Quote from: taxed on August 11, 2012, 02:46:49 PM
Sci Fi will not address this.  He will run from it.  That is what liberals do.  They really are not very smart.

Do me a fav, in the future, when he pops back in, please bump this thread so he is forced to answer it.

If I see him 

Quote from: JustKari on August 11, 2012, 02:47:58 PM
If I see him 

A month or so ago he was trying to convince us that supply and demand is a fallacy, and competition doesn't work.  He isn't very bright at all.

Quote from: taxed on August 11, 2012, 02:19:34 PM
Poor Sci Fi.  You just hate this country.  It's all over your posts.

Do you think accusing your opponent of "hating America" will get you anywhere in a middle school debate team?

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We defend the country,

Bullshit.  You pump your chest and then complain when you piss people off, after you invade their land. 

Yes; the government has no right to interfere with your private property...but it has the right to invade the private property of others, and take their land and money.   

Quoteprovide jobs,

Bush did a wonderful job at this.

Quoteand innovate.  Libs get in the way of that.

Innovate?  I keep on citing him, and I'll bring it up again; Jonas Salk, a liberal, invented the polio vaccine.  I can cite various liberals who have innovated.  Don't wax rhetoric as a substitute for a real argument.

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Case in point to why you liberals are complete gullible morons.  Please link to where she said that, or be honorable and retract your inaccurate statement. 

Just to be clear, I never argued that Palin stated Tina Fey's exact words (although she did in regard to the bailout).  But Fey was accurately portraying, in a humorous manner, what Palin actually "argued".  She stated that you could see Russia from Alaska.  The "house" addition was comedic, but irrelevant to my point.  Even if she really could see Russia from Alaska, the problem is that the statement is completely irrelevant to foreign policy.  Ergo, Sarah Palin made an argument based on a red herring.  She is either a moron or a liar.

Here is an honest request, from one debater to another, Taxed.  When you respond, please watch each of these videos back to back, and impartially. 

Palin On Foreign Policy
Palin: I Read All the News
Couric Stumps Palin With Supreme Court Question
Sarah Palin Talks Bailout Proposal
Sarah Mania! Sarah Palin's Greatest Hits

Now, I don't want you to come back screaming "liberal bias" or that Katie Couric is being an asshole.  We aren't discussing any of that here.  I want you to come back to me and defend Sarah Palin's intelligence.  Defend her various bloopers, and do so without vaguely appealing to the evil liberal media, as though they fabricated her interviews.   

Quote from: taxed on August 11, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
A month or so ago he was trying to convince us that supply and demand is a fallacy, and competition doesn't work.  He isn't very bright at all.

I love how you think that the free market must be regulated somehow equates to the free market being a "fallacy".

You're either an American loving patriot, or you're a marxist!

Never mind that human beings are treated the same way; we allow them freedom, but how would you respond to a political philosophy that stated that humans don't need to be regulated at all?  We call that "anarchy".  Are companies to be given all the rights of humans, yet none of the responsibilities?

I just love the way that Palin still drives the libtards batshit crazy.

It's sooo entertaining to watch.

Quote from: rich_t on August 11, 2012, 03:20:13 PM
I just love the way that Palin still drives the libtards batshit crazy.

It's sooo entertaining to watch.

Watch my videos, front to back.  Then, come back and present a detailed argument defending Palin's intellectual capacities.  Don't try to smokescreen the topic with assaults on Couric or the Evil Liberal Media. 

Of course, you can't.  And even if you could, you're too lazy to try. 

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 11, 2012, 03:21:56 PM
Watch my videos, front to back.  Then, come back and present a detailed argument defending Palin's intellectual capacities.  Don't try to smokescreen the topic with assaults on Couric or the Evil Liberal Media. 

Of course, you can't.  And even if you could, you're too lazy to try.

I've already seen the interview skippy.  I thought it was a hoot.

Quote from: rich_t on August 11, 2012, 03:22:54 PM
I've already seen the interview skippy.  I thought it was a hoot.

I'm waiting for a logical argument.  Preferably with "examples" and "reasons".

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 11, 2012, 03:26:51 PM
I'm waiting for a logical argument.  Preferably with "examples" and "reasons".

Logical argument about what?

Did you see me defending Palin in any way?  I was rather disappointed that she didn't finish her term as Gov. of AK.  She seemed to have been doing some good for the citizens up there (Although I am sure that you will probably disagree).

All I posted was that I love the way she drives you libtards batshit crazy.

She is definitely a GILF though.

Quote from: rich_t on August 11, 2012, 03:30:34 PM
Logical argument about what?

Did you see me defending Palin in any way?  I was rather disappointed that she didn't finish her term as Gov. of AK.  She seemed to have been doing some good for the citizens up there (Although I am sure that you will probably disagree).

All I posted was that I love the way she drives you libtards batshit crazy.

If you have no argument to refute the notion that Sarah Palin is an idiot, then you have no reason to accuse us of being driven "insane" (laughing) at her.  After all, if she really is an idiot, and you have no argument to suggest otherwise, then we are perfectly justified in mocking her and her supporters (read: mainstream conservatives)...for being idiots.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 11, 2012, 03:33:23 PM
If you have no argument to refute the notion that Sarah Palin is an idiot, then you have no reason to accuse us of being driven "insane" (laughing) at her.  After all, if she really is an idiot, and you have no argument to suggest otherwise, then we are perfectly justified in mocking her and her supporters (read: mainstream conservatives)...for being idiots.

I didn't post "insane" skippy.  I posted batshit crazy.  I really don't give a rats ass if you laugh at her.

