, Senate and Oval Office.

Ted is Golden!   He is the United States Senator from Texas and the FIRST Latino to hold that office.  Do yourself a favor and look at his education and background as both will be a tremendous asset to campaigning for his presidency and I feel he will trounce any candidate Republican or Democrat.  His name is out there, he is tough, he has backbone, he has resolve and he is TEA!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

By that logic we should elect Newt Gingrich.  Or Newt Gingrich should have been president.