You guys are still wrapped around your own axles about her 4 years later.  The last time I checked she isn't currently running for any office.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 11, 2012, 03:08:45 PM
Do you think accusing your opponent of "hating America" will get you anywhere in a middle school debate team?

You aren't an opponent, and aren't debating.  You are a child with no education or experience.  Don't kid yourself.

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Bullshit.  You pump your chest and then complain when you piss people off, after you invade their land.

I'm pro-military defense spending.  You aren't.  Try again.
 

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Yes; the government has no right to interfere with your private property...but it has the right to invade the private property of others, and take their land and money.   

You don't know what I do and don't support.

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Bush did a wonderful job at this.

I'd ask you to explain, but I gave up on you months ago and don't care.  I have work and business ownership experience under Clinton, Bush, and Obama.  You don't.

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Innovate?  I keep on citing him, and I'll bring it up again; Jonas Salk, a liberal, invented the polio vaccine.  I can cite various liberals who have innovated.  Don't wax rhetoric as a substitute for a real argument.

This is what I tire of you over.  Of course their have been liberal innovators.  You can't take a discussion head on, so you Clintonionally tip toe around fringe semantics to create a smokescreen.  However, they built that, versus the Hussein Obama perspective that they didn't build that.

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Just to be clear, I never argued that Palin stated Tina Fey's exact words (although she did in regard to the bailout). 

You said she could see Alaska from her house.  She never said that, yet you say she did.  Sadly, you won't retract, and will continue to parrot that she did say that.  Just sad.

Secondly, I have seen any and every Palin video on youtube.  I have spent hours watching her speeches and interviews.  She is incredible, and you never answered my challenge to give me a politician who has accomplished what she as.  Trying to make her seem unintelligent is lame when she has so much experience behind her.  I expect that from losers with no life experience, like yourself.

Quote from: rich_t on August 11, 2012, 03:36:25 PM
I didn't post "insane" skippy.  I posted batshit crazy.  I really don't give a rats ass if you laugh at her.

You guys are still wrapped around your own axles about her 4 years later.  The last time I checked she isn't currently running for any office.

Who cares?  She still has many supporters, wields respectable political influence and was considered a presidential and VP candidate.  So she's hardly as politically irrelevant as Jimmy Carter, for example, who you hypocrites love to pick on to this day.

And you've apparently conceded that she is an idiot.  So we are justified in making fun of her, and have a relevant reason to do so. 

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 11, 2012, 03:33:23 PM
If you have no argument to refute the notion that Sarah Palin is an idiot, then you have no reason to accuse us of being driven "insane" (laughing) at her.  After all, if she really is an idiot, and you have no argument to suggest otherwise, then we are perfectly justified in mocking her and her supporters (read: mainstream conservatives)...for being idiots.

You want her to be an idiot.  Unfortunately for you, she is brilliant, and has forgotten more than you will ever know.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on August 11, 2012, 03:39:47 PM
Who cares?  She still has many supporters, wields respectable political influence and was considered a presidential and VP candidate.  So she's hardly as politically irrelevant as Jimmy Carter, for example, who you hypocrites love to pick on to this day.

And you've apparently conceded that she is an idiot.  So we are justified in making fun of her, and have a relevant reason to do so.

Dude....  Knock yourself out.  It's America and you still have the First Amendment right to make fun of anyone you want.  You don't need to justify your batshit craziness to me.  I've seen all types here on the innerwebz.

Oh and BTW.  I haven't conceded anything.  Just because I don't defend her doesn't mean I think she is an idiot.

She got better grades in college than Obama did.

Quote from: taxed on August 11, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
You aren't an opponent, and aren't debating.  You are a child with no education or experience.  Don't kid yourself.

Don't kid yourself.  My competence has no relevance to your obligation to produce meaningful arguments.

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I'm pro-military defense spending.  You aren't.  Try again.

That I do not support an overbloated defense budget does not mean I do not wish to defend the States.  Try again.

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  You don't know what I do and don't support.

And you don't know shit about me.  I tire of your attempts to assume my education and experience and use your delusions as an excuse to not provide a substantive argument.

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I'd ask you to explain, but I gave up on you months ago and don't care.  I have work and business ownership experience under Clinton, Bush, and Obama.  You don't.

My bad.  I was under the impression that the recession started under Bush, but it was clearly all Carter's fault.

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This is what I tire of you over.  Of course their have been liberal innovators.  You can't take a discussion head on, so you Clintonionally tip toe around fringe semantics to create a smokescreen.  However, they built that, versus the Hussein Obama perspective that they didn't build that.

Still espousing that talking point?  Still demonstrating a criminal lack of reading comprehension?

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You said she could see Alaska from her house.  She never said that, yet you say she did.  Sadly, you won't retract, and will continue to parrot that she did say that.  Just sad.

You don't understand hyperbole.  Palin said she could see Russia from Alaska.  I added in "my house" for parody.  It has no relevance to my argument.  Once again, you deflect the impossible task of defending Palin's intelligence by playing semantics games.

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Secondly, I have seen any and every Palin video on youtube.  I have spent hours watching her speeches and interviews.

Hours?

QuoteShe is incredible, and you never answered my challenge to give me a politician who has accomplished what she as.  Trying to make her seem unintelligent is lame when she has so much experience behind her.  I expect that from losers with no life experience, like yourself.

If you've spent "hours" analyzing Palin, surely you can easily defend her various blunders on basic facts and questions in various interviews.  I'll wait for her defense.